Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread KAMI

Hi Christian!

With the lower level of standards, DejaVu fonts are much better than 
Bitsteram for many languages. For example: Bitstream is unusable for 
Hungarian language, because it misses some chars. I read the linked 
dicussion and no one told that there was a problem under OpenOffice.org.


KAMI
Christian Lohmaier írta:

Hi Kami, *,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:03:00PM +0200, KAMI wrote:
  

Hello Gurus!
Anyone would be so kind to include our 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the 
default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS? The 
[...]



DejaVu seems to have lowered their standards...
This blog-entry basically summarizes the topic:
http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=104

ciao
Christian
  




Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread KAMI

http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News

Changes from 2.4 to 2.5 (April 16, 2006)

   * fixed excessive kerning bug that occurs with Pango (by Denis 
Jacquerye)


KAMI

Christian Lohmaier írta:

Hi Kami, *,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:03:00PM +0200, KAMI wrote:
  

Hello Gurus!
Anyone would be so kind to include our 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the 
default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS? The 
[...]



DejaVu seems to have lowered their standards...
This blog-entry basically summarizes the topic:
http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=104

ciao
Christian
  




Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread Charles Schulz
Hi,

let's not forget the Gentium fonts from the SIL

Best,
Charles.

KAMI a écrit :
 Hi Christian!

 With the lower level of standards, DejaVu fonts are much better than
 Bitsteram for many languages. For example: Bitstream is unusable for
 Hungarian language, because it misses some chars. I read the linked
 dicussion and no one told that there was a problem under OpenOffice.org.

 KAMI
 Christian Lohmaier írta:
 Hi Kami, *,

 On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:03:00PM +0200, KAMI wrote:
  
 Hello Gurus!
 Anyone would be so kind to include our
 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the
 default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS?
 The [...]
 

 DejaVu seems to have lowered their standards...
 This blog-entry basically summarizes the topic:
 http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=104

 ciao
 Christian
   



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Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread Christian Lohmaier
On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:23:31AM +0200, KAMI wrote:
 http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News
 
 Changes from 2.4 to 2.5 (April 16, 2006)
 
* fixed excessive kerning bug that occurs with Pango (by Denis 
 Jacquerye)

The kerning thing is just a symptom of the integrate-everything thing.

The problem is that the letter that are added to DejaVu don't match the
quality or style of the first ones. So it blows up the font with glyphs
that don't look good.

Sure, DejaVu does include more glyphs and should work fine for at least
european languages, but that's all.

I'm not saying that DejaVu won't be an improvement, it is just not as
good as it could be

ciao
Christian
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Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread KAMI

Hello!

I am started to investigating the Gentium fonts yesterday. It looks 
promising, what do you advice, what we have to do?


KAMI
Charles Schulz írta:

Hi,

let's not forget the Gentium fonts from the SIL

Best,
Charles.

KAMI a écrit :
  

Hi Christian!

With the lower level of standards, DejaVu fonts are much better than
Bitsteram for many languages. For example: Bitstream is unusable for
Hungarian language, because it misses some chars. I read the linked
dicussion and no one told that there was a problem under OpenOffice.org.

KAMI
Christian Lohmaier írta:


Hi Kami, *,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:03:00PM +0200, KAMI wrote:
 
  

Hello Gurus!
Anyone would be so kind to include our
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the
default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS?
The [...]



DejaVu seems to have lowered their standards...
This blog-entry basically summarizes the topic:
http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=104

ciao
Christian
  
  



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Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-13 Thread KAMI

Christian Lohmaier írta:

On Thu, Jul 13, 2006 at 09:23:31AM +0200, KAMI wrote:
  

http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/News

Changes from 2.4 to 2.5 (April 16, 2006)

   * fixed excessive kerning bug that occurs with Pango (by Denis 
Jacquerye)



The kerning thing is just a symptom of the integrate-everything thing.

The problem is that the letter that are added to DejaVu don't match the
quality or style of the first ones. So it blows up the font with glyphs
that don't look good.

Sure, DejaVu does include more glyphs and should work fine for at least
european languages, but that's all.

I'm not saying that DejaVu won't be an improvement, it is just not as
good as it could be
  
Look, I think small improvment is one step forward. The font is under 
developmemnt, we can help them with work, ideas, etc.. Why should we 
leave this project alone. If we need fonts other language than European 
languages we can integrate font for  that language specially. DejaVu is 
much better for Hungarian and other Central European langueges.

ciao
Christian
  


Szia,
KAMI


[dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-12 Thread KAMI

Hello Gurus!
Anyone would be so kind to include our 
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the 
default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS? The 
patches are ready, and we tested in our builds:

ftp://ftp.fsf.hu/OpenOffice.org_hu/devel/OOC680_m7/
and also in OpenOffice.org Premiium:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=170021

Many thanks,
KAMI

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Re: [dev] DejaVu integration in 2.0.4

2006-07-12 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Kami, *,

On Wed, Jul 12, 2006 at 07:03:00PM +0200, KAMI wrote:
 Hello Gurus!
 Anyone would be so kind to include our 
 http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=59853  (Replace the 
 default BitStream Vera font with DejaVu) issue in his very own CWS? The 
 [...]

DejaVu seems to have lowered their standards...
This blog-entry basically summarizes the topic:
http://www.advogato.org/person/roozbeh/diary.html?start=104

ciao
Christian
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NP: Jono Bacon - Free The Free

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