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Just realised I forgot to mention we have removed that in the very same day. Thanks for heads up. Roberto 2014-12-09 15:44 GMT+01:00 FR web forum ooofo...@free.fr: See today: http://hpics.li/5e52083 This ad go to h**p://maribiz.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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See today: http://hpics.li/5e52083 This ad go to h**p://maribiz.net - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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2014-11-21 7:55 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com: On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor we would allow them to do that. Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and that's where the problem comes from. Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame. I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online adverts network. I was just providing some context, we are responsible for what is displayed on our site, no matter how ads get there. I'm happy to tell you that our AdOps have been doing a great job over the last days, identifying new approaches that so far are working fine. We're reviewing daily what is displayed on openoffice pages and we'll keep a close eye on this matter. Thanks, Roberto FC
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2014-11-19 19:00 GMT+01:00 Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Bernard Marcelly marce...@club-internet.fr wrote: I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker. When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in french) : Searching for OpenOffice latest version Download button And then the Conditions : chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse 2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido This has been removed yesterday, couple of hours after I've read this. IMHO this needs to stop. It should be something as simple as a section in the SourceForge terms of service for its advertisers banning adverts that impersonate or mention FOSS projects hosted on sourceforge.net, maybe adding something about deceptive advertising or deceptive clicking. Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor we would allow them to do that. Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and that's where the problem comes from. This week we removed three deceptive ads coming that way, but since those advertising networks do not provide much control over the type/content of displayed ads. We're now talking to their accounts to identify a better approach. I mean it´s one thing to offer an OpenOffice add-on and another entirely to offer an AOO download from an external site. If SourceForge doesn´t put an end to this, they´re willing accomplices and are hurting AOO with full knowledge. I can tell that from our GM down fixing this is a top priority, as usual I'll let facts talk. Roberto Just my $0.02 FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
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On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:04 AM, Roberto Galoppini roberto.galopp...@gmail.com wrote: Actually none of our direct advertisers ask us to deliver similar ads, nor we would allow them to do that. Unfortunately advertising networks like Google allow that to happen, and that's where the problem comes from. Thanks for the info. At least we know who to blame. I wrote the above under the assumption that Sourceforge ran its own online adverts network. FC
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Hello again, Two days later the questionable ads are still there, with a variant. I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker. When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in french) : Searching for OpenOffice latest version Download button And then the Conditions : chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse 2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido chapter 1. Service Premium : Les frais de service s'élèvera à 4.50 Eur par code + prix sms. SourceForge intentionally delays the real download by 5 seconds, letting the abused surfer the time to click on a paying service which has IMHO unacceptable conditions (read them). Please, reply directly to the mailing list, not me, else the thread does not appear on archivers GMane and Mail Archive. Bernard Date: Nov 17, 2014 9:11:38 am List: org.apache.incubator.ooo-dev The above mentioned ads has been removed from the catalog, it will disappear in the next hour. Sorry for the inconvenience, I've asked our AdOps team to put a tighter control on ads. Roberto - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
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On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Bernard Marcelly marce...@club-internet.fr wrote: I see a blue square indicated : updatechecker. When I click it I get another panel from http://www.marbiz.net saying (in french) : Searching for OpenOffice latest version Download button And then the Conditions : chapter 0. Objet: services offered by FULLTIME NETWORKS LIMITED., adresse 2 Martin House, 179-181 North End Road, Londres W14 9NL, Reino Unido IMHO this needs to stop. It should be something as simple as a section in the SourceForge terms of service for its advertisers banning adverts that impersonate or mention FOSS projects hosted on sourceforge.net, maybe adding something about deceptive advertising or deceptive clicking. I mean it´s one thing to offer an OpenOffice add-on and another entirely to offer an AOO download from an external site. If SourceForge doesn´t put an end to this, they´re willing accomplices and are hurting AOO with full knowledge. Just my $0.02 FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell
