Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem

2008-12-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
Matthias Julius wrote:
 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de writes:
 
 Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Stefan de Konink wrote:
 So you actually suggest to implement a tree of relations to render a
 country?
 I'm not convinced a tree is needed.
 What do you have in mind to use as area that is bounded by a polygon 
 that has more than 2k of nodes?
 
 A relation with 2000 ways with 2000 nodes each can be an area with
 almost 4,000,000 nodes (3,998,000 to be exact).  That will get you
 pretty far.

Hence you are making a tree...

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Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk] Your whishlist for Debian Packages?

2008-12-29 Thread Rory McCann
On 28/12/08 18:26, Joerg Ostertag (OSM Tettnang/Germany) wrote:
 Hi,
 
 as most of you probably know I'm providing debian packages for the most 
 common 
 tools needed to work with OpenStreetMap. 
 What I'd like to know is:
- which additional tools from the osm-svn would you like to see added to
  the debian repository?
- which other debian based platforms would you like to see suported?
  examples would be: debian-etch, Ubuntu-xx, ...
 
 If you give me a preferences list, I can start with the most wanted ones 
 
 More description on the existing debian repository can be found at:
   http://www.gpsdrive.de/development/debian.shtml
 

Slightly related, but the version of osm2pgsql in Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy, the
last long term release of ubuntu is effectivly broken. :(


https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/osm2pgsql/+bug/254758

Rory



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Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem

2008-12-29 Thread Johnny Rose Carlsen
 What is the TRAPI server? (besides apparently very quick?)  Any
 specs/munin graphs for the curious?
 
 It's pretty much handling the load all by itself today.

I operate the physical server, not the application itself.

The server specs are:
Quad Xeon 2.13GHz, 8GB RAM, 2x1TB SATA DISK

Stats are available here, for now:
http://80.167.103.102/html/munin/openhost.dk/host1.openhost.dk.html

Questions about TRAPI should be directed at Blars Blarson.

Best Regards,
 - Johnny Carlsen


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Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

2008-12-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Женя wrote:

And one more question about translations: there are some strings, like 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces;, EPSG:4326, and so on - they 
don't require a translation. What should i do with them? Currently I 
leave them blank. Should I just copy the existing variant to the 
translation?


There are two solutions which have the same result in the software but 
different result for translator:


a) Leave string empty - The original is displayed - But your always have 
an untranslated string
b) Copy the string - The original is displayed - But you have no 
untranslated strings


Use b I would suggest :-)


I'm not an experienced translator, so I don't know the policies :)


You get more experienced the more you do, so feel free to ask.

BTW: French has 377 missing where Russian has 412. Do you really want let 
them win the race?


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Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

2008-12-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Ulf Lamping wrote:

 I've started to fix a) in english and german language (as a start I've
 simply used logfile date format .MM.DD and SVN version - maybe we
 need to use local date formats at least for the translations?).

I copied the new stuff to It and Pl as well, or they will never notice the 
change.

 But how to deal with the old message pages? As I can't delete the pages
 (tried to login to the JOSM trac with my SVN password but didn't
 worked), I just emptied out the page content for SVN1000 for now. These
 empty but existing pages will probably slow down things in the long run,
 so deleting the old pages completely will probably be a better choice ...

I removed them, so they are no longer loaded, but they should be deleted 
nevertheless :-)

Here are all delete candidates:

MessageOfTheDay=858 De:MessageOfTheDay=858
MessageOfTheDay=805 De:MessageOfTheDay=805
MessageOfTheDay=608 De:MessageOfTheDay=608
MessageOfTheDay=547 De:MessageOfTheDay=547
MessageOfTheDay643  De:MessageOfTheDay643

Frederik, you should have permission to do so.

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[OSM-dev] problem with osmosis

2008-12-29 Thread Damian Proksch
Hello,
I have now another problem with osmosis:
I'd wrote a small text file to sort and merge
some OSM-files.
Here are the text file:

cd..
cd..
cd C:\osmosis-0.29
java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_1.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_2.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_3.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_4.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_5.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_6.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_7.osm --m --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx 
file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm


...and here the reply of my CMD:

  C:\Dokumente und Einstellungen\IchChefDuNixcd..

C:\Dokumente und Einstellungencd..

