Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-04-24 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi

2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com:
 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

Andre, i'm using (directly) the 4.0 snapshot, and i saw that all
components from format toolbar are present in sidebar, except the
style and format window (F11).

If we put this button in sidebar, we don't need more this toolbar,
giving more some pixels in the text space. Is this idea in the plan?

Best,
Claudio

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

What I like about the sidebar: ...
- Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users!


Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that the 
sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement new 
features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count (not 
the button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar. Is this 
technically feasible?


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread RGB ES
2013/3/24 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org

 On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:

 What I like about the sidebar: ...

 - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users!


 Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that the
 sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement new
 features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count (not the
 button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar. Is this
 technically feasible?


Real time word count? Yes, this will make lots of users happy!

Regards
Ricardo




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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 05:56:58PM +0100, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
 On 22/03/2013 Hagar Delest wrote:
 What I like about the sidebar: ...
 - Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users!
 
 Indeed. And another way to make lots of users happy, and show that
 the sidebar is not only a new interface but also a way to implement
 new features, would be to include the output of Tools - Word Count
 (not the button, which might still be useful though) in the sidebar.
 Is this technically feasible?

The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this
extension (demo):
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Hagar Delest

Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :

The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this
extension (demo):
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/


+1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something 
else in the sidebar.

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Andrea Pescetti

Hagar Delest wrote:

Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :

The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this
extension (demo):
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/

+1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to
something else in the sidebar.


Sure. If there is an extension already available and all the needed API 
work as described in

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121442
has been done by Ariel in the last months (thanks!), then let's just 
integrate and enable this extension by default and not use the sidebar 
for that.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-24 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:58:00 +0100
Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:

 Le 24/03/2013 18:45, Ariel Constenla-Haile a écrit :
  The real-time word count is useful on the status bar, as in this
  extension (demo):
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/devtools/sdk-examples/trunk/cpp/components/StatusbarController/WordCountStatusbarController/
 
 +1 to implement word count in the status bar and give the place to something 
 else in the sidebar.
 
 Hagar

Agreed that Word Count would be better in the Status bar, rather than in the 
Sidebar. My reasons: if Sidebar is turned off by a User and they continue to 
use the classic OpenOffice interface, then they still have the Word Count.

I haven't yet had time to try the Sidebar (apart from looking at the visuals), 
as my current systems are all 32 bit Ubuntu; in the next few weeks I hope to 
migrate one or more to 64 bit Ubuntu so I can try the Sidebar
-- 
Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Juergen Schmidt
Am Donnerstag, 21. März 2013 um 23:30 schrieb Hagar Delest:
 Nice.
 I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below one of 
 them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it doesn't takes 
 its previous place but almost all space of the panel, reducing the room left 
 for the other panel.
  
  

currently work is ongoing to integrate the gallery. The navigator and stylist 
should be also integrated. But there are of course questions how exactly. Some 
users might prefer to have both visible and docked, how would it be in the 
sidebar? We have to figure out what is best and what works best. We can 
probably do not everything for 4.0 but it's good to collect feedback and ideas. 
The currently floating table toolbar is also a candidate for integration in the 
sidebar. Volunteers are welcome to help ;-)
Long term it would be perfect if users can configure the content of the decks 
similar to toolbars today. But all this is a lot of work and has to be done. We 
need much more core basics like a working layout engine etc.
We will see how our users will accept the sidebar in general and it is only the 
beginning.
I personally like the sidebar and believe it will be a really huge step forward 
to increase the usability.

Juergen
  
 Hagar
  
  
 Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina Henschel a écrit :
  
  Hi Andre,
   
  do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write an 
  issue?
   
  Kind regards
  Regina
   
   
  Andre Fischer schrieb:
   Hello everybody,

   The two most important improvements since my last update:
   - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area,
   Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
   - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
   appear in the finished sidebar. The missing panels are replaced by
   placeholders for the time being.

