Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
Hi All, Top posting. Sorry for my late reply, it's been hectic at work since the last 3 months, plus a long weekend in New York (I longed for that holiday break!), this city is just great, I need some new feet but that was gorgeous. So, long story short, I've some difficulties to follow what's going on since a while... Back to the topic (note that there are moderators and volunteers in the forum to discuss the subject, I'm not the only one in charge!). We decided to set up the Gmail address because we had to act ASAP, considering the time the service was down. We still record each message in the forum in dedicated threads and it proved to be worth since we are getting more than 15 messages per month (250+ replies from Jan. 2014). It was agreed IIRC that it would be a temporary measure until we manage to get an official channel. The best would have been a kind of automated thing that sends the messages to a dedicated forum thread with an automatic reply depending on the mail address, but it was already discussed in the past. It seemed to be too complex for the current handling through Apache systems. In fact, we had already agreed on the next steps several months ago: http://markmail.org/message/7vvbh7z7h4iwyvsb So we just need the details now, like how it actually works. As for the working level, I propose that: - the admin are the ML moderators - the moderators can be subscribed to the list (moderators do see the dedicated section in the forum). We would keep the duplication system in the forum so that we can check if someone has already made a reply for the messages. A last thing: the mail used would be the one that sends the forum notifications (replies, PMs, ...). I don't remember how the other NL forums handle this (perhaps they don't have any contact mail at all). Are we talking about the EN forum only or had you in mind a more global address? If a NL contact address is needed, we may need other similar ML. Hagar Le 02/05/2015 11:26, Andrea Pescetti a écrit : Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
Hi Andrea, I am a moderator for Japanese forum. I like the option 3). Thanks, khirano On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- khir...@apache.org Apache OpenOffice http://openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
Am 05/03/2015 05:05 PM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:51:09 +0200 Andrea Pescettipesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 Rory O'Farrell wrote: Hagar (Admin on en-Forum) is away from home for about a week; I would not wish to make this decision without consulting him. Sure. Of course this is mainly a decision for forum administrators to make, since they will be the ones using (or not using) it. The list has been ready for several months, so I don't think it's an issue if we have to wait one week to decide what to do. In case you need to point other administrators at this conversation, it's archived at http://markmail.org/message/2pvpau5ohxm22kif I have communicated with one other Administrator; we both feel we should leave it until Hagar returns, then we will raise it with the other admins and moderators. +1 AFAIK this was created for the forums admins. So, let's ask them - and wait for the answer - for their favorite way. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
On 02/05/2015 Rory O'Farrell wrote: Hagar (Admin on en-Forum) is away from home for about a week; I would not wish to make this decision without consulting him. Sure. Of course this is mainly a decision for forum administrators to make, since they will be the ones using (or not using) it. The list has been ready for several months, so I don't think it's an issue if we have to wait one week to decide what to do. In case you need to point other administrators at this conversation, it's archived at http://markmail.org/message/2pvpau5ohxm22kif Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
On Sun, 03 May 2015 16:51:09 +0200 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/05/2015 Rory O'Farrell wrote: Hagar (Admin on en-Forum) is away from home for about a week; I would not wish to make this decision without consulting him. Sure. Of course this is mainly a decision for forum administrators to make, since they will be the ones using (or not using) it. The list has been ready for several months, so I don't think it's an issue if we have to wait one week to decide what to do. In case you need to point other administrators at this conversation, it's archived at http://markmail.org/message/2pvpau5ohxm22kif I have communicated with one other Administrator; we both feel we should leave it until Hagar returns, then we will raise it with the other admins and moderators. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
On Saturday, May 2, 2015, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. +1 rgds jan i The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Sent from My iPad, sorry for any misspellings.
Forum administrators alias / mailing list
Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
On Sat, 02 May 2015 11:26:20 +0200 Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. My understanding from a personal message is that Hagar (Admin on en-Forum) is away from home for about a week; I would not wish to make this decision without consulting him. -- Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Forum administrators alias / mailing list
I favor option (2) but I think that may be confusing from an administrative perspective. In that case, I join Jan in favoring option (3) An advantage of option (2) is that it can always be retargeted as necessary. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pesce...@apache.org] Sent: Saturday, May 2, 2015 02:26 To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Forum administrators alias / mailing list Our latest Board report contained an automatically generated section with all available mailing lists. One of them, named forum-admin AT openoffice.apache.org, is currently unused. It was created as a more official replacement for the current e-mail address used by forum administrators, aoo.forum.en AT gmail.com. What shall we do with it? 1) We subscribe all forum moderators (I mean: the people who now have access to the Gmail address) to it individually, aiming at replacing the Gmail address. 2) We forward it to the Gmail address, thus keeping all current processes in place but giving users the reassurance that they are contacting admins through a recognizable channel. This is my favorite solution since it won't modify any existing workflow. 3) We simply drop the mailing list and we continue using the Gmail address. The list is configured to let all messages through, so moderators of the list merely manage subscribers. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