C:\cd C:\osmosis-0.29

C:\osmosis-0.29java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no file=
I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_1.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no file=I:\OSM_Karten
\Sorted\sorted_2.osm --m --wx file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm
29.12.2008 17:33:48 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Osmosis Version 0.29
29.12.2008 17:33:48 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Preparing pipeline.
29.12.2008 17:33:48 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Launching pipeline execution.
29.12.2008 17:33:48 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Pipeline executing, waiting for completion.
29.12.2008 17:34:01 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Pipeline complete.

C:\osmosis-0.29
C:\osmosis-0.29java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no file=
I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx file=I:\OSM_Kart
en\Planet\Planet.osm
29.12.2008 17:34:02 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Osmosis Version 0.29
29.12.2008 17:34:02 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Preparing pipeline.
29.12.2008 17:34:02 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Launching pipeline execution.
29.12.2008 17:34:02 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Pipeline executing, waiting for completion.
29.12.2008 17:34:18 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Pipeline complete.

C:\osmosis-0.29
C:\osmosis-0.29java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no file=
I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no file=I:\OSM_Karten\S
orted\sorted_3.osm --m --wx file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm
29.12.2008 17:34:18 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Osmosis Version 0.29
29.12.2008 17:34:18 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Preparing pipeline.
29.12.2008 17:34:18 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Launching pipeline execution.
29.12.2008 17:34:18 com.bretth.osmosis.core.Osmosis main
INFO: Pipeline executing, waiting for completion.
29.12.2008 17:34:19 com.bretth.osmosis.core.pipeline.common.ActiveTaskManager wa
itForCompletion
SCHWERWIEGEND: Thread for task 1-rx failed
com.bretth.osmosis.core.OsmosisRuntimeException: Unable to parse xml file I:\OSM
_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm.  publicId=(null), systemId=(null), lineNumber=285, co
lumnNumber=5.
at com.bretth.osmosis.core.xml.v0_5.XmlReader.run(XmlReader.java:114)
at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: org.xml.sax.SAXParseException: XML document structures must start and
 

Re: [OSM-dev] problem with osmosis

2008-12-29 Thread Karl Newman
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 8:50 AM, Damian Proksch damian.prok...@gmx.dewrote:

 Hello,
 I have now another problem with osmosis:
 I'd wrote a small text file to sort and merge
 some OSM-files.
 Here are the text file:

 cd..
 cd..
 cd C:\osmosis-0.29
 java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no
 file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_1.osm --rx enableDateParsing=no
 file=I:\OSM_Karten\Sorted\sorted_2.osm --m --wx
 file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

 java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx enableDateParsing=no
 file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm --sort type=TypeThenId --wx
 file=I:\OSM_Karten\Planet\Planet.osm

snip

anyone a idea what's going wrong?

  My system is:
 Winxp prof SP3
 Intel Pentium 4 with 3GHz
 2.0 GB RAM

 Thanks a lot for your answers.

 damian


In your second command, you're writing back to the same file you're reading
from. That won't work because Osmosis is still reading from it. Also, you
can accomplish your goal in a single command line by continuing to read and
merge files. In other words (slightly simplified for clarity):

java -Xmx1200m -jar osmosis.jar --rx sorted_1.osm --rx sorted_2.osm --m --rx
sorted_3.osm --m --rx sorted_4.osm --m --rx sorted_5.osm --m --rx
sorted_6.osm --m --rx sorted_7.osm --m --wx Planet.osm

If your individual files are sorted the same way (i.e., Type then Id), the
osmosis merge will preserve that sort, so there's no need to re-sort after a
merge. Actually, the files are required to be sorted before they can be
merged. Also, there's not much (if any) performance penalty now in leaving
the date parsing enabled by default.

Karl
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[OSM-dev] Possible Merkaartor bug?

2008-12-29 Thread Detlef Reichl
hi,

sorry, for cut'n'paste from the mailing list archives, but I was not
subscribed when the topic was started:


copied_from_dev
Hard to solve without knowing what the user did... but good to know that
the
problem is there.

Is user hdus hanging around?

Thanks
- Chris -

2008/12/5 Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org

 Hi,

could one of the Merkaartor devs perhaps look into this way history:

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/0.5/way/24993635/history

 It seems that someone managed to insert the same node twice into this
 way using Merkaartor. Known issue?
/copied_from_dev

Some days ago I reported a similar problem to the talk-de list. It is about the 
ways

28575383
23589385
23638811

They all have nodes with the same ID one after the other. All the ways are 
created or last modified with Merkaartor.

It would be useful to check that two successive nodes don't have the same ID 
before a way is submitted to the DB.