   More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel,
   context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the
   Wiki page [1].

   The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
   sidebar. But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a
   little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


   But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject.
   Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
   But please not that this is work in progress. Do not use it to work on
   important documents.

   If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a
   short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you
   find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be
   visible for each context.

   Have fun,
   Andre


   [1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
   [2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
   [3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Andre Fischer

On 21.03.2013 21:14, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Andre,

do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or 
write an issue?


Regina, Hagar, anybody else who finds bugs:

yes, please write an issue for everything you find.  Please see [1] for 
some simple things that would help me keep track of them


Depending on how many you find I will maintain a list on the wiki [1] 
about all/the most severe ones.


Thanks,
Andre

[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Known_Bugs



Kind regards
Regina


Andre Fischer schrieb:

Hello everybody,

The two most important improvements since my last update:
- There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area,
Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
- Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
placeholders for the time being.

More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel,
context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the
Wiki page [1].

The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a
little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about 
it.



But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject.
Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred 
platform.

But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
important documents.

If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a
short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you
find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be
visible for each context.

Have fun,
Andre


[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Andre Fischer

On 21.03.2013 23:30, Hagar Delest wrote:

Nice.
I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below 
one of them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it 
doesn't takes its previous place but almost all space of the panel, 
reducing the room left for the other panel.


Hagar, thanks for the feedback.  I can not reproduce this behavior but 
am probably doing something different then you are.  Can you write an 
issue (see another post of mine in this thread for details) with a 
step-by-step description of how to reproduce it?


Thanks,
Andre



Hagar


Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina Henschel a écrit :


Hi Andre,

do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or 
write an issue?


Kind regards
Regina


Andre Fischer schrieb:

Hello everybody,

The two most important improvements since my last update:
- There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area,
Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
- Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
placeholders for the time being.

More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel,
context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on 
the

Wiki page [1].

The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a
little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write 
about it.



But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject.
Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred 
platform.

But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
important documents.

If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a
short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you
find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels 
should be

visible for each context.

Have fun,
Andre


[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Andre Fischer

On 22.03.2013 08:30, Hagar Delest wrote:

Le 22/03/2013 07:10, Juergen Schmidt a écrit :
currently work is ongoing to integrate the gallery. The navigator and 
stylist should be also integrated. But there are of course questions 
how exactly. Some users might prefer to have both visible and docked, 
how would it be in the sidebar? We have to figure out what is best 
and what works best. We can probably do not everything for 4.0 but 
it's good to collect feedback and ideas. The currently floating table 
toolbar is also a candidate for integration in the sidebar. 
Volunteers are welcome to help ;-)
Long term it would be perfect if users can configure the content of 
the decks similar to toolbars today. But all this is a lot of work 
and has to be done. We need much more core basics like a working 
layout engine etc.
We will see how our users will accept the sidebar in general and it 
is only the beginning.
I personally like the sidebar and believe it will be a really huge 
step forward to increase the usability.


What I like about the sidebar:
- The button that opens the properties of the main dialog (avoid right 
click to access character/paragraph properties for example)
- Better screen real estate for wide screens (something a bit like The 
Gimp)
- Could be the possibility to remove the default formatting toolbar at 
the top (to increase space for the document)

- The possibility to reduce each section of the Sidebar
- Increase/Decrease font buttons will please a lot of users!

Not sure the page settings should be included: they are not that often 
accessed (but well, that section can be reduced)
About integration of the Navigator (and Stylist): I use them a lot and 
the Navigator is THE panel that I would not like to be hidden in any 
way. All users working with long documents really need it visible just 
all the time. Even an extra click to switch to it would be cumbersome.


There are no concrete plans to disable the standalone versions of 
navigator and other dialogs that are to be included in the sidebar.
Once the sidebar is released, we as a community, will have to decide on 
how to go on.  Also, the feature set of the sidebar is not fixed for all 
times.  One possible improvement could be to make decks and panels able 
to detach from the sidebar window: plug the navigator inside the sidebar 
if you want or plug it side-by-side with the sidebar, both visible at 
the same time.


