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Re: [Homepage] Download count at 211,000,000+

2017-04-02 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Marcus,

Time to update the ApacheCon graphic? ;-)

BTW: Download count at 213,000,000+
At 225,000,000+ I will do a new graphic for the homepage...

Matthias


Am 14.03.2017 um 23:34 schrieb Marcus:
> Am 14.03.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>> I completed the stats pages. Please have a look.
>
> thanks for the blue color. IMHO it looks nicer now.
>
>> Additionally I wanted to introduce my alternative graphic for the
>> ApacheCon North America:
>>
>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/apachecon_na_2017.png
>>
>>
>> Opinions?
>
> Looks good. But please let some space for others to show their work
> also. ;-)
>
> What about to exchange the graphic beginning of April? Then it's
> visible for the next 6 weeks until the event begins.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> Am 13.03.2017 um 21:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Thanks, I will ask them if they can update the Open Hub stats...
>>>
>>> In the meantime I began to modify the pages.
>>>
>>> And maybe I get new translations for the Korean page for the
>>> weekend. ;-)
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 13.03.2017 um 19:21 schrieb Marcus:
 Am 11.03.2017 um 19:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
> Does anyone know about the "Open Hub" account (formerly "Ohloh")
> which
> is used for the stats on this page:
>
> https://www.openoffice.org/stats/
>
> They were last updated in May 2016.
 IMHO Ariel und Jim should have an account for Open Hub.

 HTH

 Marcus



> Am 10.03.2017 um 20:55 schrieb Marcus:
>> Am 10.03.2017 um 08:54 schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
>>> Big +1.
>> absolutely
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2017-03-09 20:59 GMT+01:00 Matthias Seidel
>>> :
>>>
 Hi Roberto, Hi Marcus,

 Please have a look:

 http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads-test.html

 If the colours are OK I would take them also for the other graphs.

 Regards, Matthias


 Am 09.03.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Roberto Galoppini:
> Matthias it looks great, really!
>
> I fully agree on Markus' suggestions.
>
> Roberto
>
> On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 at 23:54, Matthias Seidel
> 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Marcus,
>>
>> Good idea!
>>
>> I could modify the test page tomorrow...
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>>
>> Am 08.03.2017 um 23:22 schrieb Marcus:
>>> Maybe it's also good to change the focus, so first the
>>> graphs and
>>> below them the text. As the most interesting part is - of
>>> course
>>> - the
>>> numbers and not the explaining text I would see this as another
>>> improvement. So, you can see the numbers without the need to
>>> scroll.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>
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Re: Buildbots page

2017-04-02 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi,

"All this work" took me about 30 minutes... ;-)

But the script has not been updated for years and the page is totally
outdated.
Feel free to maintain it.

Regards, Matthias


Am 02.04.2017 um 02:58 schrieb Gavin McDonald:
> I have no idea why you have been doing all this work, the old scripts have 
> been working fine 
> and can be updated in svn for the template parts and git for the sh script.
>
> Gav…
>
>> On 2 Apr 2017, at 6:52 am, Matthias Seidel  
>> wrote:
>>
>> If no one has objections I would make :
>>
>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds-test.html
>>
>> live tomorrow and ask Infra to remove the script, page and artefacts of:
>>
>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/index.html
>>
>> Regards, Matthias
>>
>> FYI: I changed the schedule of the snapshot builds (414 branch) to a
>> weekly base.
>>
>>
>> Am 28.03.2017 um 21:15 schrieb Matthias Seidel:
>>> Am 28.03.2017 um 01:55 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
 It might have changed...
>>> Indeed (from:
>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos//infra/infrastructure/buildbot/aegis/buildmaster/master1/public_html/README_SCRIPTS.txt):
>>>
>>> Index generation scripts
>>> 
>>>
>>> Note:
>>> The shell scripts which generate the nightly and snapshot indexes have been 
>>> moved to puppet.
>>>
>>> See the directory:
>>>
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=infrastructure-puppet.git;a=tree;f=modules/buildbot_asf/files/projects;hb=HEAD
>>>
>>> The cron jobs are defined in
>>>
>>> https://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf?p=infrastructure-puppet.git;a=blob_plain;f=modules/buildbot_asf/manifests/init.pp;hb=HEAD
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately only the script has been moved, but not the header, footer
>>> and css. Therefore the page can not be updated properly.
>>> The script itself generates links to AOO 4.1.2 snapshots and needs also
>>> to be changed.
>>>
>>> Instead of trying to fix the generated page I would suggest to link
>>> directly to nightlys/snapshots from our devbuilds homepage:
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds.html
>>>
>>> I created a test page as example:
>>> https://www.openoffice.org/download/devbuilds-test.html
>>>
>>> Opinions?
>>>
>>> Kind regards, Matthias
>>>
 On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Matthias Seidel <
 matthias.sei...@hamburg.de> wrote:

