New Record Download Day
No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On 10 October 2013 16:33, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. Indeed very impressive. Do we have any ideas how the other openoffice versions are doing in terms of download ? if they publish their numbers we could think about a blog post telling about the total number, that must be impressive. rgds jan I. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
Hello, From: Louis Suarez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2013 4:33 PM To: dev@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: New Record Download Day On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. Since I would not be so sure, because MS Office 2010 should have by now gained a relatively high market share. In addition, older versions of MS Office, with which, for example: http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/ ODF can handle. Greetings, Jorg - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 October 2013 16:33, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. Indeed very impressive. Do we have any ideas how the other openoffice versions are doing in terms of download ? if they publish their numbers we could think about a blog post telling about the total number, that must be impressive. Some of them did publish download numbers, but stopped doing so after AOO 3.4.0 was released and we started publishing our numbers. But it is hard to come up with apples-to-apples comparisons. For example, Linux users get LO with their distro. They don't download. LO has been available for 3 years, but AOO for only 18 months. We're counting only full installs, LO is counting -- well, we really don't know. The products have different update cycles, so it is hard to convert downloads into users. (If you have many small releases then each user will generate several downloads). Differences like this make it hard to compare the two. But one approach is to look at Windows downloads from 3rd party websites, like download.com. This avoids all of the above problems. If you look there you see that in the last week AOO has been downloaded 21,850 times, and LibreOffice 2,664 times. But from the perspective of ODF editors, Microsoft has pretty good ODF support now as well, so the true number of ODF editor installs is probably near 1 billion now. -Rob rgds jan I. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On 2013-10-10, at 15:21 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: But from the perspective of ODF editors, Microsoft has pretty good ODF support now as well, so the true number of ODF editor installs is probably near 1 billion now. And would therefore would not be crazy to think that there be money in those numbers: support, services, and the like. In the days of OOo, the money was hard to get: large installations also tended to provide their own support. But there numbers are even larger, much larger, now; then, the most optimistic accounts gave us about 100M and I was pretty skeptical. I'm not skeptical now. So, I know that Lanedo is offering paid support for LO installs; support is a term of art, and it pays little. Better money is to be made with other services and also with certifications. But even aside from that, the numbers speak to the fact that those enterprises, public, private, what have you, previously vacillating, ought now to dive in. Even if the vast bulk of ODF editors are not, in fact, open, nevertheless, the option of an open suite that is very usable and which has a significant user base, as well as being backed by a, well, behemoth—I mean IBM—ought to reassure the nervous nellies who would previously never have considered anything besides MSFT. What we need now then is a good mobile (tablet) editor. I'm working with someone doing one for iOS. Android is quite possible. But we need resources for that. (And I mean, of course, a native client.) louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On 10 October 2013 21:21, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 October 2013 16:33, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. Indeed very impressive. Do we have any ideas how the other openoffice versions are doing in terms of download ? if they publish their numbers we could think about a blog post telling about the total number, that must be impressive. Some of them did publish download numbers, but stopped doing so after AOO 3.4.0 was released and we started publishing our numbers. But it is hard to come up with apples-to-apples comparisons. For example, Linux users get LO with their distro. They don't download. LO has been available for 3 years, but AOO for only 18 months. We're counting only full installs, LO is counting -- well, we really don't know. The products have different update cycles, so it is hard to convert downloads into users. (If you have many small releases then each user will generate several downloads). Differences like this make it hard to compare the two. But one approach is to look at Windows downloads from 3rd party websites, like download.com. This avoids all of the above problems. If you look there you see that in the last week AOO has been downloaded 21,850 times, and LibreOffice 2,664 times. But from the perspective of ODF editors, Microsoft has pretty good ODF support now as well, so the true number of ODF editor installs is probably near 1 billion now. Please bear in mind I was not trying to battle LO and AOO who has the most downloads. I was simply asking if we can come up with a somewhat reliable figure how many have downloaded a free office version against how many have paid for the version. I am still thinking about the issue about saving money, which I think is high on many goverment/departmental lists right now. Something we can use to make a slight push in direction of free software independent of branding. rgds jan I. -Rob rgds jan I. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New Record Download Day