Cheers, detlef


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Re: [josm-dev] Tasks for all of you

2008-12-29 Thread Russ Nelson
Dirk Stöcker writes:
  On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Russ Nelson wrote:
  
   I'm not certain it's correct to change the other calls:
  
   In io/OsmServerObjectReader.java, it's reading from the API.  Will the
   API ever hand out ways without their nodes?
  
   Same for io/OsmServerLocationReader.java and io/BoundingBoxDownloader.java.
  
  I think so. If I remember correctly I added that report because the API 
  didn't give me a certain way. But as I cannot be sure probably adding the 
  request at all places is the best.

Hrm.  I don't like submitting a patch that I haven't tested.  Does
anybody know of a way which is missing a node?

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Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem

2008-12-29 Thread Matthias Julius
Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de writes:

 Matthias Julius wrote:
 Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de writes:
 
 Frederik Ramm wrote:
 Stefan de Konink wrote:
 So you actually suggest to implement a tree of relations to render a
 country?
 I'm not convinced a tree is needed.
 What do you have in mind to use as area that is bounded by a polygon 
 that has more than 2k of nodes?
 
 A relation with 2000 ways with 2000 nodes each can be an area with
 almost 4,000,000 nodes (3,998,000 to be exact).  That will get you
 pretty far.

 Hence you are making a tree...

... but not a tree of relations.  Every relation is a tree (almost).
So I don't see a particular problem in making a boundary a relation,
too.

Matthias

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Re: [josm-dev] Tasks for all of you

2008-12-29 Thread Shaun McDonald

On 29 Dec 2008, at 22:17, Russ Nelson wrote:

 Dirk Stöcker writes:
 On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Russ Nelson wrote:

 I'm not certain it's correct to change the other calls:

 In io/OsmServerObjectReader.java, it's reading from the API.  Will  
 the
 API ever hand out ways without their nodes?

 Same for io/OsmServerLocationReader.java and io/ 
 BoundingBoxDownloader.java.

 I think so. If I remember correctly I added that report because the  
 API
 didn't give me a certain way. But as I cannot be sure probably  
 adding the
 request at all places is the best.

 Hrm.  I don't like submitting a patch that I haven't tested.  Does
 anybody know of a way which is missing a node?

One option might be to manually make one and use one of the  
development test servers at
http://apis.dev.openstreetmap.org to test it.

(Yes it will mean messing with XML manually).

Shaun


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Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem

2008-12-29 Thread Stefan de Konink
Matthias Julius wrote:
 ... but not a tree of relations.  Every relation is a tree (almost).
 So I don't see a particular problem in making a boundary a relation,
 too.

Some people wanted to limit ways/relations to 2k of nodes. If you do 
allow relations to have all these extra subrelations then what are you 
going to solve in the end? This is enforcing a clueless limit and not 
solving the fundamental problem why this limit is justified; and no that 
has nothing to do with data storage.

As I mentioned earlier, there is no need for even the concept 'way'; 
since you can store a relation with tag highway=whatever. So fundamental 
issues:
- the tables are too verbose (not normalised)
- the tables imply limits that are not required from a database standpoint
- the practical usage of limitations (only fetch what you can observe) 
is not exploited at all, while this is an issue for a renderer and a 
typical client that wants to use the data


Anyway the resolve scenario sounds like Microsoft, you cannot use 
character blablabla in your filename, because we say so.


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Re: [OSM-dev] ROMA servers down - osmosis large way problem

2008-12-29 Thread Matt Amos
On Mon, Dec 29, 2008 at 10:26 PM, Stefan de Konink ste...@konink.de wrote:
 Some people wanted to limit ways/relations to 2k of nodes. If you do
 allow relations to have all these extra subrelations then what are you
 going to solve in the end? This is enforcing a clueless limit and not
 solving the fundamental problem why this limit is justified; and no that
 has nothing to do with data storage.

practicality. since we all agree that no-one wants to download a 100k+
node way, there are two immediately obvious solutions: change the API
to return partial ways or disallow ways longer than some arbitrary
limit. the former requires many changes on the server and client, the
latter requires many fewer.

the former might be a better solution (fsov better) and we would
welcome patches to the server, josm, potlatch and merkaartor which
implement it.

