Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-18 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg

Hi Mathias,

Mathias Bauer wrote:

Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:


IMHO the only reason that 1.3.1 still is the baseline is that nobody
took care of raising it. And by now nobody has raised any objections

Well, both is not true.
Please go back to the beginning of this thread.

???

Who took care of raising it?
And who did object?

This issue listed in the first mail is one reason I am taking care of it ...

Or do I misunderstand what you said?



Ciao,
Mathias




Regards

  Kay

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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-16 Thread Mathias Bauer
Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:

 IMHO the only reason that 1.3.1 still is the baseline is that nobody
 took care of raising it. And by now nobody has raised any objections
Well, both is not true.
Please go back to the beginning of this thread.

Ciao,
Mathias

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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Stephan Bergmann

Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:

Hi Rony,

I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally 
were on that alias.


Still, I would consider it an error if current OOo versions built for 
widespread distribution (e.g., Sun Hamburg built DEV300 m23) are built 
in a way that they do not work with at least Java 1.3.1 at runtime.


-Stephan

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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Rony G. Flatscher


Stephan Bergmann wrote:

Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:

Hi Rony,

I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement 
originally were on that alias.


Still, I would consider it an error if current OOo versions built for 
widespread distribution (e.g., Sun Hamburg built DEV300 m23) are built 
in a way that they do not work with at least Java 1.3.1 at runtime.
This could be achieved by compiling with the -source and -target 
switches in effect which allow for creating the class files such, that 
they can be loaded in earlier releases (like in Java 1.3).


---rony




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RE: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Daan de Wit
From: Rony G. Flatscher [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 10:16
 To: dev@openoffice.org
 Subject: Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC:
java
 1.5
 
 
 Stephan Bergmann wrote:
  Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:
  Hi Rony,
 
  I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK,
baseline
  etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement
  originally were on that alias.
 
  Still, I would consider it an error if current OOo versions built
for
  widespread distribution (e.g., Sun Hamburg built DEV300 m23) are
built
  in a way that they do not work with at least Java 1.3.1 at runtime.
 This could be achieved by compiling with the -source and -target
 switches in effect which allow for creating the class files such, that
 they can be loaded in earlier releases (like in Java 1.3).

That flags only specify the binary class version IMHO, it does not
ensure any API compatability

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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-14 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg

Stephan,

Stephan Bergmann wrote:

Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg wrote:

Hi Rony,

I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally 
were on that alias.


Still, I would consider it an error if current OOo versions built for 
widespread distribution (e.g., Sun Hamburg built DEV300 m23) are built 
in a way that they do not work with at least Java 1.3.1 at runtime.


I am currently checking if raising the baseline to 1.5 is fine, this is 
a prerequisite for what Svante is currently doing. IMHO the only reason 
that 1.3.1 still is the baseline is that nobody took care of raising it. 
And by now nobody has raised any objections ...


Please let's continue discussions on [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Stephan


  Kay





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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg

Hi Rony,

I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally 
were on that alias.




Regards

   Kay


Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi there,


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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Rony G. Flatscher

Hi Kay,
I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally 
were on that alias.

Thank you very much for this clarification!

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] an OOo mailing list that one should subscribe to to learn 
as early as possible about Java related changes (configuration, class 
loader schemes,etc.)?


---rony


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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Kay Ramme - Sun Germany - Hamburg

Rony,

Rony G. Flatscher wrote:

Hi Kay,
I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, baseline 
etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason for 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement originally 
were on that alias.

Thank you very much for this clarification!

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] an OOo mailing list that one should subscribe to to learn 
as early as possible about Java related changes (configuration, class 
loader schemes,etc.)?


exactly, full name is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]


---rony



Hope that helps

   Kay



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Re: [dev] Java 1.5 now minimal requirement ? (Re: [dev] RFC: java 1.5

2008-07-13 Thread Rony G. Flatscher

Hi Kay,
I did start the discussions regarding Java version, OpenJDK, 
baseline etc. on [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry for not announcing it here. Reason 
for [EMAIL PROTECTED] is, that all stakeholders from the last agreement 
originally were on that alias.

Thank you very much for this clarification!

Is [EMAIL PROTECTED] an OOo mailing list that one should subscribe to to 
learn as early as possible about Java related changes (configuration, 
class loader schemes,etc.)?

exactly, full name is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Hope that helps

Yes, thank you *very* much (could already subscribe to it)!

Regards,

---rony


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