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 October 2013 21:21, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 11:07 AM, janI j...@apache.org wrote: On 10 October 2013 16:33, Louis Suárez-Potts lui...@gmail.com wrote: On 2013-10-10, at 10:01 , Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: No, this is not a duplicate message. We hit another new download record yesterday, of 241,987 downloads, beating the record previously set on Monday of 233,070 downloads. -Rob This is impressive. Add these numbers to those also generated by LibreOffice and other versions of OpenOffice, and we can start thinking again of a seriously large installed base of ODF editors, most of which are open source. Indeed very impressive. Do we have any ideas how the other openoffice versions are doing in terms of download ? if they publish their numbers we could think about a blog post telling about the total number, that must be impressive. Some of them did publish download numbers, but stopped doing so after AOO 3.4.0 was released and we started publishing our numbers. But it is hard to come up with apples-to-apples comparisons. For example, Linux users get LO with their distro. They don't download. LO has been available for 3 years, but AOO for only 18 months. We're counting only full installs, LO is counting -- well, we really don't know. The products have different update cycles, so it is hard to convert downloads into users. (If you have many small releases then each user will generate several downloads). Differences like this make it hard to compare the two. But one approach is to look at Windows downloads from 3rd party websites, like download.com. This avoids all of the above problems. If you look there you see that in the last week AOO has been downloaded 21,850 times, and LibreOffice 2,664 times. But from the perspective of ODF editors, Microsoft has pretty good ODF support now as well, so the true number of ODF editor installs is probably near 1 billion now. Please bear in mind I was not trying to battle LO and AOO who has the most downloads. I was simply asking if we can come up with a somewhat reliable figure how many have downloaded a free office version against how many have paid for the version. My data says that in the U.S., 16.1% of surveyed internet users use OpenOffice either sometimes or regularly. For the same question 5.7% use LibreOffice. So roughly speaking open source office suites have 20% market share. This is probably centered in home/student/personal use. I'd expect that usage is lower than that in businesses. I am still thinking about the issue about saving money, which I think is high on many goverment/departmental lists right now. Something we can use to make a slight push in direction of free software independent of branding. We already do that on pages like this: http://www.openoffice.org/why/why_gov.html But the general issue is that a government that is not aware of OpenOffice will not find *anything* that we have on our website. You need to get material to where they are reading. Regards, -Rob rgds jan I. -Rob rgds jan I. louis - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New record download day
On 09/10/2013 Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: Is there any chance to improve options of getting data about downloads? For example, I want to know (for example) how much copies were downloaded for AOO 4.0.1 Serbian pack , in some (from - to) period? Rob's scripts use some additional filtering meant, for example, to count only the main installations and not language packs. But you can play with the statistics at http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/stats/timeline (change file allows you to select a specific directory, the map has downloads by geographical area, or by Internet Countries, i.e., top-level domains such as .de, .fr...) Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New record download day
On 09.10.2013 01:32, Vladislav Stevanovic wrote: Is there any chance to improve options of getting data about downloads? For example, I want to know (for example) how much copies were downloaded for AOO 4.0.1 Serbian pack , in some (from - to) period? And how meny downloads (Serbian pack) are done from Serbia and other countries. Serbian nation lives in several countries, so analysing of this downloads data can be more accurate for me. It would be great to have somehow advance options from data analysing stored on AOO web page. Please see the statistics on the right of [1] or the location specific results in [2]. [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/sr/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/4.0.1/binaries/sr/Apache_OpenOffice_4.0.1_Win_x86_install_sr.exe/stats/map One criteria for inuput would be version of AOO or all version. Next filter for data analysing would be for which language pack or all packeges Next: for which platform or for all platforms Next: date (from - to); for better and faster entering of this criterion, it needs to be available release date for every version of AOO Next option: from where are downloads done (option for selecting a particular country; or option for all countries - in that case we will get list of countries and number of downloads for that count ) If we have this it means to have liberty to get all sort of data analysing about downloads in any time for all of us. Also, why are not automatically processed the current way of presenting data that is now appearing on the AOO site (about downloads) every week, it would be easier and for person who now has to prepare and publish this data manually You might want to check out SourceForge's REST API [3] to get such data [3] http://sourceforge.net/p/forge/documentation/Download%20Stats%20API/ Herbert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New record download day