Maybe we (I) should start a new section on the Sidebar wiki page for 
possible future enhancements?


-Andre


NB: a drop-down list in the Text/Paragraph sections could be added to 
select the Character/Paragraph styles.
Vertical spacing of the buttons seems rather large but I guess it will 
be part of the fine tuning.


I just noticed that mouse wheel on the Sidebar scrolls the document 
and not the Sidebar.


Just my feedback based on my personal use of Writer.

Hagar

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:34 AM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote:
 Le 22/03/2013 08:54, Andre Fischer a écrit :

 Hagar, thanks for the feedback.  I can not reproduce this behavior but am
 probably doing something different then you are.  Can you write an issue
 (see another post of mine in this thread for details) with a step-by-step
 description of how to reproduce it?


 Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121933
 Not sure it will be easily confirmed since the behavior is not 100%
 reproducible it seems.

 NB: no access to the assign field.


If you associate your Apache email address with your BZ account you
will get additional permissions.

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-22 Thread Andre Fischer

On 22.03.2013 09:34, Hagar Delest wrote:

Le 22/03/2013 08:54, Andre Fischer a écrit :
Hagar, thanks for the feedback.  I can not reproduce this behavior 
but am probably doing something different then you are.  Can you 
write an issue (see another post of mine in this thread for details) 
with a step-by-step description of how to reproduce it?


Done: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=121933
Not sure it will be easily confirmed since the behavior is not 100% 
reproducible it seems.


NB: no access to the assign field.


Done.  The assigning to me, not the fix :-)
-Andre



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[sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Andre Fischer

Hello everybody,

The two most important improvements since my last update:
- There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, 
Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
- Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should 
appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by 
placeholders for the time being.


More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, 
context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the 
Wiki page [1].


The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the 
sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a 
little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.



But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. 
Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on 
important documents.


If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a 
short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you 
find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be 
visible for each context.


Have fun,
Andre


[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread RGB ES
2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Anyway, downloading right now :)

Regards
Ricardo


Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com
 
 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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 instead of ...rpm_en...

fixed

 
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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:00:03 +0100
Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
  2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com
  
  Hello everybody,
 
  The two most important improvements since my last update:
  - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
  and Size, Graphics, Page)
  - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
  appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
  placeholders for the time being.
 
  More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
  as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
  [1].
 
  The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
  sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
  more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.
 
 
  But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
  go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
  But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
  important documents.
 
  If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
  section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
  the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
  each context.
 
  Have fun,
  Andre
 
 
  [1] 
  http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
  [2] 
  http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
  [3] 
  http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA
 
 
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  The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
  instead of ...rpm_en...
 
 fixed
 
  
  Anyway, downloading right now :)
  
  Regards
  Ricardo
  
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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Mechtilde
Hello,

can someone fix also the link to the DEBs.

I get the error Forbidden

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 21.03.2013 18:00, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
 On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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 The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
 instead of ...rpm_en...
 
 fixed
 

 Anyway, downloading right now :)

 Regards
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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/21/13 6:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
 On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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 The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
 instead of ...rpm_en...
 
 fixed

to avoid confusion, this builds are based on the sidebar branch which is
not yet rebased to trunk, means still OpenOffice.org as name and version
is 3.5.

Juergen

 

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/21/13 6:13 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:00:03 +0100
 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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 The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
 instead of ...rpm_en...

 fixed


 Anyway, downloading right now :)

 Regards
 Ricardo

 I'm getting a You don't have permission to access 
 /~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/Apache_OpenOffice-Dev_AOO350m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
  on this server. on the DEB and the Windows versions.  OK on the RPM and the 
 Mac versions.
 

fixed for both, one day I will learn to check the permissions ;-)

Juergen

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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Just trying it out now and the sidebar is awesome.
Nice.
Louis


On 13-03-21, at 12:54 , RGB ES rgb.m...@gmail.com wrote:

 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com
 
 Hello everybody,
 
 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.
 