> Hi Damjan,
>
> Thanks you for the link, but in:
>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/
> aegis/buildmaster/master1/public_html/projects/openoffice/
>
> I can only find header, footer and CSS but no script?
>
> Regards, Matthias
>
>
> Am 27.03.2017 um 18:25 schrieb Damjan Jovanovic:
>> It's generated from:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/buildbot/
> aegis/buildmaster/master1/public_html/projects/openoffice/create-ooo-
> snapshots-index.sh
>> Regards
>> Damjan
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Matthias Seidel <
> matthias.sei...@hamburg.de
>>> wrote:
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> Is there a way to maintain our Buildbots page?
>>>
>>> https://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/index.html
>>>
>>> Regards, Matthias
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)

2017-04-02 Thread Matthias Seidel

Hi Andrea,

Thanks for the clarification!

I found this page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds

"The builds linked on this page are intended to be used for *final
testing* of release candidates by community volunteers."

But the "Buildbot output area" links to a page with snapshots for AOO
4.1.2. Not really helpful...

At least the Linux Buildbots are working again. Hopefully someone is
working on the Windows Buildbots after the migration to Win10/64bit.

Regards, Matthias


Am 01.04.2017 um 00:08 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> On 30/03/2017 Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> Unfortunately there is no location for RC described in our cWiki:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release
>>
>> Definitely a point that should be added...
>
> This is one of the processes where OpenOffice simply behaves as a
> normal Apache project. Release Candidates (please note: ONLY Release
> Candidates) should be uploaded to SVN following the normal process
> outlined at http://www.apache.org/dev/release-publishing.html
>
> This means that Release Candidates for OpenOffice should go here:
> https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/openoffice/
>
> There are two reasons, though, for us NOT uploading the normal dev
> builds (those that are not meant to be voted upon; of course 4.1.4 is
> not at RC stage) there:
> 1. Uploading dozens of GBytes to SVN is really painful
> 2. Since SVN stores (on the server) the history of all files, this
> would be heavy on the SVN server
>
> So we've traditionally hosted the normal dev builds (before RC) on
> people.apache.org; but Infra decided to replace it with 
> home.apache.org and to make it SFTP-only (no rsync); still, it is
> possible, while still painful, to upload an OpenOffice development
> snapshot there; see
> https://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.3-dev-r1761989/binaries/
> as an example.
>
> Which in short means: before RC, use a personal space to share builds,
> home.apache.org being the most "politically correct" option (even
> though from a technical point of view there are no advantages in using
> it rather than a personal web space).
>
> Feel free to include this information in the wiki pages if needed.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)

2017-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti


Matthias Seidel wrote:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
"The builds linked on this page are intended to be used for *final
testing* of release candidates by community volunteers."
But the "Buildbot output area" links to a page with snapshots for AOO
4.1.2. Not really helpful...