 As I mentioned earlier, there is no need for even the concept 'way';
 since you can store a relation with tag highway=whatever. So fundamental
 issues:
 - the tables are too verbose (not normalised)

practicality. this is a legacy problem - relations were introduced as
unordered sets to solve a particular problem, but their use has since
outgrown their original conception. in 0.6 the relations are able to
totally model ways, but in 0.5 they are not. there are several other
non-normalities in the tables (i.e: *_tags), but ways/relations is not
one of them.

this may change (or be fixed, depending on your point of view) in
future API versions. as shaun said: one step at a time.

 - the tables imply limits that are not required from a database standpoint

the API certainly does, but this is related to the point above. just
because there is no technical reason from a database standpoint
doesn't mean there isn't a reason.

 - the practical usage of limitations (only fetch what you can observe)
 is not exploited at all, while this is an issue for a renderer and a
 typical client that wants to use the data

it is exploited in the map call to return only visible nodes, ways and
relations.

 Anyway the resolve scenario sounds like Microsoft, you cannot use
 character blablabla in your filename, because we say so.

NTFS disallows /, as do most unix filesystems. macos x disallows :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filename#Comparison_of_file_name_limitations

these limitations are usually imposed to prevent confusion. i.e: /
is always the root directory, not a file called / in the current
directory.

cheers,

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Re: [josm-dev] Re lease 1180 - download problem

2008-12-29 Thread Tony Grimley
Dirk - many thanks for your response. Please tell me how to prepare the full 
log text so I can send it to you.  I am afraid the reference to a proxy server 
is also outside my somewhat limited knowledge of computers so please tell me 
how I can check this on my machine.
I have JOSM loaded on a laptop and, using the same username and password as 
used for uploading data to OSM as on  my desktop computer, I can download from 
JOSM OK. I have checked that the same username and password is set for JOSM on 
the desktop as on the laptop and I can upload data to OSM and edit with 
Potlatch from  the desktop without any problems - I added some data yesterday.
If it helps to identify the problem, both machines are linked to a home 
network. My desktop receives the broadband via a cable connection from the 
router and the laptop via the home network.
Regards
Tony Grimley
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dirk Stöcker 
  To: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2008 9:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Re lease 1180 - download problem


  On Sat, 27 Dec 2008, TonyG57 wrote:

   I am new to JOSM and, when using the slippy map to select a small area to
   download, get an error message 'HTTP response code 403 for URL:
   http://www.openstreetmap.org/api/map?bbox. . . . . '
   It occurs with all areas however small although I have included 512M in my
   start-up entry.
   What can I do to get the area into JOSM so I can then transfer it into my
   Garmin Legend Hcx?

  Please send a full log text to allow us to help you.

  But a raw guess is, that you have no or wrong username and password or 
  maybe a proxy server is inbetween.

  Code 403 is a status code telling about missing permissions.

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Re: [josm-dev] Re lease 1180 - download problem

2008-12-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker
On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Tony Grimley wrote:

 Dirk - many thanks for your response. Please tell me how to prepare the 
 full log text so I can send it to you.  I am afraid the reference to a

Add the following minimum information:
- JOSM version
- What plugins installed and their versions
- Start the program from commandline and poste the texts shown there:
   - open Command shell
   - start josm like java -jar josm-latest.jar
- What do you do exactly? Add a step by step description.
- Attach your preferences file (strip username and password from it)
- What OS do you have.

Either there is a bug in josm or your system, but without information 
about your system we cannot find a reason.

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Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

2008-12-29 Thread Женя
How can I get a login to trac, so I could translate the MOTD? 

And one more question about translations: there are some strings, like 
http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces;, EPSG:4326, and so on - they don't 
require a translation. What should i do with them? Currently I leave them 
blank. Should I just copy the existing variant to the translation?

I'm not an experienced translator, so I don't know the policies :) 

Женя mailto:yourn...@mail.ru


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Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

2008-12-29 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Женя wrote:
 How can I get a login to trac, so I could translate the MOTD?

No login is required.

 And one more question about translations: there are some strings,
 like http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces;, EPSG:4326, and so on -
 they don't require a translation. What should i do with them?

I think copying the existing content is ok. If something is obviously 
stupid we can change the source to use the string un-translated, but 
some things like the URL above do make sense, so that id/when the web 
page becomes available in different languages, the URL can be localised.

Bye
Frederik


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Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

2008-12-29 Thread Женя


-Original Message-
From: Dirk StЖcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de
To: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org
Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2008 12:31:05 +0100 (CET)
Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Message of the day texts

 BTW: French has 377 missing where Russian has 412. Do you really want let 
 them win the race?

