Re: Update on Testing for Apache OpenOffice 4.0.1 (RCs) as of 09/24 - have testing gap on Linux
Hi Yu Zhen, I just tried to install a snapshot of AOO on an ubuntu12.04 machine, using your command from your attached .ods file. from the .ods file: Install: dpkg -i --force-overwrite openoffice.org*.deb Trying to use this command I get some errors. This worked for me: Install: dpkg -i --force-overwrite openoffice*.deb btw. after installing the "openoffice4.0-debian-menus_4.0-9714_all.deb" package I can't see a AOO icon/entry in the Unity Luncher (the dock on the side). On 24.09.2013 at 2:14 PM, "Yuzhen Fan" wrote: > >Hi all, > >This is the update for showstopper defect verification/impacted >area >testing, general testing and PVT: > >*1.* Bug(showstopper)verification and impacted area testing - >*Almost >done*for function bugs, all verified fixed and passed impacted area >testing >related to the bugs(with attached samples and limited variation), >except: > >122885 - Cannot reproduce it in problematic build (4.0.0), thus >does not >know if it is fixed in 4.0.1, add comment in Bugzilla > >*2.* General testing for Calc, Writer, Impress on Windows, Linux >and Mac - *In >progress*, please see details as below: > >Windows: *Complete* > >Writer - Prachi test on RC2 and couldn't find any bugs on Windows 7 >Calc - Akriti test on RC2 and find 10 issues(6 confirmed, no >critical >problems for showstopper) on windows 8 >Impress - Dick test on RC1 and all seems well and no critical bugs >were >found on Windows 7 > >Linux: *In progress with gap* > >Writer - Kay test on RC3 and no issues are found on OpenSuse 12.3 >Calc - Haven't received test result so far (any one can share your >test >result if you have done or help execute attached general testing >list on >Calc) >Impress - Started on RC3 by Edwin > >Mac: *In progress and safe* >Impress - passed on RC2 by Liu Ping >Calc -passed on RC3 by Yu Zhen >Writer - started on RC3 by Liu Ping, will complete it tomorrow >09/25 > >*3. *Build verification test on RC3 - *In progress and safe* > >Build installation on Redhat 32bit /Ubuntu 32bit /Ubuntu 64bit / >Mac / >Windows 7 / Windows 8 - passed by Liu Ping and Yu Zhen; on Redhat >64bit - >not started, Yu Zhen will complete it tomorrow 09/25 >Open three apps(Calc, Writer, Impress) successfully > >*4. *GUI PVT on RC1 compared with 4.0.0 Gold - *Complete *by Liu >Ping, no >obvious reproducible performance downgrade on RC3 > >As we are closed to the deadline(*2013-09-25*) of vote for AOO >4.0.1(RC3), >your volunteering to fill the gap on Linux testing will be >appreciated! > >Regards >Yu Zhen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>That issue is assigned to "o...@erack.de", so you don't find it >with a >search for "is" ooo. > >In general BZ allows a "real name" (display name) as well as the >account ID. For example my ID is "robw...@apache.org", but my >display name is "Rob Weir". You should be searching for the >unique >account ID. Now it makes sense. Is there a way to find out the account ID of the assignee OR search for the "real name"? I was thinking that ooo would stand for OpenOffice.org, so the report would be assigned to ALL devs. What about openoffice and issues? Are they also real user names or general assignee names to tell that the issue is assigned to all devs or a list or something in those lines. So I guess that "AOO security list" stands for secur...@openoffice.apache.org ??? On 30.09.2013 at 2:12 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 4:43 PM, >wrote: >>>Can you point me to an >>>issue where the Assignee field is equal to "ooo"? >> >> I don't get it. When I choose "is" and type ooo in the "Search >by people" section I also get NULL results. >> But when I choose contains, I get some reports which are >assigned to ooo. >> for example https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=101386 >> > >That issue is assigned to "o...@erack.de", so you don't find it >with a >search for "is" ooo. > >In general BZ allows a "real name" (display name) as well as the >account ID. For example my ID is "robw...@apache.org", but my >display name is "Rob Weir". You should be searching for the >unique >account ID. > >> What about: >>>btw. is there a difference between you executing some batch >operations on the assignee field and me doing that manually? >>>Won't the amount of emails be the same? >>>So it does not matter if the assignee-resetting is done manually >or via a batch command? >> > >Changing a few issues manually is not an issue. Changing a large >number of issues can be a problem. This usually happens via >automation since one is unlikely to manually change 10,000 issues >in a >short period of time, > >Regards, > >-Rob > >> >> On 29.09.2013 at 2:57 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>>On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, >>>wrote: >Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >incorrectly >showing up in your query? The problem is not : reports from ooo incorrectly showing up. But: reports that should showing up, are not showing up (like >>>reports from os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg) So every report containing "ooo" in the assignee's name get >>>excluded. (not exclusively ooo, as I'd like to have) Maybe I'm just telling it the wrong way but what I want to >>>achieve in my next step is to exlude bugs from the following >>>assignees: openoffice ooo AOO security list issues secur...@openoffice.apache.org and mybe others too (don't know atm) from all bug reports. At the moment I'm trying to achieve this for one assignee (ooo) >>>to prove that my search query will work. Still don't get why there are no bug reports showing up when >>>using the following things in the custom search: Assignee is equal to ooo >>> >>>I see the same thing. Why is this wrong? Isn't the most >natural >>>explaination that there are no such bugs? Can you point me to >an >>>issue where the Assignee field is equal to "ooo"? >>> >>>-Rob >>> Is this a feature to prevent people from pasting sql code or >>>such things into the field??? Or is this a BZ bug? Or am I just missing something here? On 29.09.2013 at 12:12 AM, "Rob Weir" >wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:12 PM, >wrote: >>>What exactly are you looking for? We don't have any user >with >>>ID >>>that >>>matches that regular expression, e.g., a line starting with >>>"ooo" >>>followed immediately by a line end. >> >> I was trying to use ^ as a beginning of a string and $ as the >end of a string. To tell BZ that I just want ooo and nothing >else >like os_ooo. >> >>>A simpler way to describe this query might be to do an >advanced >>>query of: >>> >>>Assignee: (contains none of the strings) openoffice, ooo, >>>issues, >>>AOO >>>security list, secur...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> The problem here is that os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg are >also excluded but I only want to exclude ooo (besides the other >like openoffice...). >> >>>It depends on the field type. But in most cases, such as >with >the >>>assignee field, it is a string comparison. >> >> So why does it not work when I just use ooo as the value? I >>>also >tried using "ooo" and 'ooo' but that did not work either. >> Is there a special way to tell BZ that ooo is a string, that >I >might have missed? >> > >Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >incorrectly >showing up in your query?