That's wrong. Well, there is a long story behind this all, but in short:

- Under Apache guidelines, dev builds should not be exposed to the 
generic public, which means that a web page with the builds should not 
be on the openoffice.org domain unless we are sure that people 
understand that these are dev builds only (this also refers to the other 
URL you sent).


- We managed to clarify the above, but still in the meantime we had 
taken the habit to use the wiki page you found as a set of links to dev 
builds.


- In the meantime, the new Infra convention of using the dev space in 
SVN for RCs was instated, and this left us without a "canonical" space 
for the ordinary dev builds - not the buildbots output but builds like 
the ones Jim did and that I am currently doing as a "snapshot" of the 
AOO414 branch.


I'm for deleting all unnecessary pages and resources.


At least the Linux Buildbots are working again. Hopefully someone is
working on the Windows Buildbots after the migration to Win10/64bit.


Thank you for your work on the Linux bots! And yes, working buildbots 
are not essential for a release but it would be good to see them work again.


Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)

2017-04-02 Thread Matthias Seidel

Am 02.04.2017 um 14:52 schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Matthias Seidel wrote:
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Development+Snapshot+Builds
>>
>> "The builds linked on this page are intended to be used for *final
>> testing* of release candidates by community volunteers."
>> But the "Buildbot output area" links to a page with snapshots for AOO
>> 4.1.2. Not really helpful...
>
> That's wrong. Well, there is a long story behind this all, but in short:
>
> - Under Apache guidelines, dev builds should not be exposed to the
> generic public, which means that a web page with the builds should not
> be on the openoffice.org domain unless we are sure that people
> understand that these are dev builds only (this also refers to the
> other URL you sent).
>
> - We managed to clarify the above, but still in the meantime we had
> taken the habit to use the wiki page you found as a set of links to
> dev builds.
>
> - In the meantime, the new Infra convention of using the dev space in
> SVN for RCs was instated, and this left us without a "canonical" space
> for the ordinary dev builds - not the buildbots output but builds like
> the ones Jim did and that I am currently doing as a "snapshot" of the
> AOO414 branch.
>
> I'm for deleting all unnecessary pages and resources.

I think the whole documentation needs to be revised.
But I do not have the historical background. ;-)

>
>> At least the Linux Buildbots are working again. Hopefully someone is
>> working on the Windows Buildbots after the migration to Win10/64bit.
>
> Thank you for your work on the Linux bots! And yes, working buildbots
> are not essential for a release but it would be good to see them work
> again.

Mechtilde is pleased to have a German 4.1.4 for Linux. Now she is in
"testing mode" again! ;-)

Regards, Matthias

>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
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Re: Release 4.1.3 (4.1.4)

2017-04-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti


On 20/03/2017 Andrea Pescetti wrote:

I think I can provide
proper Linux-64 builds from the AOO414 branch matching the 4.1.3
specifications (this won't happen before end of March).


I've built the current state of the AOO414 branch (again, this is not a 
Release Candidate) for all languages for the Linux-64 platform. I've 
uploaded a few languages for testing purposes to


https://home.apache.org/~pescetti/openoffice-4.1.4-dev-1781705/

If you'd like to test a language that is not there, just let me know and 
I can upload it. Feedback welcome in general: I mean, the differences 
between 4.1.3 and the uploaded build are so small that people who know 
what they are doing could even install this one and use it for 
day-to-day tasks, for more realistic testing.



I can probably setup a VM for Linux 32-bit too, further in April.


This will need 1-2 more weeks, but the process is fully documented at

https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5

so anyone can take a look if they wish.

Regards,
  Andrea.

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Re: [Homepage] Download count at 211,000,000+

2017-04-02 Thread Marcus

Am 02.04.2017 um 11:30 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Time to update the ApacheCon graphic? ;-)

BTW: Download count at 213,000,000+
At 225,000,000+ I will do a new graphic for the homepage...

it seems you cannot await to change the graphic. So, go for it. ;-)

Marcus

Am 14.03.2017 um 23:34 schrieb Marcus:

Am 14.03.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

I completed the stats pages. Please have a look.

thanks for the blue color. IMHO it looks nicer now.

