[dev] interested in joining you

2009-11-18 Thread Ranjeet Jaiswal
Hallo sir, I am an engineering graduate from university of Allahabad.
Interested to joining openoffice.org

Please tell me how I can start with you.





  

Re: [dev] interested in joining you

2009-11-18 Thread bjoern michaelsen - Sun Microsystems - Hamburg Germany
On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 19:56:42 -0800 (PST)
Ranjeet Jaiswal jaisranj...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hallo sir, I am an engineering graduate from university of Allahabad.
 Interested to joining openoffice.org
 Please tell me how I can start with you.

Welcome Ranjeet,

it depends on what tasks you want to perform. For development of OOo
itself see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Development

For development of extensions to OOo see:
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/DevGuide
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/OpenOffice_NetBeans_Integration
to get started. see:
http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/
for examples on what can be done with extensions for OOo.

Best Regards,

Bjoern Michaelsen
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Re: [dev] Library requirements (freetype2 = 2.0 ) not met . . .

2009-11-18 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 11:32:11AM -0500, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  Thank you and I think error messages should be a bit more explicit.

They are explicit enough. It's common that you need -dev for the libs.

 r...@knoppix:/media/hdb2/inst/sw/OO/source/ooxpkgs# dpkg -l | grep curl
 ii  curl 7.15.5-1etch3
  Get a file from an HTTP, HTTPS, FTP or GOPHE
 ii  libcurl3 7.15.5-1
  Multi-protocol file transfer library
 ii  libcurl3-gnutls  7.15.5-1
  Multi-protocol file transfer library

So no libcurl3-dev? (or some variant of it)? qed.

  What more curl(ing) stuff do I need?

Obviusly the curl development stuff, like we already told
you for freetype.

Grüße/Regards,

Rene

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[dev] Re: Library requirements (freetype2 = 2.0 ) not met . . .

2009-11-18 Thread Michael Stahl
On 17/11/2009 17:32, Albretch Mueller wrote:
  configure: error: install curl to run this script
 
  and I already (apparently) fixed a similar curl-config one
 
  This is what my system looks like right now:
 
 r...@knoppix:/media/hdb2/inst/sw/OO/source/ooxpkgs# dpkg -l | grep curl
 ii  libcurl3 7.15.5-1
  Multi-protocol file transfer library
 
  What more curl(ing) stuff do I need?

uhm, there really is a very simple rule for this: if configure complains
that it cannot find the foo library, and you see that you have a
libfooN package installed, then you should install a package that (on
debian or derived distros) is either named libfoo-dev or libfooN-dev.
that rule should apply at least 95% of the time.

but of course there is also a simpler way: for a lot (but not all) of
external libraries, the OOo repository already contains a copy.
you can enable those by passing --without-system-libs to configure.

if you really want to build with system libs, probably the easiest way
is something like apt-get build-dep openoffice.org (but that is
still not perfect, because it may install more or less than what your
particular configure flags on your particular source milestone require).

regards,
michael

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Re: [dev] Want to start contributing in OpenSource Community

2009-11-18 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi,

welcome, Idress Husain Mukadam!

Idrees Husain Mukadam wrote:

 Dear Sir,
 
 I am *'Idrees Husain Mukadam'*, a *Bachelor of Engineering* in I*nformation
 Technology* from Indore, *India*.
 
 I am proficient in C/C++ and JAVA. As a programmer I would also like to
 contribute in the OpenSource Community by providing my talent and zeal
 towards code development.
 
 If you find me suitable, I can help you in any area of code development.
 
 Kindly, also provide me the opportunity to work with the best minds in the
 World.

For all interested developers our wiki, especially

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Development

is the best place to start. If you have further questions, please come
back to the list.