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>Can you point me to an >issue where the Assignee field is equal to "ooo"? I don't get it. When I choose "is" and type ooo in the "Search by people" section I also get NULL results. But when I choose contains, I get some reports which are assigned to ooo. for example https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=101386 What about: >btw. is there a difference between you executing some batch operations on the >assignee field and me doing that manually? >Won't the amount of emails be the same? >So it does not matter if the assignee-resetting is done manually or via a >batch command? On 29.09.2013 at 2:57 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 7:59 AM, >wrote: >>>Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >>>incorrectly >>>showing up in your query? >> >> The problem is not : reports from ooo incorrectly showing up. >> But: reports that should showing up, are not showing up (like >reports from os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg) >> So every report containing "ooo" in the assignee's name get >excluded. (not exclusively ooo, as I'd like to have) >> >> Maybe I'm just telling it the wrong way but what I want to >achieve in my next step is to exlude bugs from the following >assignees: >> >> openoffice >> ooo >> AOO security list >> issues >> secur...@openoffice.apache.org >> and mybe others too (don't know atm) >> >> from all bug reports. >> >> At the moment I'm trying to achieve this for one assignee (ooo) >to prove that my search query will work. >> >> Still don't get why there are no bug reports showing up when >using the following things in the custom search: >> Assignee is equal to ooo >> > >I see the same thing. Why is this wrong? Isn't the most natural >explaination that there are no such bugs? Can you point me to an >issue where the Assignee field is equal to "ooo"? > >-Rob > >> Is this a feature to prevent people from pasting sql code or >such things into the field??? >> Or is this a BZ bug? >> Or am I just missing something here? >> >> On 29.09.2013 at 12:12 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>>On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:12 PM, >>>wrote: >What exactly are you looking for? We don't have any user with >ID >that >matches that regular expression, e.g., a line starting with >"ooo" >followed immediately by a line end. I was trying to use ^ as a beginning of a string and $ as the >>>end of a string. To tell BZ that I just want ooo and nothing else >>>like os_ooo. >A simpler way to describe this query might be to do an advanced >query of: > >Assignee: (contains none of the strings) openoffice, ooo, >issues, >AOO >security list, secur...@openoffice.apache.org The problem here is that os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg are >>>also excluded but I only want to exclude ooo (besides the other >>>like openoffice...). >It depends on the field type. But in most cases, such as with >>>the >assignee field, it is a string comparison. So why does it not work when I just use ooo as the value? I >also >>>tried using "ooo" and 'ooo' but that did not work either. Is there a special way to tell BZ that ooo is a string, that I >>>might have missed? >>> >>>Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >>>incorrectly >>>showing up in your query? >>> >>>-Rob >> >>>To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >>>For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> > >--- >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
btw. is there a difference between you executing some batch operations on the assignee field and me doing that manually? Won't the amount of emails be the same? So it does not matter if the assignee-resetting is done manually or via a batch command? thx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >incorrectly >showing up in your query? The problem is not : reports from ooo incorrectly showing up. But: reports that should showing up, are not showing up (like reports from os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg) So every report containing "ooo" in the assignee's name get excluded. (not exclusively ooo, as I'd like to have) Maybe I'm just telling it the wrong way but what I want to achieve in my next step is to exlude bugs from the following assignees: openoffice ooo AOO security list issues secur...@openoffice.apache.org and mybe others too (don't know atm) from all bug reports. At the moment I'm trying to achieve this for one assignee (ooo) to prove that my search query will work. Still don't get why there are no bug reports showing up when using the following things in the custom search: Assignee is equal to ooo Is this a feature to prevent people from pasting sql code or such things into the field??? Or is this a BZ bug? Or am I just missing something here? On 29.09.2013 at 12:12 AM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 6:12 PM, >wrote: >>>What exactly are you looking for? We don't have any user with ID >>>that >>>matches that regular expression, e.g., a line starting with "ooo" >>>followed immediately by a line end. >> >> I was trying to use ^ as a beginning of a string and $ as the >end of a string. To tell BZ that I just want ooo and nothing else >like os_ooo. >> >>>A simpler way to describe this query might be to do an advanced >>>query of: >>> >>>Assignee: (contains none of the strings) openoffice, ooo, issues, >>>AOO >>>security list, secur...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> The problem here is that os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg are >also excluded but I only want to exclude ooo (besides the other >like openoffice...). >> >>>It depends on the field type. But in most cases, such as with >the >>>assignee field, it is a string comparison. >> >> So why does it not work when I just use ooo as the value? I also >tried using "ooo" and 'ooo' but that did not work either. >> Is there a special way to tell BZ that ooo is a string, that I >might have missed? >> > >Can you give a link to a defect report from "ooo" that is >incorrectly >showing up in your query? > >-Rob >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>What exactly are you looking for? We don't have any user with ID >that >matches that regular expression, e.g., a line starting with "ooo" >followed immediately by a line end. I was trying to use ^ as a beginning of a string and $ as the end of a string. To tell BZ that I just want ooo and nothing else like os_ooo. >A simpler way to describe this query might be to do an advanced >query of: > >Assignee: (contains none of the strings) openoffice, ooo, issues, >AOO >security list, secur...@openoffice.apache.org The problem here is that os_ooo, mst.ooo and wuyan.ooorg are also excluded but I only want to exclude ooo (besides the other like openoffice...). >It depends on the field type. But in most cases, such as with the >assignee field, it is a string comparison. So why does it not work when I just use ooo as the value? I also tried using "ooo" and 'ooo' but that did not work either. Is there a special way to tell BZ that ooo is a string, that I might have missed? thx On 27.09.2013 at 4:29 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 9:39 AM, >wrote: >>>I'd use the "Search by People" section. The first of the three >>>groups >> >> The problem is, in the final step (atm I'm just tinkering) I >want to exclude more than three assignees from the search. >> some of the assignees I'd like to exclude: >> openoffice >> ooo >> "AOO security list" >> issues >> secur...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>>If you use the advanced search options then you need to select >>>"matches regular expression" rather than "is equal to". >> >> Using ^ooo$ and "matches regular expression" does not work for >me. >> > >What exactly are you looking for? We don't have any user with ID >that >matches that regular expression, e.g., a line starting with "ooo" >followed immediately by a line end. > >A simpler way to describe this query might be to do an advanced >query of: > >Assignee: (contains none of the strings) openoffice, ooo, issues, >AOO >security list, secur...@openoffice.apache.org > >> Can you tell what "is equal to" can be used for? (only int, >double, ...?) >> > >It depends on the field type. But in most cases, such as with the >assignee field, it is a string comparison. > >Regards, > >-Rob > >>>you will end up owing Scotch to Apache Infra admins for the >>>extra >>>work they have to do to clean up the mess ;-) >> >> I see. >> >> thx >> >> On 26.09.2013 at 11:47 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>>On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:50 PM, >>>wrote: >> You can use the criterion "Time Since Assignee Touched" "is >>greater than" Did not see that thanks. >Back in July I reset the assignment for all issues that had not >changed in more than 2000 days. Today is September 26, 2013 so that means that 2000 days before >>>today would be April 5, 2008. [1] Can you please tell me why the assignee of the issue >>>https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was not >reset? Cause when looking at the History there is nothing after 2004- >06- >>>17 15:00:01 UTC (besides a comment on 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC ). >>> >>>I used the "time since assignee touched" field. It looks like in >>>this >>>case the assignee changed his email address. I don't know if >that >>>impacted the query strategy. But you can find all the issues >that >>>I >>>did reset by searching for the comment string "Reset assignee on >>>issues not touched by assignee in more than 2000 days." >>> Can you please tell me how to find bugs of a certain assignee? I want to get all bugs listed which are from the assignee ooo . When (in the Advanced Search) I select "Assignee" in "Custom >>>Search" and choose "is equal to" and then set the value to ooo it does not work. Using "is equal to any of >the >>>strings" instead of "is equal to" does not work as well -> ? >>> >>>I'd use the "Search by People" section. The first of the three >>>groups >>>there is already set up to search for assignee. One of the >search >>>options is for "contains", so you can then just enter "ooo". >>> Trying to use regular expression and typing ^ooo$ does also not >>>work. (^ooo works but then I get also things like ooo*) >>> >>>If you use the advanced search options then you need to select >>>"matches regular expression" rather than "is equal to". >>> >We all know who is active and who isn't. Did not know that. >Notifications are all-or-nothing. A BZ admin can disable all >notifications, run a batch operation, and then re-enable >notifications. But we have no easy way to notify only >assignees. What would happen if you leave the notification enabled and >then >>>reset all the assignee fields? >>> >>>It would not be pretty. It would trigger notifications to be >>>emailed >>>to the old assignee, but also everyone that commented on the >issue >>>previously, or added themselves to cc. So a rough guess, for N >>>old >>>issues you would generate 4