Additionally I wanted to introduce my alternative graphic for the
ApacheCon North America:

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/apachecon_na_2017.png

Opinions?

Looks good. But please let some space for others to show their work
also. ;-)

What about to exchange the graphic beginning of April? Then it's
visible for the next 6 weeks until the event begins.

Marcus

Am 13.03.2017 um 21:02 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Thanks, I will ask them if they can update the Open Hub stats...

In the meantime I began to modify the pages.

And maybe I get new translations for the Korean page for the
weekend. ;-)

Kind regards, Matthias

Am 13.03.2017 um 19:21 schrieb Marcus:

Am 11.03.2017 um 19:55 schrieb Matthias Seidel:

Does anyone know about the "Open Hub" account (formerly "Ohloh")
which
is used for the stats on this page:

https://www.openoffice.org/stats/

They were last updated in May 2016.

IMHO Ariel und Jim should have an account for Open Hub.

HTH

Marcus

Am 10.03.2017 um 20:55 schrieb Marcus:

Am 10.03.2017 um 08:54 schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

Big +1.

absolutely

Marcus

2017-03-09 20:59 GMT+01:00 Matthias Seidel
:

Hi Roberto, Hi Marcus,

Please have a look:

http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads-test.html

If the colours are OK I would take them also for the other graphs.

Regards, Matthias

Am 09.03.2017 um 13:45 schrieb Roberto Galoppini:

Matthias it looks great, really!

I fully agree on Markus' suggestions.

Roberto

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 at 23:54, Matthias Seidel

Re: Error on your web site

2017-04-02 Thread Marcus


Am 30.03.2017 um 00:39 schrieb tolle...@dltolleson.com:

I'll try to to explain myself better.  It is a recommendation to further
change the same sentence.

This first part is fine...
"Write new or improve existing documentation"

But this second part doesn't make sense in English...
"...also with technical topics"

Here are two options to fix it (pick whichever one is correct):

Option 1:
"*Using technical topics, write new or improve existing documentation*"

(This means a person will look at technical things in order to write what
is needed)

*OR*

Option 2:
"*Write new or improve existing documentation and about technical topics*"

(In English usage, a person can write technical topics, but it more
acceptable to say that a person writes ABOUT technical topics. So, option 2
above means a person will write or improve documentation and will also
write ABOUT things that are technical.)

I hope that is easier to understand. If you have any questions, feel free
to ask. I am a writer.


thanks for your corrections. I've changed the text.

Marcus




On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 4:45 PM, Marcus  wrote:


Am 29.03.2017 um 20:58 schrieb tolle...@dltolleson.com:


Thanks for letting me know.

I would point out, [...]



I'm confused. Is this just a further comment on the sentence in question?
Or do you want to suggest a further change? If the later one, then I've not
understood what you want to express.

Maybe t's because I'm not a native speaker. ;-)

Thanks

Marcus



On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 12:55 PM,

> wrote:

Am 29.03.2017 um 16:24 schrieb tolle...@dltolleson.com
:

Just wanted to bring your attention an error on the OpenOffice
web site.

The error is on this page...



https://openoffice.apache.org/get-involved.html


The error is under the heading, "A multidisciplinary open source
project"
and is the second item in the list of people that your
organization is
looking for.

The text at issue now reads...
• Write or existing documentation, also with technical topics

I would suggest using one of the following...

• Write on existing documentation and technical topics
Or
• Rewrite existing documentation and technical topics

Or my personal favorite...
• Improve existing documentation and technical topics

You guys have a great product and I hope this helps in a small
way,


thanks for your hint. To keep the change minimal I've changed it in
the following way:

"Write new or improve existing documentation, also with technical
topics"

Marcus



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