Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-27 Thread Mathias Röllig

I have contacted him. (21.08.2014) No effect. :-(

Only the question where he can find a helpdesk for AOO. I directed him 
do the users forum (22.08.2014).


Seeing that he have test cases in the background of his screenshots I 
sent an email (22.08.2014) to Yuzhen Fan, because he is assigning test 
cases. No answer.


Who can stop him?

Regards, Mathias

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-27 Thread Reizinger Zoltán

2014.08.27. 13:57 keltezéssel, Mathias Röllig írta:

I have contacted him. (21.08.2014) No effect. :-(

Only the question where he can find a helpdesk for AOO. I directed him 
do the users forum (22.08.2014).


Seeing that he have test cases in the background of his screenshots I 
sent an email (22.08.2014) to Yuzhen Fan, because he is assigning test 
cases. No answer.


Who can stop him?

The time.

No Base developers here, before Apache era, only two developer worked on 
Base, mostly part time.


He raised some legitimate issue, most of them based on earlier 
decisions. They not solved them because had no developer time or 
resource, some times not worth the effort, or changes in Base form 
wrongly affects Writer, etc.
I looked around the issues, most of them legitimate behaviour, but 
nobody use it in that difficult way as he describe.
Most of the users not hurting these issues, or they can live with these 
bugs, and see them as feature.


Regards,
Zoltan


Regards, Mathias

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-27 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Bugzilla admin could have some antispam-blacklist plugin.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261326

Not sure if it has been implemented or if we have that version.

On 8/27/14, Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net wrote:
 I have contacted him. (21.08.2014) No effect. :-(

 Only the question where he can find a helpdesk for AOO. I directed him
 do the users forum (22.08.2014).

 Seeing that he have test cases in the background of his screenshots I
 sent an email (22.08.2014) to Yuzhen Fan, because he is assigning test
 cases. No answer.

 Who can stop him?

 Regards, Mathias

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

Hello!


Since a couple of days, we have plenty of reports from end-users.
Some people sent so many issues as by example: http://tinyurl.com/ker7vkj
For me, it must be posted on support forum or dedicated mailing list users@
Maybe a phrase to warn end-users will be better?


I want to close this mass mailings with the following text:

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This is the issue reporting system for Apache OpenOffice.

For help in using AOO please ask at a user forum or a user mailing list 
in your preferred language.

https://forum.openoffice.org/

If other users can confirm that you find a problem located in the 
application, every reproducible bug report is welcome.

https://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/basic_rules.html
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Can anyone correct my english? Maybe some changes/additions?

Regards, Mathias

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I dont think this is a good idea, I read a few reports and I find them
legitimately. Meaning some of those are well documented and agree that
they should be actually solved and fixed.

In the past there were complains about Bzilla not being used, and now
about being overused. I agree that if they are 'how do I do this...'
is something for support but crash reports seems to be a bit more
technical and legitimately a bug.

In the first case, I suggest to solved it, close it and send
instructions to the mailing list for further asistance.

On 8/21/14, Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello!

 Since a couple of days, we have plenty of reports from end-users.
 Some people sent so many issues as by example: http://tinyurl.com/ker7vkj
 For me, it must be posted on support forum or dedicated mailing list
 users@
 Maybe a phrase to warn end-users will be better?

 I want to close this mass mailings with the following text:

 --
 This is the issue reporting system for Apache OpenOffice.

 For help in using AOO please ask at a user forum or a user mailing list
 in your preferred language.
 https://forum.openoffice.org/

 If other users can confirm that you find a problem located in the
 application, every reproducible bug report is welcome.
 https://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/basic_rules.html
 --


 Can anyone correct my english? Maybe some changes/additions?

 Regards, Mathias

 PS: Please have also a look at my e-mail Link to oooforum.

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
After going through those bugs seems this is a specific user
qualke...@outlook.com seems he is doing intense QA job to build the
report however it seems he is either not entirely proficient with the
Base program or his installation has some serious issues. AFAIK I
couldnt replicate any of his claims, I would add duplicate to many of
these bugs. Seems this is an isolated issue as opposed to a complete
deisgn flaw on our documentation.

On 8/21/14, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 I dont think this is a good idea, I read a few reports and I find them
 legitimately. Meaning some of those are well documented and agree that
 they should be actually solved and fixed.

 In the past there were complains about Bzilla not being used, and now
 about being overused. I agree that if they are 'how do I do this...'
 is something for support but crash reports seems to be a bit more
 technical and legitimately a bug.

 In the first case, I suggest to solved it, close it and send
 instructions to the mailing list for further asistance.

 On 8/21/14, Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net wrote:
 Hello!

 Since a couple of days, we have plenty of reports from end-users.
 Some people sent so many issues as by example:
 http://tinyurl.com/ker7vkj
 For me, it must be posted on support forum or dedicated mailing list
 users@
 Maybe a phrase to warn end-users will be better?

 I want to close this mass mailings with the following text:

 --
 This is the issue reporting system for Apache OpenOffice.

 For help in using AOO please ask at a user forum or a user mailing list
 in your preferred language.
 https://forum.openoffice.org/

 If other users can confirm that you find a problem located in the
 application, every reproducible bug report is welcome.
 https://www.openoffice.org/qa/issue_handling/basic_rules.html
 --


 Can anyone correct my english? Maybe some changes/additions?

 Regards, Mathias

 PS: Please have also a look at my e-mail Link to oooforum.

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Mathias Röllig

On 8/21/14, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:

I dont think this is a good idea, I read a few reports and I find them
legitimately. Meaning some of those are well documented and agree that
they should be actually solved and fixed.


I've looked into his issues. He simply don't know what he is doing in 
Base. That has nothing to do with QA!


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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-21 Thread Alexandro Colorado
Maybe would be better to contact him directly to his email as opposed
to go issue by issue posting the same message.

On 8/21/14, Mathias Röllig mroellig.n...@gmx.net wrote:
 On 8/21/14, Alexandro Colorado j...@oooes.org wrote:
 I dont think this is a good idea, I read a few reports and I find them
 legitimately. Meaning some of those are well documented and agree that
 they should be actually solved and fixed.

 I've looked into his issues. He simply don't know what he is doing in
 Base. That has nothing to do with QA!

 Regards, Mathias

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Re: Bugzilla and help users

2014-08-19 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 7:02 AM, FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr wrote:

 Hello list,

 Since a couple of days, we have plenty of reports from end-users.
 Some people sent so many issues as by example: http://tinyurl.com/ker7vkj
 For me, it must be posted on support forum or dedicated mailing list users@
 Maybe a phrase to warn end-users will be better?


I've noticed this too. We need to review instructions (maybe the contact
link on the website?) for why so many are taking the BZ approach instead of
users or the forums.



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