Best regards,
Mathias

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Re: [dev] How to build OOo in Ubuntu 8.04

2009-11-18 Thread Mathias Bauer
Michael He wrote:

 Hi,
 I have get the OpenOffice.org source, but I have some problem to build it.
 This link:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_OpenOffice.org
 is not enough for me.
 Would you give me a little bit more information about how to build OOo?
 Thank you.
 yanping He

Doesn't

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_Linux
http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Build_Instructions

help? The latter is for Ubuntu 9.10 and 9.04, but perhaps is helpful for
8.04 also.

It if doesn't help, please tell us what exactly doesn't work for you.

Regards,
Mathias

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Re: [dev] Textile export filter

2009-11-18 Thread Mathias Bauer
Pavel Lastovicka wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I consider writing export filter to Textile format[1]. I need to make an 
 estimate how many hours it would take to write. Am I right that I need just 
 two filter config files for registry and a single XSLT file, similar to 
 odt2mediawiki.xsl?

In general all that an xslt based filter needs indeed is the
transformation and a configuration file. The filter either can be
integrated into OOo or be provided as an extension (that would require
some more simple files).

   By the way I tried to run odt2mediawiki.xsl via Saxon from OO.o (via 
 command 
 line, on content.xml extracted from test odt document) and the results were 
 rather different from text files created by doing export in OO.o. What did I 
 do wrong?

The content.xml does not contain the formatting information. You always
must process the whole document.

Regards,
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Re: [dev] How to build OOo in Ubuntu 8.04

2009-11-18 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi *,

On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, Michael He heyanpingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I have get the OpenOffice.org source, but I have some problem to build it.
 This link:
 http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Building_OpenOffice.org
 is not enough for me.
 Would you give me a little bit more information about how to build OOo?

It would help much more if you'd write at what step you're having problems.

ciao
Christian

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Re: [dev] Re: Library requirements (freetype2 = 2.0 ) not met . . .

2009-11-18 Thread Thorsten Behrens
Michael Stahl wrote:
   What more curl(ing) stuff do I need?
 
 uhm, there really is a very simple rule for this: if configure complains
 that it cannot find the foo library, and you see that you have a
 libfooN package installed, then you should install a package that (on
 debian or derived distros) is either named libfoo-dev or libfooN-dev.
 that rule should apply at least 95% of the time.
 
Heh. I wonder why people with virtually no build-stuff-on-linux
experience actually choose OOo as their very first project, likely
one of the hardest picks one could make.

Maybe a disclaimer like: if you've never built stuff on Linux,
please start with easy project Foo, build instructions at Bah
should be added to the build guide?

 but of course there is also a simpler way: for a lot (but not all) of
 external libraries, the OOo repository already contains a copy.
 you can enable those by passing --without-system-libs to configure.
 
I wouldn't call it simpler, if the general concept of a -dev package 
is not grokked beforehand.

Cheers,

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Re: [dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Cassio Neri
Hi Jurgen.

 ok, lets assume that OOo Calc would become viable, the issues would be fixed
 and the missing features would be implemented. What do you think would
 people really think about a shift from Excel to Calc or is it more
 hypothetical. I mean is there really interest to move to an open source
 solution with all the pro and cons to save money, to become standard based,
 to become open etc.?

 It would be really helpful to get some more insight and it helps also to
 prioritize our efforts correct.

 Juergen

The short answer is:

No, I don't see concrete moves towards open source products in the
financial markets at this moment but it's good to be prepared.

The long answer is:

In the financial markets the issue is the same you find in other
industries, namely, culture and inertia. People are used to some
products and systems and are very reluctant to change. The argument I
already know it seems to be much more powerful than all the much more
reasonable ones you have cited: cost savings, quality, openness,
standardization, ...

However, there are a few positive signs that are worth knowing.

1. Take a look at https://www.openadaptor.org/ scroll down and, at the
bottom of the page, see the copyright holder. This open-source project
was started by Dresdner Kleinwort and is still maintained by
Commerzbank (which acquired Dresdner Bank about a year ago). In the
very top of the page, click on adopters to see two other important
financial institutions listed: Abbey and Deutsche Bank.