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>I'd use the "Search by People" section. The first of the three >groups The problem is, in the final step (atm I'm just tinkering) I want to exclude more than three assignees from the search. some of the assignees I'd like to exclude: openoffice ooo "AOO security list" issues secur...@openoffice.apache.org >If you use the advanced search options then you need to select >"matches regular expression" rather than "is equal to". Using ^ooo$ and "matches regular expression" does not work for me. Can you tell what "is equal to" can be used for? (only int, double, ...?) >you will end up owing Scotch to Apache Infra admins for the >extra >work they have to do to clean up the mess ;-) I see. thx On 26.09.2013 at 11:47 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 4:50 PM, >wrote: You can use the criterion "Time Since Assignee Touched" "is greater than" >> Did not see that thanks. >> >>>Back in July I reset the assignment for all issues that had not >>>changed in more than 2000 days. >> >> Today is September 26, 2013 so that means that 2000 days before >today would be April 5, 2008. [1] >> Can you please tell me why the assignee of the issue >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was not reset? >> Cause when looking at the History there is nothing after 2004-06- >17 15:00:01 UTC (besides a comment on 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC ). >> > >I used the "time since assignee touched" field. It looks like in >this >case the assignee changed his email address. I don't know if that >impacted the query strategy. But you can find all the issues that >I >did reset by searching for the comment string "Reset assignee on >issues not touched by assignee in more than 2000 days." > >> Can you please tell me how to find bugs of a certain assignee? >> I want to get all bugs listed which are from the assignee ooo . >> When (in the Advanced Search) I select "Assignee" in "Custom >Search" and choose "is equal to" and then set >> the value to ooo it does not work. Using "is equal to any of the >strings" instead of "is equal to" does >> not work as well -> ? >> > >I'd use the "Search by People" section. The first of the three >groups >there is already set up to search for assignee. One of the search >options is for "contains", so you can then just enter "ooo". > >> Trying to use regular expression and typing ^ooo$ does also not >work. (^ooo works but then I get also things like ooo*) >> > >If you use the advanced search options then you need to select >"matches regular expression" rather than "is equal to". > >>>We all know who is active and who isn't. >> Did not know that. >> >>>Notifications are all-or-nothing. A BZ admin can disable all >>>notifications, run a batch operation, and then re-enable >>>notifications. But we have no easy way to notify only assignees. >> >> What would happen if you leave the notification enabled and then >reset all the assignee fields? >> > >It would not be pretty. It would trigger notifications to be >emailed >to the old assignee, but also everyone that commented on the issue >previously, or added themselves to cc. So a rough guess, for N >old >issues you would generate 4x email notifications. Doing this for >a >handful, 10 or 20 issues is fine. But not for thousands. If you >do >this you will end up owing Scotch to Apache Infra admins for the >extra >work they have to do to clean up the mess ;-) > >Regards, > >-Rob > > >> thx >> >> [1]http://www.convertunits.com/dates/daysfromnow/-2000 >> >> On 26.09.2013 at 3:39 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: >>> >>>On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Regina Henschel >>> wrote: Hi, bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb: > Stop! Don't invoke the bugzilla guru. > Looks like I made it. Will invastigate farther. > That's what I use now: > http://img18.imageshack.us/i/vk57.png/ > > Are there other assignees we should exclude? > You can use the criterion "Time Since Assignee Touched" "is >>>greater than" "900d". Exclude assignee secur...@openoffice.apache.org from search. Have you count, how many issues are affected? For example, with 900d I get 322 bugs. With >360d and restriction to 99000>>get 70 bugs, which is 7%. So expand to more than 12 issues gives perhaps >>>about 8000 matches. Other complex queries I have tried need so long, that >I >>>have not wait. I guess, that a direct SQL search in the data base can >use >>>more efficient search statements than using the UI. I like, that former, inactive assignees are reset to the new >>>default. But such bulk change needs, that the general notifications are >>>suppressed. I don't know, whether it is possible to only inform the >assignees. >>>So please wait till it is morning for Rob and he has a change to read >this. >>> >>>Notifications are all-or-nothing. A BZ admin can disable all >>>notifications, run a batch operation, an
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>> You can use the criterion "Time Since Assignee Touched" "is >>greater than" Did not see that thanks. >Back in July I reset the assignment for all issues that had not >changed in more than 2000 days. Today is September 26, 2013 so that means that 2000 days before today would be April 5, 2008. [1] Can you please tell me why the assignee of the issue https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was not reset? Cause when looking at the History there is nothing after 2004-06-17 15:00:01 UTC (besides a comment on 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC ). Can you please tell me how to find bugs of a certain assignee? I want to get all bugs listed which are from the assignee ooo . When (in the Advanced Search) I select "Assignee" in "Custom Search" and choose "is equal to" and then set the value to ooo it does not work. Using "is equal to any of the strings" instead of "is equal to" does not work as well -> ? Trying to use regular expression and typing ^ooo$ does also not work. (^ooo works but then I get also things like ooo*) >We all know who is active and who isn't. Did not know that. >Notifications are all-or-nothing. A BZ admin can disable all >notifications, run a batch operation, and then re-enable >notifications. But we have no easy way to notify only assignees. What would happen if you leave the notification enabled and then reset all the assignee fields? thx [1]http://www.convertunits.com/dates/daysfromnow/-2000 On 26.09.2013 at 3:39 PM, "Rob Weir" wrote: > >On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Regina Henschel > wrote: >> Hi, >> >> bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb: >> >>> Stop! Don't invoke the bugzilla guru. >>> Looks like I made it. Will invastigate farther. >>> That's what I use now: >>> http://img18.imageshack.us/i/vk57.png/ >>> >>> Are there other assignees we should exclude? >>> >> >> You can use the criterion "Time Since Assignee Touched" "is >greater than" >> "900d". >> >> Exclude assignee secur...@openoffice.apache.org from search. >> >> Have you count, how many issues are affected? For example, with >>900d I get >> 322 bugs. With >360d and restriction to 99000get 70 bugs, >> which is 7%. So expand to more than 12 issues gives perhaps >about 8000 >> matches. Other complex queries I have tried need so long, that I >have not >> wait. I guess, that a direct SQL search in the data base can use >more >> efficient search statements than using the UI. >> >> I like, that former, inactive assignees are reset to the new >default. But >> such bulk change needs, that the general notifications are >suppressed. I >> don't know, whether it is possible to only inform the assignees. >So please >> wait till it is morning for Rob and he has a change to read this. >> > >Notifications are all-or-nothing. A BZ admin can disable all >notifications, run a batch operation, and then re-enable >notifications. But we have no easy way to notify only assignees. > >Back in July I reset the assignment for all issues that had not >changed in more than 2000 days. 543 issues were reset in that >action. I've also done other resets for issues assigned to defunct >openoffice.org, novell.com, sun.com and oracle.com email addresses. > >There may be others that could be reset as well, but I'm not sure >it >really helps anything. As a practical matter, no active developer >will avoid fixing an issue just because it is assigned to someone >else >who is not longer active. We all know who is active and who isn't. >And even if we did reset everything to the default, and only had >currently active developers make self-assignments, this information >would be out of date again within a year. Unless someone wants to >monitor and remind developers and testers on an ongoing basis, the >database reverts to its natural chaotic state. > >Things that need constant reminding: > >1) Unconfirmed issues need to be tested and either confirmed or >closed > >2) Unconfirmed issues where we are waiting for more information >from >the user -- if the user does not respond we need to close the issue > >3) Issues that are targetted to be fixed in a given release but are >not -- these need to have their target set back to the default > >4) Issues that are marked as fixed in a release need to be tested >and >marked as resolved if they are actually fixed. > >As a BZ Admin I can help get us to a "clean slate" on some of these >items, but we really need someone (or a group of volunteers) to >take >the lead on maintaining the quality of the BZ issues by >reminding/nagging the rest of us to keep our issues up to date. >There are a lot of report and charting options in BZ, but it >requires >some knowledge to make the most of them.I'm happy to help get >someone started on this if anyone is interested. > >Regards, > >-Rob > >--- >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