 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].
 
 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.
 
 
 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.
 
 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible for
 each context.
 
 Have fun,
 Andre
 
 
 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA
 
 
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 The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
 instead of ...rpm_en...
 
 Anyway, downloading right now :)
 
 Regards
 Ricardo


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Mechtilde
Hello Jürgen,

thanks now installation and starting works

Kind regards

Mechtilde

Am 21.03.2013 18:24, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
 On 3/21/13 6:13 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
 On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 18:00:03 +0100
 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 3/21/13 5:54 PM, RGB ES wrote:
 2013/3/21 Andre Fischer awf@gmail.com

 Hello everybody,

 The two most important improvements since my last update:
 - There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area, Position
 and Size, Graphics, Page)
 - Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
 appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
 placeholders for the time being.

 More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel, context)
 as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the Wiki page
 [1].

 The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
 sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a little
 more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


 But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject. Please
 go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
 But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
 important documents.

 If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a short
 section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you find all
 the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be visible 
 for
 each context.

 Have fun,
 Andre


 [1] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebarhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
 [2] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Buildshttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
 [3] 
 http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Sidebar#QAhttp://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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 The link on the wiki to the 64 bits rpm is wrong. It says ...rom_en...
 instead of ...rpm_en...

 fixed


 Anyway, downloading right now :)

 Regards
 Ricardo

 I'm getting a You don't have permission to access 
 /~jsc/developer-snapshots/snapshot/linux_x86-64/Apache_OpenOffice-Dev_AOO350m1_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_en-US.tar.gz
  on this server. on the DEB and the Windows versions.  OK on the RPM and 
 the Mac versions.

 
 fixed for both, one day I will learn to check the permissions ;-)
 
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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Andre,

do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write 
an issue?


Kind regards
Regina


Andre Fischer schrieb:

Hello everybody,

The two most important improvements since my last update:
- There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area,
Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
- Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
placeholders for the time being.

More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel,
context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the
Wiki page [1].

The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a
little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject.
Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
important documents.

If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a
short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you
find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be
visible for each context.

Have fun,
Andre


[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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Re: [sidebar] Snapshot builds are available

2013-03-21 Thread Hagar Delest

Nice.
I use to dock Stylist and Navigator. When the Sidebar is docked below one of 
them, if you hide it and then display it (with View menu), it doesn't takes its 
previous place but almost all space of the panel, reducing the room left for 
the other panel.

Hagar


Le 21/03/2013 21:14, Regina Henschel a écrit :


Hi Andre,

do you want, that I post the problem I find here in the thread, or write an 
issue?

Kind regards
Regina


Andre Fischer schrieb:

Hello everybody,

The two most important improvements since my last update:
- There are some more panels migrated from Symphony (Line, Area,
Position and Size, Graphics, Page)
- Context switching works and shows the decks and panels as they should
appear in the finished sidebar.  The missing panels are replaced by
placeholders for the time being.

More information and an explanation of the concepts (deck, panel,
context) as well as short descriptions of the panels can be found on the
Wiki page [1].

The most important thing I have not (yet) done is: blogging about the
sidebar.  But the implementation is now in a state that deserves a
little more publicity so I will see if I find the time to write about it.


But now to the snapshot builds that I have promised in the subject.
Please go to [2] to find the installation set for your preferred platform.
But please not that this is work in progress.  Do not use it to work on
important documents.

If you are interested in doing QA on the sidebar feature, there is a
short section [3] that lists three simple documents that will help you
find all the different contexts and that tell you which panels should be
visible for each context.

Have fun,
Andre


[1] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar
[2] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#Developer_Builds
[3] http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Sidebar#QA


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