2. Another one from Deutsche Bank (DB). It Head of IT recently gave a
web-talk about Collabnet. He praised some open source projects for the
high quality software they deliver. He said to have implemented some
open source practices in DB. I mean, their code is still proprietary
for the outside world but open inside DB. He was really satisfied with
the results (If you wish, I can try to find the web-link again.)

3. I heard once a radio interview where Red Hat's CEO said that Morgan
Stanley is one of his major clients. I don't believe all their systems
are open source, though.

4. I have the impression that in Brazil (my country of origin) open
source is much more popular than in the UK (where I live). The
Brazilian government decided to use open source products in state
offices. Once, in a visit to my local branch of Banco do Brasil (the
Brazilian state bank), I saw OOo Writer being used. The latest
economic analysis about Brazil are strongly positive. If Brazil
achieves the predictions and becomes a major economic player then the
open source culture already present there might expand as well.
(That's simply guess and hope of mine.)

Therefore, despite we have positive signs, I think there is nothing
concrete to make you change your priorities right now.

Let me tell you where I'm. I'm a quantitative analyst, as I said, in a
major German bank but my interest in open source is much older than my
current job. To be very clear, all what I'm saying is my personal
opinion. My employer has no liability, intention or whatsoever in this
matter and I have no influence or power to decide to use OOo in our
offices.

Since I joint the company 3 years ago, I started working with pricing
of financial products. My team runs sophisticated mathematical models
which often requires costly computations. Our final product is a
collection of Excel add-ins and spreadsheets. Other quantitative
analytic teams inside the bank and in other institutions develop
similar products. In particular, the add-ins share many design
features.

About 2 years ago, for research purposes, I wanted to do the same kind
of development at home. From the first moment my thought was to
replace Excel by OOo Calc (now I'm using both). As soon as my project
started to take form I was faced with the issues covered in my
previous messages. I totally agree with you that they are minor bugs
and simple enhancements. However, I stress, without having them fixed
I can't do what I do with Excel.

Addressing this issues will not garantee to OOo a better share in the
market, but not addressing them would make OOo fail in any assessment
made by a quantitative analyst regarding the possibility to replace
Excel in the daily basis job. I thought that it would be helpful to
share my experience with you guys. Then I wrote my first message.

I've reported some of the issues I'm concerned with. I do understand
that Calc developers are busy and I don't have time to address all the
issues in the bug tracker. Hence, I've  decided to hack the code to
see if I could fix the issues myself. I'm very happy with that. So
far, I worked on one issue only. I'm amazed that in a so huge project
I could rapidly spot the point where I should make the change. The
merit is rather on the clean design and well written code than on my
programming skills.

By the way, talking about skills, I forgot to properly introduce
myself appart from saying few words about my job. I've got a PhD in
Applied Mathematics in 

[dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Andreas Saeger

Cassio Neri wrote:


One intention (among others) of my previous messages was to propose a
solution for our major problem. By doing so, OOo Calc will make one
step to become a viable option for very important applications we have
in financial markets. I'm very sorry to say that currently only Excel
is viable.

Regards,
Cassio.


Well, you bankers propose solutions to let others solve your major 
problems. I'm not surprised.



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[dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Björn Michaelsen
Am Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:49:49 +0100
schrieb Andreas Saeger saege...@onlinehome.de:

 Cassio Neri wrote:
 
  One intention (among others) of my previous messages was to propose
  a solution for our major problem. By doing so, OOo Calc will make
  one step to become a viable option for very important applications
  we have in financial markets. I'm very sorry to say that currently
  only Excel is viable.
  
  Regards,
  Cassio.
 
 Well, you bankers propose solutions to let others solve your major 
 problems. I'm not surprised.

There is absolutely no reason for this ad-hominem. Financial markets
are generally a very conservative business: There are enough fake
arguments being thrown around to prevent adoption of open solutions.
This is why I find it really delightful that Cassio Neri takes his - as
I would guess _private_ time - to give us insights in the typical
usecases of a certain customer group. There is absolutely no reason to
badmouth that.