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 7:32 PM, Vladislav Stevanovic stevanovicvladis...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any chance to improve options of getting data about downloads? For example, I want to know (for example) how much copies were downloaded for AOO 4.0.1 Serbian pack , in some (from - to) period? And how meny downloads (Serbian pack) are done from Serbia and other countries. Serbian nation lives in several countries, so analysing of this downloads data can be more accurate for me. It would be great to have somehow advance options from data analysing stored on AOO web page. There is some more information on these statistics here: http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html The source of the raw data is SourceForge which has a public REST API that we can query. For each of our files, or directories, we can get information like: 1) How many downloads on a given date 2) From what countries did the downloads come from 3) On what platforms did the download Also, the name of the download file tells us the AOO version, the language and platform. To automate the collection of statistics I wrote some python scripts, which you can find here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/ The main one is here: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/detail-by-day.py That gets the detailed statistics for a range of dates for a list of download files. We have another script that looks at the top countries for downloading a given file: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/devtools/aoo-stats/countries.py That might be a good way to get the country analysis you wanted. One criteria for inuput would be version of AOO or all version. Next filter for data analysing would be for which language pack or all packeges Next: for which platform or for all platforms Next: date (from - to); for better and faster entering of this criterion, it needs to be available release date for every version of AOO Next option: from where are downloads done (option for selecting a particular country; or option for all countries - in that case we will get list of countries and number of downloads for that count ) If we have this it means to have liberty to get all sort of data analysing about downloads in any time for all of us. Also, why are not automatically processed the current way of presenting data that is now appearing on the AOO site (about downloads) every week, it would be easier and for person who now has to prepare and publish this data manually The analysis is automated, but it is currently done off-line and then results uploaded. -Rob Regards, Wlada 2013/10/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Yesterday we saw 233,070 downloads of Apache OpenOffice. This broke the previous one-day download record of 213,331 set on July 29th, 2013. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New record download day
Yesterday we saw 233,070 downloads of Apache OpenOffice. This broke the previous one-day download record of 213,331 set on July 29th, 2013. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New record download day
Is there any chance to improve options of getting data about downloads? For example, I want to know (for example) how much copies were downloaded for AOO 4.0.1 Serbian pack , in some (from - to) period? And how meny downloads (Serbian pack) are done from Serbia and other countries. Serbian nation lives in several countries, so analysing of this downloads data can be more accurate for me. It would be great to have somehow advance options from data analysing stored on AOO web page. One criteria for inuput would be version of AOO or all version. Next filter for data analysing would be for which language pack or all packeges Next: for which platform or for all platforms Next: date (from - to); for better and faster entering of this criterion, it needs to be available release date for every version of AOO Next option: from where are downloads done (option for selecting a particular country; or option for all countries - in that case we will get list of countries and number of downloads for that count ) If we have this it means to have liberty to get all sort of data analysing about downloads in any time for all of us. Also, why are not automatically processed the current way of presenting data that is now appearing on the AOO site (about downloads) every week, it would be easier and for person who now has to prepare and publish this data manually Regards, Wlada 2013/10/8 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org Yesterday we saw 233,070 downloads of Apache OpenOffice. This broke the previous one-day download record of 213,331 set on July 29th, 2013. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
New record download day for AOO
Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO. This breaks our previous one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012. -Rob - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: New record download day for AOO
On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 6:07 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO. This breaks our previous one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012. -Rob AMAZING! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- - MzK Success is falling nine times and getting up ten. -- Jon Bon Jovi
Re: New record download day for AOO
Am 07/25/2013 03:07 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: Yesterday we saw 205,202 downloads of AOO. This breaks our previous one-day record of 197,479 which was set August 30th, 2012. Great, thanks for leting us know. Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
