My own experience with Vespucci on phone is that with first touch I
moved accidentally some node and there is no undo feature, so it was
unusable for me and I did not go much futher. Another major drawback
is no (proper) preset system, best if JOSM preset XMLs could be
reused. But overall it might be better approach to fix these things
than porting full JOSM or Merkaator to Android and find out that in
reality they are not usable on the go. There are actually two
different usage modes of tablets: as big-screen portable device, used
right in the field; or as a slim laptop replacement, used in the
office. For the second case porting of full editor (with some
touch-specific tweaks, not all have full keyboard for tablet) would
make perfect sense. And for the field you need offline, basic map
drafting, GPS track saving, geotagged image storage: more like digital
version walking papers, not map data editor. Totally different things.
Vespucci is somewhere in the middle and as it often happens with
middle way approach, does not serve none of the cases really well.
So I would have two questions:
a) Would there be enough users for full editor (Merkaator in
particular, as it should be technically easier to port) on Android
netbooks? This would be for office, not so much for field use.
b) Would there be enough interest for new Walking Papers for Android
or iPad (and which of them) app? This would have following key
capabilities:
- preload offline background map. Simplified BW style like in Walking
Papers, also WMS extracts.
- drawing draft lines and notes on top of that, saves it as GPX which
needs postprocessing on JOSM
- easy graphical tag editing with presets, saves OSM changes, can be
postprocessed with JSOM, but in simpler cases good enough for direct
upload.
- save GPS track
- maybe take and save photos, with geotags
- no graphical way editing, only point moving for standalone nodes
(like in MapZen POI collector)
- scalable also for phones, but best with tablets
Jaak
2011/12/2 Toby Murray toby.mur...@gmail.com:
I would suggest looking at helping to improve Vesupcci. It already
does several things mentioned here and I think a few other things are
at least theoretically on the roadmap. It is certainly usable on my
Samsung Galaxy S. Editing geometry is kind of tricky and I ususally
end up going back in JOSM and fixing things after I upload from
Vespucci. But I don't see many options to change that on a small touch
screen. Tablets might work better. Having an orthogonalize button
might be neat though. One outstanding feature request is to save to a
file that you can open in JOSM and edit before uploading.
It has tagging presets built in although they are not graphical... it
just offers autocomplete suggestions for tag keys and values that it
knows about. So you have to know which tag you want, it just helps you
fill it in quicker. But it does have a button that will send you to
the wiki for the selected key.
It also guesses the road name when you add an addr:street tag. In my
experience it does fairly well.
It displays Bing imagery by default but has several other options.
It even does some minimal validation - highlighting streets with no name.
Toby
2011/12/2 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de:
Well I've got Merkaator running on my OpenPandora handhelt (Angstrome Linux)
and noticed that this kind of editors (let's call them GIS centred) isn't
what will work on mobile devices in the field.
I used osm2go as well and it's realy clother to my needs but is unfortunatly
abandoned and currently not that good for tapping devices. On the other
sides regular Smartphones are just to small (virtual keypad) so you might
need a real hardware keyboard as the Pandora offers, to add streetnames etc.
What in my opinion will work esp. on Tablets is:
-easy to use download data (select area on map, not entering them
numericaly)
-ultimate reduced UI (focused on adding more attributes and just POIs, not
for complex geometry, as this is best done with a mouse)
-mission schemas that customize the layout/workflow:
Let's say you want to add housenumbers, so you tap on the house. The editor
suggests the next road and already predicts the housenumber by what you
entered to house before).
Another usecase might be to add 3D featuers, where a wizzard presents you
different shapes of roofs, color table, ...
-ability to take georeferenced audio-notes, photos and embedd them
immediately
Yes a HTML5 might do the job and as Josh noticed, this will simplify the
deployment for mobile platforms. On the other hand I would really suggest
offline editing.
But this are just ideas...would be great if anybody would give it a try to
see if this might work :)
bye
Matthias
Am 02.12.2011 14:26, schrieb Josh Doe:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 8:13 AM, Ian Deesian.d...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Jaak Lainestejaak.laine...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
as you may now, during GSoC