Cassio, thanks for your comments!

Best Regards,

Bjoern Michaelsen


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[dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Andreas Saeger

Björn Michaelsen wrote:


There is absolutely no reason for this ad-hominem. Financial markets
are generally a very conservative business: There are enough fake
arguments being thrown around to prevent adoption of open solutions.
This is why I find it really delightful that Cassio Neri takes his - as
I would guess _private_ time - to give us insights in the typical
usecases of a certain customer group. There is absolutely no reason to
badmouth that.

Cassio, thanks for your comments!

Best Regards,

Bjoern Michaelsen


Conservative business? What is the century you live in?

More insights in typical usecases:
http://eusprig.org/regulators-presentations.htm
http://eusprig.org/horror-stories.htm
Nobody has ever been fired for using Microsoft (and the money remains on 
the right side of the fence).



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[dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Björn Michaelsen
Am Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:43 +0100
schrieb Andreas Saeger saege...@onlinehome.de:
 [...]
 Nobody has ever been fired for using Microsoft (and the money remains
 on the right side of the fence).
Thats totally offtopic here on d...@openoffice.org. 

Best Regards,

Bjoern Michaelsen


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[dev] Re: OpenOffice Calc in the Financial Markets.

2009-11-18 Thread Andreas Saeger

Björn Michaelsen wrote:

Am Wed, 18 Nov 2009 23:12:43 +0100
schrieb Andreas Saeger saege...@onlinehome.de:

[...]
Nobody has ever been fired for using Microsoft (and the money remains
on the right side of the fence).
Thats totally offtopic here on d...@openoffice.org. 


Best Regards,

Bjoern Michaelsen


They expect OOo to be API-compatible with MS Excel.


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[dev] Build with Ubuntu 9.10

2009-11-18 Thread Zhu Lihua
Hi all,

I'm trying to build under ubuntu 9.10.

After:
./configure  --disable-odk --with-lang=zh-CN --disable-build-mozilla
./bootstrap
build --all

It stopped at module soltools:

mkout -- version: 1.8
--
Making: ../unxlngi6.pro/obj/cppsetup.obj
gcc -fmessage-length=0 -c -Os -fno-strict-aliasing   -I.  
-I../unxlngi6.pro/inc/make_makedepend -I../inc -I../inc/pch -I../inc 
-I../unx/inc -I../unxlngi6.pro/inc -I. 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solver/300/unxlngi6.pro/incdont_use_stl
 -I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solver/300/unxlngi6.pro/inc/external 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solver/300/unxlngi6.pro/inc 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solenv/unxlngi6/inc 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solenv/inc 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/res 
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solver/300/unxlngi6.pro/incdont_use_stl
 -I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solenv/inc/Xp31 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include -I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include/linux 
-I/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/include/native_threads/include -I/usr/include  
-I/media/source/RO45-OTH-M30-TestControl/solver/300/unxlngi6.pro/inc/offuh -I. 
-I../res -I. -pipe -mtune=pentiumpro -Wall -Wextra -Wendif-labels  -DLINUX 
-DUNX -DVCL -DGCC -DC341 -DINTEL -DCVER=C341 -DNPTL -DGLIBC=2 -DX86 -D_PTHREADS 
-D_REENTRANT -DNEW_SOLAR -D_USE_NAMESPACE=1 -DSTLPORT_VERSION=400 
-DHAVE_GCC_VISIBILITY_FEATURE -D__DMAKE -DUNIX -DCPPU_ENV=gcc3 
-DGXX_INCLUDE_PATH=/usr/include/c++/4.4 -DSUPD=300 -DPRODUCT -DNDEBUG 
-DPRODUCT_FULL -DOSL_DEBUG_LEVEL=0 -DOPTIMIZE -DCUI -DSOLAR_JAVA   -DNO_X11 
-DXP_PC -DHW_THREADS-o ../unxlngi6.pro/obj/cppsetup.o cppsetup.c
In file included from cppsetup.c:29:
def.h:157: error: conflicting types for 'getline'
/usr/include/stdio.h:651: note: previous declaration of 'getline' was here
cppsetup.c: In function '_my_if_errors':
cppsetup.c:122: warning: unused parameter 'ip'
cppsetup.c:123: warning: unused parameter 'cp'
cppsetup.c:124: warning: unused parameter 'expecting'
cppsetup.c: In function '_lookup_variable':
cppsetup.c:159: warning: unused variable 'pd'
dmake:  Error code 1, while making '../unxlngi6.pro/obj/cppsetup.obj'