FALL, I just tried to exclude some assignees like "ooo" but it does not work for me. When I try to search just for bugs with "ooo" as the assignee I get no bugs. But there are bugs with this assignee like: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117726 I tried in "Custom Search" to select "Assignee" and choose "is equal to" and then setting the value to ooo but it does not work. Using "is equal to any of the strings" instead of "is equal to" doesn not work as well -> ? On 25.09.2013 at 12:24 PM, "janI" wrote: > >On Sep 25, 2013 11:28 AM, wrote: >> >> Stop! Don't invoke the bugzilla guru. >> Looks like I made it. Will invastigate farther. >> That's what I use now: >> http://img18.imageshack.us/i/vk57.png/ >> >> Are there other assignees we should exclude? > >congrats that looks very correct and complete to me. Then its just >manual >work to unassign. > >rgds >jan >> >> >> >> On 25.09.2013 at 10:58 AM, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote: >> > >> >>...Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru >> >Can you tell me how to invoke a bugzilla guru? Or is he already >> >seeing this and just has too much work to do? >> > >> >>I think you need to use "search by change history". >> >But in "search by change history" one only can search for >changes >> >(at least that's what I was thinking). >> >But I want those issues with no changes. >> > >> > >> >On 24.09.2013 at 7:06 PM, "janI" wrote: >> >> >> >>On 24 September 2013 16:37, wrote: >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >last modified older and a year and assigned to a person) >> >>> ... >> >>> >...if you did the unassignment, >> >>> >> >>> Well I can not promise to do this but at least I could try. >> >>> So trying to achieve this behaviour I tried the Advanced >Search >> >>on >> >>> bugzilla and it did not work. >> >>> How to get the "was modified" in the search and what does >that >> >>exactly >> >>> mean? -> new comment, change of the statusj??? >> >>> this is my attempt (bugzilla using the advanced search >without >> >>beeing >> >>> logged in): >> >>> http://img850.imageshack.us/i/a5vl.png/ >> >>> >> >> >> >>Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru, I am just a user, so he can >> >>hopefully >> >>give you more precise ideas. >> >> >> >>"was modified" is in my opinion is new comment and/or status. >> >>Without >> >>actually having tried it, I think you need to use "search by >> >change >> >>history". >> >> >> >>rgds >> >>jan I. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On 24.09.2013 at 1:14 PM, "janI" wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >On 24 September 2013 12:36, >wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Thanks. >> >>> >> Haven't seen that. >> >>> >> Can you tell me what "...for issues that had not been >worked >> >>on >> >>> >for 6 >> >>> >> month..." means? >> >>> >> >> >>> > >> >>> >Sorry I wrote 6 month it is actually 1year (as written in >the >> >>> >comments) >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> Cause for example the bug >> >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was >> >>reported >> >>> >> 2003-10-01 01:18 UTC by ulim and the last post/comment was >> >>from >> >>> >"mkca >> >>> >> 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC" and it was still assigned to >Oliver >> >>> >Specht on >> >>> >> ??.??.2013. (Now, thanks to some friendly people, it is >> >marked >> >>> >as a >> >>> >> duplicate and there is a "duplicate comment") >> >>> >> Does the mechanism only work for new bugs or is there >> >>something >> >>> >I missed? >> >>> >> >> >>> >It is not a mechanism, but a simply filter (last modified >and >> >>> >assigned). >> >>> > >> >>> >Those issues hit by the filter (last modified older and a >year >> >>and >> >>> >assigned >> >>> >to a person), should manually be unassigned without asking. >The >> >>> >assigned >> >>> >person automatically gets a mail about the change. >> >>> > >> >>> >The idea is/was to do this every now and then to "release" >> >>issues >> >>> >assigned >> >>> >to a person that does not work on it anymore, so we all know >> >it >> >>is >> >>> >free to >> >>> >be worked on. >> >>> > >> >>> >It would be cool if you did the unassignment, so we can get >an >> >>> >overview of >> >>> >how many issues are actually being worked on. >> >>> > >> >>> >rgds >> >>> >jan I. >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> On 23.09.2013 at 7:46 PM, "janI" wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >Please have a look at >> >>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122035that >bug >> >>> >deals >> >>> >> >with this specific issue. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >rgds >> >>> >> >jan I. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >On 23 September 2013 18:54, janI wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On 23 September 2013 16:19, Raphael Bircher >> >> >> >>> >> >wrote: >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Hello bugreporter >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Am 23.09.13 12:45, schrieb bugreporte...@hushmail.com: >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Can someone tell me if it's a good idea t
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
Stop! Don't invoke the bugzilla guru. Looks like I made it. Will invastigate farther. That's what I use now: http://img18.imageshack.us/i/vk57.png/ Are there other assignees we should exclude? On 25.09.2013 at 10:58 AM, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote: > >>...Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru >Can you tell me how to invoke a bugzilla guru? Or is he already >seeing this and just has too much work to do? > >>I think you need to use "search by change history". >But in "search by change history" one only can search for changes >(at least that's what I was thinking). >But I want those issues with no changes. > > >On 24.09.2013 at 7:06 PM, "janI" wrote: >> >>On 24 September 2013 16:37, wrote: >> >>> >>> >last modified older and a year and assigned to a person) >>> ... >>> >...if you did the unassignment, >>> >>> Well I can not promise to do this but at least I could try. >>> So trying to achieve this behaviour I tried the Advanced Search >>on >>> bugzilla and it did not work. >>> How to get the "was modified" in the search and what does that >>exactly >>> mean? -> new comment, change of the statusj??? >>> this is my attempt (bugzilla using the advanced search without >>beeing >>> logged in): >>> http://img850.imageshack.us/i/a5vl.png/ >>> >> >>Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru, I am just a user, so he can >>hopefully >>give you more precise ideas. >> >>"was modified" is in my opinion is new comment and/or status. >>Without >>actually having tried it, I think you need to use "search by >change >>history". >> >>rgds >>jan I. >> >> >>> >>> >>> On 24.09.2013 at 1:14 PM, "janI" wrote: >>> > >>> >On 24 September 2013 12:36, wrote: >>> > >>> >> Thanks. >>> >> Haven't seen that. >>> >> Can you tell me what "...for issues that had not been worked >>on >>> >for 6 >>> >> month..." means? >>> >> >>> > >>> >Sorry I wrote 6 month it is actually 1year (as written in the >>> >comments) >>> > >>> > >>> >> Cause for example the bug >>> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was >>reported >>> >> 2003-10-01 01:18 UTC by ulim and the last post/comment was >>from >>> >"mkca >>> >> 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC" and it was still assigned to Oliver >>> >Specht on >>> >> ??.??.2013. (Now, thanks to some friendly people, it is >marked >>> >as a >>> >> duplicate and there is a "duplicate comment") >>> >> Does the mechanism only work for new bugs or is there >>something >>> >I missed? >>> >> >>> >It is not a mechanism, but a simply filter (last modified and >>> >assigned). >>> > >>> >Those issues hit by the filter (last modified older and a year >>and >>> >assigned >>> >to a person), should manually be unassigned without asking. The >>> >assigned >>> >person automatically gets a mail about the change. >>> > >>> >The idea is/was to do this every now and then to "release" >>issues >>> >assigned >>> >to a person that does not work on it anymore, so we all know >it >>is >>> >free to >>> >be worked on. >>> > >>> >It would be cool if you did the unassignment, so we can get an >>> >overview of >>> >how many issues are actually being worked on. >>> > >>> >rgds >>> >jan I. >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> On 23.09.2013 at 7:46 PM, "janI" wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >Please have a look at >>> >> >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122035that bug >>> >deals >>> >> >with this specific issue. >>> >> > >>> >> >rgds >>> >> >jan I. >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> >On 23 September 2013 18:54, janI wrote: >>> >> > >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> On 23 September 2013 16:19, Raphael Bircher >> >>> >> >wrote: >>> >> >> >>> >> >>> Hello bugreporter >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> Am 23.09.13 12:45, schrieb bugreporte...@hushmail.com: >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. >>> >> >>> >> Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to find out >which >>> >devs >>> >> >do not >>> >> work on AOO and are still assigned to bugs, and remove >>them >>> >> >from the bugs >>> >> "Assigned To:" >>> >> field? >>> >> >>> >> >>> This is a good idea. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> I was thinking of something like this: >>> >> #1 get all emailaddresses from the devs which are >>assigned >>> >to >>> >> >bugs from >>> >> the bugzilla data base >>> >> #2 compare the list with the people/emailadresses which >>are >>> >> >subscribed >>> >> to the dev mailing list >>> >> >>> >> >>> This is not so a good idea. Same people has different e- >>mail >>> >> >adress on >>> >> >>> bugzilla. I use the apache adress at bugzilla and my >>private >>> >at >>> >> >the mailing >>> >> >>> list. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >>> There are a load people assinged to formar Oracle/SUN >>> >employee. >>> >> >If you >>> >> >>> are not sure about a name you can ask him/her. >>> >> >>> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> We discussed this theme about 3 month ago, and agreed to >>reset >>> >> >"assigned >>> >> >> to" for issues that had not been worked on for 6 month. >Rob >>> >> >talked about >>> >> >> doing it at that
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>...Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru Can you tell me how to invoke a bugzilla guru? Or is he already seeing this and just has too much work to do? >I think you need to use "search by change history". But in "search by change history" one only can search for changes (at least that's what I was thinking). But I want those issues with no changes. On 24.09.2013 at 7:06 PM, "janI" wrote: > >On 24 September 2013 16:37, wrote: > >> >> >last modified older and a year and assigned to a person) >> ... >> >...if you did the unassignment, >> >> Well I can not promise to do this but at least I could try. >> So trying to achieve this behaviour I tried the Advanced Search >on >> bugzilla and it did not work. >> How to get the "was modified" in the search and what does that >exactly >> mean? -> new comment, change of the statusj??? >> this is my attempt (bugzilla using the advanced search without >beeing >> logged in): >> http://img850.imageshack.us/i/a5vl.png/ >> > >Rob weir is the real bugzilla guru, I am just a user, so he can >hopefully >give you more precise ideas. > >"was modified" is in my opinion is new comment and/or status. >Without >actually having tried it, I think you need to use "search by change >history". > >rgds >jan I. > > >> >> >> On 24.09.2013 at 1:14 PM, "janI" wrote: >> > >> >On 24 September 2013 12:36, wrote: >> > >> >> Thanks. >> >> Haven't seen that. >> >> Can you tell me what "...for issues that had not been worked >on >> >for 6 >> >> month..." means? >> >> >> > >> >Sorry I wrote 6 month it is actually 1year (as written in the >> >comments) >> > >> > >> >> Cause for example the bug >> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was >reported >> >> 2003-10-01 01:18 UTC by ulim and the last post/comment was >from >> >"mkca >> >> 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC" and it was still assigned to Oliver >> >Specht on >> >> ??.??.2013. (Now, thanks to some friendly people, it is marked >> >as a >> >> duplicate and there is a "duplicate comment") >> >> Does the mechanism only work for new bugs or is there >something >> >I missed? >> >> >> >It is not a mechanism, but a simply filter (last modified and >> >assigned). >> > >> >Those issues hit by the filter (last modified older and a year >and >> >assigned >> >to a person), should manually be unassigned without asking. The >> >assigned >> >person automatically gets a mail about the change. >> > >> >The idea is/was to do this every now and then to "release" >issues >> >assigned >> >to a person that does not work on it anymore, so we all know it >is >> >free to >> >be worked on. >> > >> >It would be cool if you did the unassignment, so we can get an >> >overview of >> >how many issues are actually being worked on. >> > >> >rgds >> >jan I. >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23.09.2013 at 7:46 PM, "janI" wrote: >> >> > >> >> >Please have a look at >> >> >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122035that bug >> >deals >> >> >with this specific issue. >> >> > >> >> >rgds >> >> >jan I. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >On 23 September 2013 18:54, janI wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 September 2013 16:19, Raphael Bircher > >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Hello bugreporter >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Am 23.09.13 12:45, schrieb bugreporte...@hushmail.com: >> >> >>> >> >> >>> That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. >> >> >> >> Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to find out which >> >devs >> >> >do not >> >> work on AOO and are still assigned to bugs, and remove >them >> >> >from the bugs >> >> "Assigned To:" >> >> field? >> >> >> >> >>> This is a good idea. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> I was thinking of something like this: >> >> #1 get all emailaddresses from the devs which are >assigned >> >to >> >> >bugs from >> >> the bugzilla data base >> >> #2 compare the list with the people/emailadresses which >are >> >> >subscribed >> >> to the dev mailing list >> >> >> >> >>> This is not so a good idea. Same people has different e- >mail >> >> >adress on >> >> >>> bugzilla. I use the apache adress at bugzilla and my >private >> >at >> >> >the mailing >> >> >>> list. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> There are a load people assinged to formar Oracle/SUN >> >employee. >> >> >If you >> >> >>> are not sure about a name you can ask him/her. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> We discussed this theme about 3 month ago, and agreed to >reset >> >> >"assigned >> >> >> to" for issues that had not been worked on for 6 month. Rob >> >> >talked about >> >> >> doing it at that time. >> >> >> >> >> >> I think it is better to have a generic reset mechanism, >than >> >to >> >> >look after >> >> >> the individual names. >> >> >> >> >> >> But thanks for suggesting the work. >> >> >> >> >> >> rgds >> >> >> jan I. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Thanks for the work >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Greetings Raphael >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> --**-- >--- >> >- >>
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>last modified older and a year and assigned to a person) ... >...if you did the unassignment, Well I can not promise to do this but at least I could try. So trying to achieve this behaviour I tried the Advanced Search on bugzilla and it did not work. How to get the "was modified" in the search and what does that exactly mean? -> new comment, change of the statusj??? this is my attempt (bugzilla using the advanced search without beeing logged in): http://img850.imageshack.us/i/a5vl.png/ On 24.09.2013 at 1:14 PM, "janI" wrote: > >On 24 September 2013 12:36, wrote: > >> Thanks. >> Haven't seen that. >> Can you tell me what "...for issues that had not been worked on >for 6 >> month..." means? >> > >Sorry I wrote 6 month it is actually 1year (as written in the >comments) > > >> Cause for example the bug >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was reported >> 2003-10-01 01:18 UTC by ulim and the last post/comment was from >"mkca >> 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC" and it was still assigned to Oliver >Specht on >> ??.??.2013. (Now, thanks to some friendly people, it is marked >as a >> duplicate and there is a "duplicate comment") >> Does the mechanism only work for new bugs or is there something >I missed? >> >It is not a mechanism, but a simply filter (last modified and >assigned). > >Those issues hit by the filter (last modified older and a year and >assigned >to a person), should manually be unassigned without asking. The >assigned >person automatically gets a mail about the change. > >The idea is/was to do this every now and then to "release" issues >assigned >to a person that does not work on it anymore, so we all know it is >free to >be worked on. > >It would be cool if you did the unassignment, so we can get an >overview of >how many issues are actually being worked on. > >rgds >jan I. > > >> >> >> On 23.09.2013 at 7:46 PM, "janI" wrote: >> > >> >Please have a look at >> >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122035that bug >deals >> >with this specific issue. >> > >> >rgds >> >jan I. >> > >> > >> > >> >On 23 September 2013 18:54, janI wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On 23 September 2013 16:19, Raphael Bircher >> >wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hello bugreporter >> >>> >> >>> Am 23.09.13 12:45, schrieb bugreporte...@hushmail.com: >> >>> >> >>> That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. >> >> Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to find out which >devs >> >do not >> work on AOO and are still assigned to bugs, and remove them >> >from the bugs >> "Assigned To:" >> field? >> >> >>> This is a good idea. >> >>> >> >>> I was thinking of something like this: >> #1 get all emailaddresses from the devs which are assigned >to >> >bugs from >> the bugzilla data base >> #2 compare the list with the people/emailadresses which are >> >subscribed >> to the dev mailing list >> >> >>> This is not so a good idea. Same people has different e-mail >> >adress on >> >>> bugzilla. I use the apache adress at bugzilla and my private >at >> >the mailing >> >>> list. >> >>> >> >>> There are a load people assinged to formar Oracle/SUN >employee. >> >If you >> >>> are not sure about a name you can ask him/her. >> >>> >> >> >> >> We discussed this theme about 3 month ago, and agreed to reset >> >"assigned >> >> to" for issues that had not been worked on for 6 month. Rob >> >talked about >> >> doing it at that time. >> >> >> >> I think it is better to have a generic reset mechanism, than >to >> >look after >> >> the individual names. >> >> >> >> But thanks for suggesting the work. >> >> >> >> rgds >> >> jan I. >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Thanks for the work >> >>> >> >>> Greetings Raphael >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --**- >- >> >**- >> >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev- >> >unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.org> >unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> >> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev- >h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >> - > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
Thanks. Haven't seen that. Can you tell me what "...for issues that had not been worked on for 6 month..." means? Cause for example the bug https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20525 was reported 2003-10-01 01:18 UTC by ulim and the last post/comment was from "mkca 2007-05-03 12:24:50 UTC" and it was still assigned to Oliver Specht on ??.??.2013. (Now, thanks to some friendly people, it is marked as a duplicate and there is a "duplicate comment") Does the mechanism only work for new bugs or is there something I missed? On 23.09.2013 at 7:46 PM, "janI" wrote: > >Please have a look at >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122035that bug deals >with this specific issue. > >rgds >jan I. > > > >On 23 September 2013 18:54, janI wrote: > >> >> >> >> On 23 September 2013 16:19, Raphael Bircher >wrote: >> >>> Hello bugreporter >>> >>> Am 23.09.13 12:45, schrieb bugreporte...@hushmail.com: >>> >>> That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to find out which devs >do not work on AOO and are still assigned to bugs, and remove them >from the bugs "Assigned To:" field? >>> This is a good idea. >>> >>> I was thinking of something like this: #1 get all emailaddresses from the devs which are assigned to >bugs from the bugzilla data base #2 compare the list with the people/emailadresses which are >subscribed to the dev mailing list >>> This is not so a good idea. Same people has different e-mail >adress on >>> bugzilla. I use the apache adress at bugzilla and my private at >the mailing >>> list. >>> >>> There are a load people assinged to formar Oracle/SUN employee. >If you >>> are not sure about a name you can ask him/her. >>> >> >> We discussed this theme about 3 month ago, and agreed to reset >"assigned >> to" for issues that had not been worked on for 6 month. Rob >talked about >> doing it at that time. >> >> I think it is better to have a generic reset mechanism, than to >look after >> the individual names. >> >> But thanks for suggesting the work. >> >> rgds >> jan I. >> >> >>> >>> Thanks for the work >>> >>> Greetings Raphael >>> >>> >>> >>> --**-- >**- >>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev- >unsubscribe@openoffice.**apache.orgunsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org> >>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org >>> >>> >> - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
That's awesome Andrea, many thanks. Can someone tell me if it's a good idea to find out which devs do not work on AOO and are still assigned to bugs, and remove them from the bugs "Assigned To:" field? I was thinking of something like this: #1 get all emailaddresses from the devs which are assigned to bugs from the bugzilla data base #2 compare the list with the people/emailadresses which are subscribed to the dev mailing list #2 if a dev is assigned to a bug but not subscribed to the dev mailing list -> send him/her a mail and tell that he/she will be removed from the bug in about three weeks if we do not get a mail from them. #3 after three weeks send another mail to them and telling them that next day they will be removed from the bug I think this will not get ALL devs cause there may be some devs not subscribed to the dev list and still working on AOO??? On 21.09.2013 at 5:33 PM, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote: > >On 13/09/2013 bugreporter99 wrote: >> I tried to change that field when logged in (yes, it's a >different userid). >> Does the issue has be reported by me to be able to change the >fields? > >In general it shouldn't, and if you need permissions you can >obtain them >by simply asking on the QA list (or here) that your Bugzilla user >is >given higher privileges. > >In this case, I updated >https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=107063 to reflect >this >discussion. > >Regards, > Andrea. > >--- >-- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>You have to be logged in for doing that. There is no userid >"bugreporter99" and there are no issues mentioning this userid >[1]. What >is your userid in AOO's bugzilla? I tried to change that field when logged in (yes, it's a different userid). Does the issue has be reported by me to be able to change the fields? >He isn't active in the AOO community. So bugs assigned to devs that are not active anymore are still assigned to them? - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
