[PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi,

currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

For example:

apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 - size 217635696
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  - size 287122205
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip - size 335796134

The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
releases.

Juergen

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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann

Hi,

On 15.04.2014 13:01, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:

Hi,

currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

For example:

apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 - size 217635696
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  - size 287122205
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip - size 335796134

The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
releases.



+1 for dropping one of two packages.

I am not sure, if the dropped one should be the *.tar.gz one as our 
current full installation packages for Linux provided for the 
convenience of our users are *.tar.gz files.
But may be this is not relevant as the target audience for the source 
release and full installation packages are different.


Best regards, Oliver.


Juergen

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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:
 Hi,

 currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

 For example:

 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 - size 217635696
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  - size 287122205
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip - size 335796134

xz -9e (maximum compression)
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.xz - size 155463144

xz -6 (default)
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.xz - size 189140196

 The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
 windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
 uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
 starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

 If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
 releases.

Both gzip and bzip2 are rather inefficient. I suggest to replace gzip
with xz for the next release after 4.1 and drop bzip2 for the release
after that.

See also https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122819


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn


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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 4/15/14 1:57 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:
 Hi,

 currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

 For example:

 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 - size 217635696
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  - size 287122205
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip - size 335796134
 
 xz -9e (maximum compression)
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.xz - size 155463144
 
 xz -6 (default)
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.xz - size 189140196
 
 The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
 windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
 uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
 starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

 If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
 releases.
 
 Both gzip and bzip2 are rather inefficient. I suggest to replace gzip
 with xz for the next release after 4.1 and drop bzip2 for the release
 after that.
 
 See also https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122819
 

xz compression is better but not so common, I am not sure. At Apache
tar.gz is most common and tar.bz2 as well. But I have not seen tar.xz

And I want drop one and don't replace one.

Juergen

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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Jürgen Schmidt schrieb:
 On 4/15/14 1:57 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
 Both gzip and bzip2 are rather inefficient. I suggest to replace gzip
 with xz for the next release after 4.1 and drop bzip2 for the release
 after that. See also
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=122819 
 xz compression is better but not so common, I am not sure. At Apache
 tar.gz is most common and tar.bz2 as well. But I have not seen tar.xz

xz is present in all modern Linux distributions and FreeBSD. It is also
available on Solaris 5.11 as pkg://solaris/compress/xz (but not
installed by default I think).

 And I want drop one and don't replace one.

Going from zip+gzip+bzip2 to zip+xz will drop two and add one. And it
will reduce download size for users who build from source by several
dozen MB.


Best regards,
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn


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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 4:01 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,

 currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

 For example:

 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 - size 217635696
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  - size 287122205
 apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip - size 335796134

 The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
 windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
 uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
 starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

 If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
 releases.

 Juergen

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As this will only apply to source release packages, I think your proposal
is fine.

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Re: [PROPOSAL]: drop tar.gz source release, 1 of 3 formats

2014-04-15 Thread Marcus (OOo)

Am 04/15/2014 01:01 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:

currently we are preparing 3 src releases packages with the same content.

For example:

apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.bz2 -  size 217635696
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.tar.gz  -  size 287122205
apache-openoffice-4.1.0-r1586584-src.zip -  size 335796134

The first 2 are common in the unix world and the third one in the
windows world. To reduce the used disk space on mirrors and to reduce
uploads etc. I would like to propose that we drop the .tar.gz version
starting with AOO 4.2 or whatever version comes next after AOO 4.1.

If nobody complains I will execute according the proposal for future
releases.


+1

I don't know which one but maybe someone knows a survey where .tar.gz or 
.tar.bz2 is the favorite. Or we can just decide from download numbers.


Marcus


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