In file mkdepend/def.h:157
char*getline();

But in file /usr/include/stdio.h:651
extern _IO_ssize_t getline (char **__restrict __lineptr,
size_t *__restrict __n,
FILE *__restrict __stream) __wur;

Why this happened? And why this not happend before?

Thank you very much.

Best regards,
Lihua



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[dev] OO Dialog sizes - MapAppFont

2009-11-18 Thread Oliver Brinzing
Hi,

can one give me a hint how to solve this problem ?

OO uses MapAppFont metric for dialogs created with the basic ide editor.

We are using different window styles for screen resolutions 1024x768
and 1280x1024. The styles use different font sizes too - this seems to be 
the, problems cause MapAppFont calculates with the font sizes ... Due to 
our ergonomic specifications we cannot adjust the styles to our needs.

So OO will change the size of all dialogs when used with different styles.
In out case a dialog created with the style for 1024x768 resolution appears 
about 25% to 28% bigger when displayed with the 1280x1024 style.

On the other side resetting the style to windows default will make the dialog 
to small, using other screen resolutions (e.g. for wide screen 16:10 or 16:9) 
will cause problems too.

So is there a way to adjust the dialog size ?
And how does oo convert from MapAppFonts to pixels ?


Oliver





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Re: [dev] OO Dialog sizes - MapAppFont

2009-11-18 Thread Frank Schoenheit, Sun Microsystems Germany
Hi Oliver,

 And how does oo convert from MapAppFonts to pixels ?

css.awt.XUnitConversion should allow this. The existing documentation at
http://api.openoffice.org/docs/common/ref/com/sun/star/awt/XUnitConversion.html
is somewhat sprase, this improved in the 3.2 version, which is not yet
online (but if you have an OOo build somewhere, you'd find it in the odk
module). The main point missing in the online doc is that you need to
pass css.util.MeasureUnits to the various methods. MeasureUnit.APPFONT
probably is what you'd need.

The interface is implemented by all view objects, i.e. the dialog itself
(not the dialog model) and the controls therein (not the control models).

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Re: [dev] Build with Ubuntu 9.10

2009-11-18 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi,

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:24:55AM +0800, Zhu Lihua wrote:
 In file mkdepend/def.h:157
 char  *getline();
 
 But in file /usr/include/stdio.h:651
 extern _IO_ssize_t getline (char **__restrict __lineptr,
 size_t *__restrict __n,
 FILE *__restrict __stream) __wur;
 
 Why this happened?

Becausse there is a copnflict with that getline and glibcs.
As the error says:

[...]
def.h:157: error: conflicting types for 'getline'   
/usr/include/stdio.h:651: note: previous declaration of 'getline' was here 
[...]

 And why this not happend before?

because you eithere upgraded your system or reinstalled a new version
and it gets a new glibc. OOo 3.1.1 does not build with it because of
the above.

Workaround: 
http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ooo-build/ooo-build/tree/patches/dev300/soltools-mkdepend-getline.diff?h=ooo-build-3-1-1
(afaik upstream too already, but of course not for 3.1.1 because it
was dfound after the release...)

Grüße/Regards,

Rene

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