Can someone please tell me how to change the "Latest Confirmation on:" field in a bug report on bugzilla? Don't get me wrong but can someone also tell me if Oliver Specht is still working on OpenOffice cause the first bug is from 2003? (don't know if there is a chance that on the way OO->Oracle->Apache the list of active developers is/was updated) thx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: bug 107063 (needs update)
>> I marked the duplicate issues you suggested. Please log in and >update the >> version on your own if you would. If there is some problem you >can't do >> this, please let us know. thanks >For re-confirming issues such as 107063 we have the field "latest >confirmation on". The version field itself should record when a >bug >first appeared. Ok I see the "Latest Confirmation on:" field but I'm too stupid to change it (no thing such a drop-down box). >Also we there is no release of AOO 4.0.1 yet, there are only >snapshots >on the way to 4.0.1 that use "4.0.1" in various strings for >technical >reasons. So recording a bug against a pre-release should only be >against >e.g. AOO401-dev but not against the target version. yes it was a snapshot thx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
bug 107063 (needs update)
Can someone please set the bugs: 26331 20525 as duplicate of: 107063 And change the "Version" of 107063 to 4.0.1. I tested this on Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe on XP and this bug still occurs. (tested with frames of images and tables) thx - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: [IDEA] "Back to School with AOO" blog post
>On 06.08.2013 at 5:10 PM, "sebb" wrote:>On 6 August 2013 >15:56, Donald Whytock wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: >> >>> On 6 August 2013 15:40, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> > It is that time of year now: back to school. >>> > >>> > I wonder if this could make a good blog post. Of course, AOO being >>> > free is core part of the story. But even better would be if we had a >>> > "top 10" list of ways in which AOO is great for school. >>> > >>> >>> >>> 1. Use the same software at home and at school without worrying about >>> licensing >>> 2. Participate in the AOO community and provide useful things for others >>> while you learn >>> 3. Fix broken Word documents >>> 4. Provide choice and promote transferrable skills by using more than one >>> type of tool >>> 5. Get a qualification referenced to the European Qualifications Framework >>> >> >> 6. Fits nicely in a small/low income community's school budget. >7. Work in multiple languages. 8. use it on your llinux/win/mac machine 9. having all you need for the school in one suit/program (cause other projects which has to make money trying to split up the programs like one program for writing onother for drawing to make more money) 10. possible to open other formats like .doc (maybe note that it does not work perfect because it's a propritary/closed format) but works mostly maybe also note some features that are new to 4.0, like the optional side bar which makes the work easier and faster. If you also want to mention that there are still some things missing, here are my most wanted/missing featured I still remember from shool: (of course there are more things like Inserting a bibliographic reference int a frame (e.g. image frame) (->will show up allways as [0])) #create a 3d surface chart (surface plots) #save the annotations in impress (don*t know if these are still missing) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Drawing testing of AOO4 snapshot
Hi Yu Zhen, seems like my first email wasn't delivered (does not appear in the mailinglist), here is the second attempt. Here are my results from some testing on Drawing. Should I include everything into the wiki page? http://pastebin.com/ZnkTFKJc regards
Re: Call for volunteers to do exploration test on Base / Drawing and write test cases for Base / Drawing:
HI Yu Zhen, what I could do is: #spending about a day playing with draw #using winXP (or if preferred 7) #LO/older version of AOO may be installed on that machine #get a precompiled version (last snapshot) #some instructions what to test or I can just do some random stuff where to get the latest snapshot?? what I used before does not work: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets where I also looked: http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/ -> http://www.openoffice.org/development/releases/dev_index.html -> no AOO 4 snapshot http://www.openoffice.org/development/ -> http://download.openoffice.org/next -> no AOO 4 snapshot this is what I found: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets Can we have a link to the latest snapshot on the Download page: http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html under the download button where it says: Get all platforms, languages, language packs | Source Code tarballs and SDK | maybe add snapshots or versions for testing or dev versions or such and here: http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html or maybe it's better (but takes longer to find) here: http://openoffice.apache.org/downloads.html On 25.06.2013 at 2:32 PM, "Yuzhen Fan" wrote:Hi All, Here is the update about exploration test on Base: Today, I test Base on Win7, focus on creating a new database, connecting existing DB2 database via JDBC, and also do some basic operations on table and query. One crash issue is exposed when delete tables in query. I have recorded 5 related test scenarios and the defect found in report web links: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/AOO40_Database We now need your support on exploration test on Base and Drawing on Redhat, Mac and Windows, if you have interest and time, please don't hesitate to offering help! Regards, Yu Zhen On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Yuzhen Fan wrote: > Hi All, > > This is call for volunteers to do exploration test on Base / Drawing and > write test cases for Base / Drawing: > > 1. About exploration test on Base and Drawing, please could volunteers > report in QA mail group on (1) covered platform/build/database; (2) tested > scenario/steps; (3) test result/defect found, by updating these two web > links: http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/AOO40_Database for Base, and > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/AOO40_Drawing for Drawing. > > Reference: Base test matrix http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Tescase > > 2. About writing test cases for Base, I have completed to create > hierarchies of test suites in TestLink based on the finalized test matrix > http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/QA/Tescase. Please could volunteers > navigate the test suite tree view in the Test Specification (Test Project > is Apache OpenOffice testproject), and let's following below process to > organize test case writing: > > 1) Volunteers provide their TestLink ID and list of their preferred test > suites to Yu Zhen Fan (fanyuz...@gmail.com) (Currently I have Anil > Kumar's TestLink ID and confirmation to write test cases) > 2) Yu Zhen specifies the test suites' assignment to the individual > volunteer > 3) Volunteers write test cases in the assigned test suites, in TestLink. > For test cases related to connectivity testing, please attach the "live" > test DB(s) and provide steps to set up test environment in "Preconditions". > It's encouraged test cases' author to test his/her test cases in execution > stage. > > 3. I will work with Liu Ping Tan on test matrix for Drawing later this > week, if you have interest on Drawing test case writing, please let me > know, I will put you in the pipeline. > > > Regards, > Yu Zhen >
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
hey, >In Ellipsoid and Rectangular (play with it) the center of the gradient >gets to a line. There is no linear transformation to map this to SVG >gradients. Anyways there is no mapping to Rectangluar at all. Was trying to cheat but seems not to work the way I want it to look like. For the rectangular gradient I tried to use three instead of two colors, so to imitate a black to white gradient(the old school way) I just used a black to white to black gradient (SVGgradient). Just kind of "mirror" the colors at the middle line/color. http://i39.tinypic.com/302ctw9.png the ellepsoid es even harder to imitate On 12.06.2013 at 11:10 AM, "Armin Le Grand" wrote:Hi bugreporter99, On 11.06.2013 17:50, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi, > >> Ah, I see. Just curious; how did you find out, it's not really >> advertized that they use our code...? > ... >> Did you read >> (https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating), >> btw...? > I think that's the same page the person posted to the forum I got the > information from (actually did not read the article). > IIRC I heard it from here: > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/293#comment-22501 > (comment #26) Ah okay. They should at least tell people that it's not useful to write tasks for LO for an AOO-feature. I will not even see them there, I am not working at/for/on LO. > > >...(problem is the non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and >> Rectangular ones, another problem is that you can select the number > of >> steps in AOO, say just eight and get useful nice effects.) > What do you mean by "non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and > Rectangular" ? > is "on-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid " an ellipse with some > bumps??? In Ellipsoid and Rectangular (play with it) the center of the gradient gets to a line. There is no linear transformation to map this to SVG gradients. Anyways there is no mapping to Rectangluar at all. > >> ...you can select the number of steps in AOO > Which steps do you mean? > gradient steps?? Yes. In the fill attributes you can set the step cout to e.g. user-defined 3 steps. This is useful in arious cases, but will also not map to SVG where this is not possible. > > regards. > > On 10.06.2013 at 10:36 AM, "Armin Le Grand" wrote:Hi bugreporter99, > [deletd some older stuff here] -- ALG - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