NEVER! :lol:
Actually, I only translate the stuff, which is used by me :) 
That's why some plugins remain untranslated. Even the Audio menu: I never used 
it and have the menu disabled. No menu visible = no translation needed :D 
(I don't know, why Audio is a core module, and not a plugin, but that's another 
topic)

So, to sum it up, I'm awhare, what Russian translation currently lacks, and I'm 
working on it. But the main goal is quality, not quantity :) 

PS - I've translated the MOTD.

Женя mailto:yourn...@mail.ru


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Re: [josm-dev] Re lease 1180 - download problem

2008-12-29 Thread Tony Grimley
Dirk - before compiling the log to send to you, I installed the latest 
JOSM-latest file - version 1189 and updated the existing plugins. Among them I  
had previously installed the osmarender plugin but I noticed in the list on 
version 1189 the requirement to make some settings for it in 
Preferences/Mapsettings. I could not find Mapsettings as an option in the 
Preferences list so deleted  the Osmarender plugin from the list to load - and 
this seemed to fix my problem.  I was then able to select an area on the slippy 
map and download and save it to disk
My problem is now dealt with and I am most grateful for your prompt and patient 
responses to my earlier requests for assistance.
Many thanks!
Tony Grimley

- Original Message - 
  From: Dirk Stöcker 
  To: josm-dev@openstreetmap.org 
  Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [josm-dev] Re lease 1180 - download problem


  On Mon, 29 Dec 2008, Tony Grimley wrote:

   Dirk - many thanks for your response. Please tell me how to prepare the 
   full log text so I can send it to you.  I am afraid the reference to a

  Add the following minimum information:
  - JOSM version
  - What plugins installed and their versions
  - Start the program from commandline and poste the texts shown there:
 - open Command shell
 - start josm like java -jar josm-latest.jar
  - What do you do exactly? Add a step by step description.
  - Attach your preferences file (strip username and password from it)
  - What OS do you have.

  Either there is a bug in josm or your system, but without information 
  about your system we cannot find a reason.

  Ciao
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[josm-dev] Mappaint and multipolygon relation

2008-12-29 Thread Dirk Stöcker
Hello,

Revision 1190 of JOSM has a first (debug) implementation of multipolygon 
drawing.

A test file can be found here: http://www.dstoecker.eu/multipolygon.osm

You need to set mappaint.multipolygon=true to see anything (and you get lots 
of debug warnings on console :-)

The only missing features:
- Handling of errors and warnings
- Handling of multiple outer ways with inner ways - I need to write a
isIn() function to find out which way is inside which other way.

So Examples 1-4 of advanced multipolygons are displayed right, the others not.

When selecting ways, The area is selected as soon as an outer way is selected. 
No reaction for inner ways.

Please test and tell me anything you think I should know.

Description:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:multipolygon

Ciao
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Re: [josm-dev] wmsplugin yahoo maps proxy support

2008-12-29 Thread bluemm1975-osm
--- On Wed, 17/12/08, Dirk Stöcker openstreet...@dstoecker.de wrote:
 On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, bluemm1975-...@yahoo.com wrote:
  All I get is white squares. I see some other messages on the list
  which  mention trouble shooting. If I run the url passed to
  webkit-image, it  works fine in Firefox3 (small rectangle of Yahoo 
  imagery). Using  webkit-image, I get a 67kb JPG of 2000x2000 with 
  black background and white rectangle in upper left corner. It appears 
  that webkit-image isn't passed any proxy information. I tried using 
  webkit-image.exe /? or -? or --? or --help to no avail. Even 
  if I could find the right settings, the wmsplugin would need to pass 
  it along.
 
 webkit-image has no proxy settings yet. Actually it has no commandline 
 arguments at all. ATM you only can use transparent proxies or systemwide  
 settings. Have a look at Qt documentation, maybe you can set the proxy 
 systemwide so Qt will also use these settings.
 
 Ciao

Hi Dirk,
From doing a Google search like you suggested, using these search terms:
 * qt proxy windows setting
 * webkit proxy windows setting
I got hits that said code must be created for supporting proxies, there is 
nothing pre-built, but a few code outlines are given.

It looks like the QT 4.5 dev version handles system set proxies, as 
mentioned at http://doc.trolltech.com/main-snapshot/qt4-5-intro.html
Any chance of updating the code to a new 4.5 snapshot and dropping a 
binary to test out?

Cheers, BlueMM


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