Mentoring new Developers

2014-02-10 Thread Rainer Bielefeld

Hi all,

I know 2 charts, 1 with good news
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/reports.cgi?product=-All-datasets=UNCONFIRMED
and one with bad news:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/reports.cgi?product=-All-datasets=CONFIRMED

I think we urgently need some assistance for the core developers by 
interested newbie developers Does AOO have a systematic approach how to 
interest new willing developers and to make sure that they have some 
sense of achievement when they start? And is that promoted at prominent 
places?


Of course I know http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html, but 
to me that all sounds bureaucratic and not very inviting.


I think we (additionally) need an alternative approach, let's call it 
Easy Patches. My experience (as a not-developer, but engaged QA 
member) is that smaller UI-patches are a nice way to get some first 
experience with th code of the project; And mentoring for newbies does 
not cost too much time, a simple you find the code in xy area and a 
review of the patch should be enough in most cases.


Examples for bugs what might need an easy patch might be these [1], I 
think there are a lot more.


A part of this idea is to create a short introduction in the Wiki with 
an automatically generated list of such promising Easy Patch Bug 
reports, some developers willing to mentor and a very short instruction 
how to start some first steps to create a patch.


Ideas, concerns, interest to support something like this?

Best regards

Rainer




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[1] 
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_id=124200%2C124186%2C124054%2C124046%2C124012%2C120850%2C89934%2C124183%2C124119%2C124035%2C123931%2C122712list_id=123278


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Re: Mentoring new Developers

2014-02-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 5:56 AM, Rainer Bielefeld
rainerbielefeld_ooo...@bielefeldundbuss.de wrote:
 Hi all,

 I know 2 charts, 1 with good news
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/reports.cgi?product=-All-datasets=UNCONFIRMED
 and one with bad news:
 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/reports.cgi?product=-All-datasets=CONFIRMED

 I think we urgently need some assistance for the core developers by
 interested newbie developers Does AOO have a systematic approach how to
 interest new willing developers and to make sure that they have some sense
 of achievement when they start? And is that promoted at prominent places?


We send new developers to this page, which shows them how to get
started with their first build:

http://openoffice.apache.org/orientation/intro-development.html


 Of course I know http://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html, but to me
 that all sounds bureaucratic and not very inviting.

 I think we (additionally) need an alternative approach, let's call it Easy
 Patches. My experience (as a not-developer, but engaged QA member) is that
 smaller UI-patches are a nice way to get some first experience with th code
 of the project; And mentoring for newbies does not cost too much time, a
 simple you find the code in xy area and a review of the patch should be
 enough in most cases.


We have something like this as well.  We use the developer
difficulty field in Bugzilla to mark bugs that are easy or
simple.  These are the ones we point new developers to.


 Examples for bugs what might need an easy patch might be these [1], I think
 there are a lot more.


Some of these might be candidates for easy hacks.  I'll take a look.

 A part of this idea is to create a short introduction in the Wiki with an
 automatically generated list of such promising Easy Patch Bug reports, some
 developers willing to mentor and a very short instruction how to start some
 first steps to create a patch.


If we do it via Bugzilla then getting a report is easy.  In fact it
can be a simple link to a query, yes?

Regards,

-Rob


 Ideas, concerns, interest to support something like this?

 Best regards

 Rainer




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 https://issues.apache.org/ooo/buglist.cgi?bug_id=124200%2C124186%2C124054%2C124046%2C124012%2C120850%2C89934%2C124183%2C124119%2C124035%2C123931%2C122712list_id=123278

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