Hi, >Ah, I see. Just curious; how did you find out, it's not really >advertized that they use our code...? ... >Did you read >(https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating), >btw...? I think that's the same page the person posted to the forum I got the information from (actually did not read the article). IIRC I heard it from here: http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/293#comment-22501 (comment #26) >...(problem is the non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and >Rectangular ones, another problem is that you can select the number of >steps in AOO, say just eight and get useful nice effects.) What do you mean by "non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and Rectangular" ? is "on-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid " an ellipse with some bumps??? >...you can select the number of steps in AOO Which steps do you mean? gradient steps?? regards. On 10.06.2013 at 10:36 AM, "Armin Le Grand" wrote:Hi bugreporter99, On 07.06.2013 18:24, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi Armin, > > I reported the bugs to the LO bugzilla. After finding out that AOO > sarted the svg import stuff and LO adopted/is adopting it I started to > look at AOO. Ah, I see. Just curious; how did you find out, it's not really advertized that they use our code...? > So the current bugs I found are somewhere here: > https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?component=Drawing&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on= > starting at 64457 and ending at about 64550 (so somewhere in between > this to bug IDs I think) I cannot work on LO tasks, please consider to commit these in AOO, too. Of course after having a look which still exist, I aloready fixed some, working together with another guy who also found out who really is behind SVG import and did it... Did you read (https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/entry/good_news_libreoffice_is_integrating), btw...? >> There is an interactive gradient edit mode, have you seen it? It's >> a little bit hidden... > Thanks for the hint will look at this one. > Because I thought that the old gradient stuff can be also done in the > svg way I thought of replacing the old gradient with > the new one. For example the Border value could be also done with the > hight and width of the gradient in the svg way (at least that's what I > thought). But if that's not possible I guess we would have to have > Gradient and SVGGradient (was thinking like Gradient + SVGGradient == > newawesomeAOOgradient). Something like that. OTOH you made me start again thinking about if it's possible somehoy, baybe together with the possible UserTransformation (problem is the non-linear (irregular) form of the Ellipsoid and Rectangular ones, another problem is that you can select the number of steps in AOO, say just eight and get useful nice effects.) Sincerely, Armin > > regards. > > On 07.06.2013 at 10:16 AM, "Armin Le Grand" wrote:Hi bugreporter99, > > I see no changes to the old gradient sizes; that's because these are > historically grown and should not be touched at all. They do not have > own pos/size or whatever attributes, they are just using the area they > > are set at. Historically (a lot has changed since then, but to make > clear why it is as it is): > > - The area wich is maximally covered (and needs to be painted) is > calculated in pixels (no double precision) > - This leads to a boundrect > - The to be filled geometry is set as mask > - Number of steps (as Integer) is calculated > - For left/R/T/B an integer add is calculyted to shrink that rect > (radial: same, ellipse: different) > - In a loop for n steps the rectangle is shrunk by these values, but > there were 'if's to not let it overlap itself > - The rectangle is filled with a calculated color with rect or ellipse > > This cannot even be direclty mapped to a transformation (mix of > local/discrete coordinate system) and depends on object rotation (!). > It > was a lot of work to get this mapped to transformations to 'emulate' > it > in primitive rendering at all (argh), but it works now. Today a > primitive is used, all is in double precision. Still, the basic > principle from the older days has to be used (the boundrect in world > coordinates) to make it look the same, you do not want older loaded > files to look diffeent, do you? > > BTW: There is an interactive gradient edit mode, have you seen it? > It's > a little bit hidden. Open draw, create a shape with gradient, in the > drawing toolber (normally at the bottom) there is a 'effects' DropDown > > (normally on rotation). Drop it down (or undock
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
Hi Armin, I reported the bugs to the LO bugzilla. After finding out that AOO sarted the svg import stuff and LO adopted/is adopting it I started to look at AOO. So the current bugs I found are somewhere here: https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/buglist.cgi?component=Drawing&product=LibreOffice&query_format=advanced&resolution=---&order=bug_id%20DESC&query_based_on= starting at 64457 and ending at about 64550 (so somewhere in between this to bug IDs I think) >There is an interactive gradient edit mode, have you seen it? It's >a little bit hidden... Thanks for the hint will look at this one. Because I thought that the old gradient stuff can be also done in the svg way I thought of replacing the old gradient with the new one. For example the Border value could be also done with the hight and width of the gradient in the svg way (at least that's what I thought). But if that's not possible I guess we would have to have Gradient and SVGGradient (was thinking like Gradient + SVGGradient == newawesomeAOOgradient). regards. On 07.06.2013 at 10:16 AM, "Armin Le Grand" wrote:Hi bugreporter99, I see no changes to the old gradient sizes; that's because these are historically grown and should not be touched at all. They do not have own pos/size or whatever attributes, they are just using the area they are set at. Historically (a lot has changed since then, but to make clear why it is as it is): - The area wich is maximally covered (and needs to be painted) is calculated in pixels (no double precision) - This leads to a boundrect - The to be filled geometry is set as mask - Number of steps (as Integer) is calculated - For left/R/T/B an integer add is calculyted to shrink that rect (radial: same, ellipse: different) - In a loop for n steps the rectangle is shrunk by these values, but there were 'if's to not let it overlap itself - The rectangle is filled with a calculated color with rect or ellipse This cannot even be direclty mapped to a transformation (mix of local/discrete coordinate system) and depends on object rotation (!). It was a lot of work to get this mapped to transformations to 'emulate' it in primitive rendering at all (argh), but it works now. Today a primitive is used, all is in double precision. Still, the basic principle from the older days has to be used (the boundrect in world coordinates) to make it look the same, you do not want older loaded files to look diffeent, do you? BTW: There is an interactive gradient edit mode, have you seen it? It's a little bit hidden. Open draw, create a shape with gradient, in the drawing toolber (normally at the bottom) there is a 'effects' DropDown (normally on rotation). Drop it down (or undock it), there are more interesting functions there... For the SVG gradients we will have better/changed UI; I am thinking about a dialog form and also interactive support if possible. Suggestions welcome ;-) E.G.: Have it as a new fill mode (then two: Gradient and SVGGradient) or as one? One means to change the UI i nthe dialog on gradient selection change, also need a method to determine what kind of gradient to create newly (old ones still need to be creatable). And and and... HTH! On 06.06.2013 22:23, bugreporte...@hushmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > what do you think about the way the size of the gradient should be set > (in the future)? > I came up with 4 ways: > 1. Edit-Box for width and height > width/height is set in percentage > 2. Edit-Box for width and height > width/height is set absolute (mm,cm,inch,...) > 3. Edit-Box for width and height > width/height is set as a dot seperated value > -> 1.0 would be the same width/height as parent width/height > 4. NO Edit-Box for width and hight > handles on the gradient(on canvas) are used to change the size > > (the Edit Boxes can be seen in my mockup I sent in the first mail) > http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn > > My opinion > 1. > cause the size of the gradient can be bigger then the parent's > the value would become bigger than 100% ->weird > 2. > if the size is changed and one want to set it to the parent's size > it's not that simple (unless there is a reset button) > 3. > ok, 1,0 would be the same size as the parent's > 4. > cause in my opinion Draw is mostly used to draw simple stuff > the handles may confuse some people and it may be harder to > implement > (although I would like this option as well, cause that's the way > Inkscape does it) > btw. should the Border Edit Box(in the gradient tab) be replaced with > a width/height Edit Box? > I think if one can set the height and widht the border Edit Box > becomes obsolete??? > where can I get the latest snapshot of AOO > is this one ok?:
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
Hi, what do you think about the way the size of the gradient should be set (in the future)? I came up with 4 ways: 1. Edit-Box for width and height width/height is set in percentage 2. Edit-Box for width and height width/height is set absolute (mm,cm,inch,...) 3. Edit-Box for width and height width/height is set as a dot seperated value -> 1.0 would be the same width/height as parent width/height 4. NO Edit-Box for width and hight handles on the gradient(on canvas) are used to change the size (the Edit Boxes can be seen in my mockup I sent in the first mail) http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn My opinion 1. cause the size of the gradient can be bigger then the parent's the value would become bigger than 100% ->weird 2. if the size is changed and one want to set it to the parent's size it's not that simple (unless there is a reset button) 3. ok, 1,0 would be the same size as the parent's 4. cause in my opinion Draw is mostly used to draw simple stuff the handles may confuse some people and it may be harder to implement (although I would like this option as well, cause that's the way Inkscape does it) btw. should the Border Edit Box(in the gradient tab) be replaced with a width/height Edit Box? I think if one can set the height and widht the border Edit Box becomes obsolete??? where can I get the latest snapshot of AOO is this one ok?: https://cwiki.apache.org/OOOUSERS/development-snapshot-builds.html#DevelopmentSnapshotBuilds-AOOSnapshotfullsets I use the LO version from here: http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ On 04.06.2013 at 11:31 PM, "Andrea Pescetti" wrote:Forwarding Armin's and Regina's answers, below, to the original poster. bugreporter99: please follow http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/openoffice-dev/ to read answers (or subscribe to this list, same link). Andrea Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Armin, > > Armin Le Grand schrieb: >> Hi Regina and bugreporter99, >> >> a very interesting topic... >> @bugreporter99: Which tasks did you commit for SVG? I did the SVG >> import, so these should got to AOO probably, did they...? >> >> Using multiple color steps in old gradients: A good idea, I already >> thought about it. Problem is (as often) that we would need a ODF change >> for it. Regina, could you think about something like that, please? > > AOO has not yet implemented the and > (ODF 1.2 section 16.40.2 and 16.40.3). They allow > multiple stop-colors. The schema has > > So in this gradient variant, it is already possible to use multiple > color steps (and some other nice stuff). > > Therefore I think, that in a first step this should be implemented. > > We >> have start and end colors, in-between colors would have to be some value >> pair of float [0..1] and color value... > > The element svg:stop has the attributes > svg:offset, svg:stop-color, and svg:stop-opacity. > The offset is double (actual from 0..1) or percent, stop-color is > #rrggbb, and opacity is double (from 0..1). All is already in the standard. > >> >> Transparency: I thought myself about this; the current 100-0% setting to >> blent the start/end color against black is really not very useful; it's >> just handy to not change the color yourself. If adding an alpha value to >> each color definition, these value entries in the UI could be reused. I >> would guess users who know more modern apps think these values are >> exactly that, sigh. Also needs a ODF change, though. > > It is possible already using stop-opacity. I don't think, that we should > go the way to try to get additional attributes/subelements into > draw:gradient, but implement the two svg-gradients. > >> >> BoundRects of old gradients: This is old stuff some people thought about >> 16-20 years ago and of course not state of the art; it was a handy way >> to draw these gradients at all (think 640kb systems) and got into ODF >> later, sigh, but cannot be changed >> >> SVG gradients: We already have these in the ODF spec, thus it will be >> better to go forward and offer these for the current draw objects >> directly., I think. Regina, what about ODF here and that it only allows >> one of the SVG mapping modes, I think both should be possible. > > Currently only objectBoundingBox is allowed. I think, that AOO should > have it implemented in a way, that both svg:gradientUnits methods are > possible. If an application supports a feature, it is easier to get it > into ODF. It can be done by using a gradientUnits in an own namespace > and later on, when it is in the ODF, map it to the official one on > reading. For such a namespace, discussion with Thorsten would be useful. > >> &
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
Hello, >>But I'd like also to set the >>transparency of each gradient color. >Transparency it a forth channel besides RGB. There exist nothing like a >"transparency of a color". Each value of a pixel consists of four parts: >Red, Green, Blue and transparency, each in the range of 0 to 255. >I do not really understand, which result you want to get tried to make an image in Inkscape ;) to make it a little bit clearer. http://i40.tinypic.com/358dtly.png On 04.06.2013 at 5:14 PM, "Regina Henschel" wrote:Hi, bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb: > Many thanks for the answer Regina, > > (thought I would be dopped to the spam folder ;) ) > >>Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are >>always people needed to test the product, whether the new features work >>as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a >>topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design opinion, >>but making tests like the icon test in LO. > > actually I do report bugs, when I find some (in most cases svg stuff atm) > >>Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done >>with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the gradient >>relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in AOO. > > Looking at LO4.0.4 and AOO3.4.1 the gradients are not rendered correctly. > for example: > on AOO3.4.1 (can't tell about newer versions) Please do not test with AOO 3.4.1. Rendering svg and rendering gradients have been reworked. Please use a current snapshot of AOO4.0 [..] >>Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine >>transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you want >>that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need >>not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet >>discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area >>dialog. > > Yes, but if you look at the attachement > (https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=79272) of the > bugreport I mentioned, it does not makde that much sense (imo) to use > the percentage for the blackness. The transparency tab would just change > the WHOLE gradient transparency. The transparency itself can be defined as gradient. But I'd like also to set the > transparency of each gradient color. Transparency it a forth channel besides RGB. There exist nothing like a "transparency of a color". Each value of a pixel consists of four parts: Red, Green, Blue and transparency, each in the range of 0 to 255. I do not really understand, which result you want to get. Your attachment shows some changes in UI, but do not explain, what the resulting gradient should look like. Kind regards Regina
Re: Draw, make some changes to gradients
Many thanks for the answer Regina, (thought I would be dopped to the spam folder ;) ) >Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are >always people needed to test the product, whether the new features work >as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a >topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design opinion, >but making tests like the icon test in LO. actually I do report bugs, when I find some (in most cases svg stuff atm) >Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done >with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the gradient >relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in AOO. Looking at LO4.0.4 and AOO3.4.1 the gradients are not rendered correctly. for example: on AOO3.4.1 (can't tell about newer versions) # the ellipsoid gradient (having more than 2 colors) is rendered wrongly #also the hight of the ellipsoid gradient is rendered wrongly (cause there is not option atm to set the hight/width of the gradient) on LO4.0.4 #the same but seems like the issue with ellipsoid gradients with more than 2 colors is maybe fixed in 4.1beta >Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine >transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you want >that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need >not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet >discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area >dialog. Yes, but if you look at the attachement (https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=79272) of the bugreport I mentioned, it does not makde that much sense (imo) to use the percentage for the blackness. The transparency tab would just change the WHOLE gradient transparency. But I'd like also to set the transparency of each gradient color. >We tend to make the draw stuff more like svg. Already now it is possible >to use a svg-graphic; and its gradients are rendered nicely. +2 >Area > Gradient is already the dialog page to edit gradients. What >editing feature do you miss on that page? But keep in mind, that color >gradient and transparency are independent properties. as described above that maybe should be changed a little (allowoing also to change the transparency of each gradient color) >Besides that, changes have to be compatible with ODF or find its way in >the next version of ODF. ODF needs to update faster so it can support the important/widely used things of svg ;) As you may noticed I'm a spoiled Inkscape user who just wants to import some svg drawing into AOO/LO (at least some basic svg drawings no animation or such things) :) Kind regards bugreporter99. On 03.06.2013 at 6:35 PM, "Regina Henschel" wrote:Hi ???, bugreporte...@hushmail.com schrieb: > Dear Apache Open Office/Libre Office devs, > the reason why I'm writing is, cause I can't code and want to make OO > better. Coding is not the only way to make AOO better. For example there are always people needed to test the product, whether the new features work as intended and whether no regressions slipped in. Also usability is a topic for non coder, and usability is not about a single design opinion, but making tests like the icon test in LO. > Specially the way gradients in Draw works. At the moment the gradients > stuff is rudimentary. > Well I guess little kids may have fun with this but you can't do real > work with that. > So this HAS to be changed. > At least the following things should be added: > - possibility to use more than two colors for the gradient +1 > - set the hight and width of the gradient Currently the gradient is relative to the shape. Adjustments are done with the Border property. With svg it is possible to define the gradient relative to the parent of the shape and that is rendered correctly in AOO. > - the percentage of the color should change the transparency and not > the "blackness" of the color >https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64469 -1 Transparency is an additional feature. You can already combine transparency with solid color (I guess from the pdf-file, that you want that), but you can also combine transparency with gradients. You need not even use the same kind of gradient. It seems you have not yet discovered the property 'Gradient' in the Transparency tab of the Area dialog. > Because this will break compatibillity with older Versions of OO I > think there should be as much changes as > possible to prevent having to do big changes in the future to the > gradients stuff. > So here is my suggestion to the GUI part (pdf file: > http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn). > The coding part is up to you cause that's out of my
Draw, make some changes to gradients
Dear Apache Open Office/Libre Office devs, the reason why I'm writing is, cause I can't code and want to make OO better. Specially the way gradients in Draw works. At the moment the gradients stuff is rudimentary. Well I guess little kids may have fun with this but you can't do real work with that. So this HAS to be changed. At least the following things should be added: - possibility to use more than two colors for the gradient - set the hight and width of the gradient - the percentage of the color should change the transparency and not the "blackness" of the color https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=64469 Because this will break compatibillity with older Versions of OO I think there should be as much changes as possible to prevent having to do big changes in the future to the gradients stuff. So here is my suggestion to the GUI part (pdf file: http://temp-share.com/show/f3Ygit6Xn). The coding part is up to you cause that's out of my scope. I would like you guys to think about how this could be implemented and if there is a better way to do it on the GUI side (maybe an extra button which will pop-up an extra window for the editing of the gradient???). Please fuck the licensing issues so the code can be used in both projects.
