Re: proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
On 02/09/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. It should work the other way round: someone who does have the skills to fully mentor a non-trivial project proposes it. Then other community members can surely step in and help, but proposing a project that relies on someone else doing (a crucial part of the) work is not the optimal situation. That said, it is surely better than nothing. You/we can also look, in the archives, at the several lists of possible projects we discussed or prepared for Summer of Code or similar initiatives: most of them remained vague proposals, stopped before we could have someone really competent to evaluate them also in terms of effort. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/09/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. It should work the other way round: someone who does have the skills to fully mentor a non-trivial project proposes it. Then other community members can surely step in and help, but proposing a project that relies on someone else doing (a crucial part of the) work is not the optimal situation. That said, it is surely better than nothing. Well perhaps I didn't express this well. I could surely write up the specs, dependencies, for this and point the students to the specific code areas to make this happen. But since I am not on a debian-based platform, or Ubuntu as they are, I would not be able to help much with system specific problems. You/we can also look, in the archives, at the several lists of possible projects we discussed or prepared for Summer of Code or similar initiatives: most of them remained vague proposals, stopped before we could have someone really competent to evaluate them also in terms of effort. Regards, Andrea. I understand. This is not a vague proposal but you make good points in any case. -- - MzK Nothing will work unless you do. -- Maya Angelou
Re: proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
Alexandro said,I am not sure how hard would that be but you can easily setup an environment using a virtualbox with whatever os you need (debian, suse, fedora, or... gulp... windows) and just compile there. what I think is, creating a virtual machine with Ubuntu OS, downloading the source are easier tasks; but compiling is not, depending upon the number of issues you face with while building for KDE, and on the experience of the developer.I too agree with you as to how hard would that be thanks, Amali. On Wednesday, 3 September 2014, 1:55, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/09/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. It should work the other way round: someone who does have the skills to fully mentor a non-trivial project proposes it. Then other community members can surely step in and help, but proposing a project that relies on someone else doing (a crucial part of the) work is not the optimal situation. That said, it is surely better than nothing. Well perhaps I didn't express this well. I could surely write up the specs, dependencies, for this and point the students to the specific code areas to make this happen. But since I am not on a debian-based platform, or Ubuntu as they are, I would not be able to help much with system specific problems. You/we can also look, in the archives, at the several lists of possible projects we discussed or prepared for Summer of Code or similar initiatives: most of them remained vague proposals, stopped before we could have someone really competent to evaluate them also in terms of effort. Regards, Andrea. I understand. This is not a vague proposal but you make good points in any case. -- - MzK Nothing will work unless you do. -- Maya Angelou
Re: proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
On 09/02/2014 05:02 PM, Amali Praveena Soban Kumar wrote: Alexandro said,I am not sure how hard would that be but you can easily setup an environment using a virtualbox with whatever os you need (debian, suse, fedora, or... gulp... windows) and just compile there. what I think is, creating a virtual machine with Ubuntu OS, downloading the source are easier tasks; but compiling is not, depending upon the number of issues you face with while building for KDE, and on the experience of the developer.I too agree with you as to how hard would that be thanks, Amali. Just a quick note from me on this. I really don't have the hardware or time to setup an additional VM to help with the student project. But, thanks for the suggestion. On Wednesday, 3 September 2014, 1:55, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 11:55 PM, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@apache.org wrote: On 02/09/2014 Kay Schenk wrote: Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. It should work the other way round: someone who does have the skills to fully mentor a non-trivial project proposes it. Then other community members can surely step in and help, but proposing a project that relies on someone else doing (a crucial part of the) work is not the optimal situation. That said, it is surely better than nothing. Well perhaps I didn't express this well. I could surely write up the specs, dependencies, for this and point the students to the specific code areas to make this happen. But since I am not on a debian-based platform, or Ubuntu as they are, I would not be able to help much with system specific problems. You/we can also look, in the archives, at the several lists of possible projects we discussed or prepared for Summer of Code or similar initiatives: most of them remained vague proposals, stopped before we could have someone really competent to evaluate them also in terms of effort. Regards, Andrea. I understand. This is not a vague proposal but you make good points in any case. -- - MzK Nothing will work unless you do. -- Maya Angelou - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
OpenOffice has been approached by students for a one semester project (approximately 96 hours) involving an open source project, see the following thread-- http://markmail.org/message/2uxfdm2tjh7ei2zl They are using Ubuntu. Recently, we had a post regarding broken desktop integration for debian. See this thread at: http://markmail.org/message/t5i57kr4z4bfffyp After reading this one, I started some research on why/how to integrate freedesktop.org into debian (a system I personally do not use). Not using a debian-based Linux distro, it never occurred to me that only one desktop integration was provided for debian. Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. Thoughts? -- - MzK Nothing will work unless you do. -- Maya Angelou - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: proposed student project? freedesktop.org desktop integration for debian
I am not sure how hard would that be but you can easily setup an environment using a virtualbox with whatever os you need (debian, suse, fedora, or... gulp... windows) and just compile there. Sure virtual environments are not the best location to do your compilation, however it will get you the basic toolkit set and version that you need. Another more sofisticated option is to use vagrant. Vagrant is aimed for developers that want to have an encapsulating environment, and portable (able to move it between different distros). It does uses virtualization but in a different fashion. http://www.vagrantup.com/ On 9/1/14, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: OpenOffice has been approached by students for a one semester project (approximately 96 hours) involving an open source project, see the following thread-- http://markmail.org/message/2uxfdm2tjh7ei2zl They are using Ubuntu. Recently, we had a post regarding broken desktop integration for debian. See this thread at: http://markmail.org/message/t5i57kr4z4bfffyp After reading this one, I started some research on why/how to integrate freedesktop.org into debian (a system I personally do not use). Not using a debian-based Linux distro, it never occurred to me that only one desktop integration was provided for debian. Would it be beneficial to have the students work on freedesktop integration for our debian builds? I would prepare an issue with pertinent details as far as I am able , but would rely on some of our debian-based developers to fill in some pieces. Thoughts? -- - MzK Nothing will work unless you do. -- Maya Angelou - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org -- Alexandro Colorado Apache OpenOffice Contributor 882C 4389 3C27 E8DF 41B9 5C4C 1DB7 9D1C 7F4C 2614 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@openoffice.apache.org
