Re: [OSM-dev-fr] Fichiers osm full-history - Création de la base de données

2011-12-12 Thread julien

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:14:25 +0100, Nicolas Dumoulin wrote:

Le Samedi 10 Décembre 2011 22:11:58 julien balas a écrit :

On 12/09/2011 08:49 AM, Ab_fab wrote:
 Tu es sûr d'avoir formulé ta ligne de commande comme demandé ?
 le fichier readme donne ceci comme exemple :
 ./osm-history-importer --debug --prefix hist_ --dsn
 host='172.16.0.73' dbname='histtest' gau-odernheim.osh.pbf

effectivement, le jour ou j'apprendrais a lire ca ira mieux

voila le resultat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_-Glh94ZTE

même avec le soft-cut ca fait un effet bizarre sur l'apparition des
premiers segments, mais bon.


Tu aurais pas des notes pour reproduire tout ça :-)


comme dis dans le commentaire de la video, j'ai suivi le tres bon 
tutorial

https://github.com/MaZderMind/osm-history-renderer/blob/master/TUTORIAL.md

avec l'aide de ab_fab car c'est un peut laborieux a certains moment 
pour un non-expert comme moi




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Re: [OSM-dev-fr] Tunning de postgresql pour des bases osmosis et/ou osm2pgsql

2011-12-12 Thread Thomas Clavier
Le 09/12/2011 12:19, sly (sylvain letuffe) a écrit :
 Tu as quelques stats de ton nombre de tuile générées par minutes ou secondes ?
 Tu as combien de visiteurs sur ton service de tuiles ?
 J'ai dû oublié, mais tu as quoi comme rendus ?

un rendu tango ... j'ai pas encore rebranché le rendu beciklo :-(

Question renderd en pointe je plafone à 15 tuiles (tous les zoom
confondu) par min.

Question trafic, j'ai quasiment pas de visteurs ... en moyenne 8
connections simultanées aux heures de pointe :-)


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Re: [OSM-dev-fr] Problème de compilation d'osm2pgsql

2011-12-12 Thread Julien Fastré
Bonjour,

Bon, après une semaine, je m'y suis remis.

J'ai trouvé le bug: les paquets libxml2-devel et libxml-2-devel-32-bits
étaient tous deux installés et cela provoquait un bug. La piste de
Matthias était la bonne (merci à toi).

J'ai désinstallé libxml2-devel-32-bits et c'est passé comme une
fleur...  (après un make clean et make distclean, pour être sûr...)

Merci beaucoup !

Julien FASTRE

PS: pensez-vous qu'il soit nécessaire de faire remonter un bug quelque
part, à quelqu'un ??



Le 05/12/2011 17:17, Matthias Dietrich a écrit :
 Le 5 décembre 2011 12:55, Julien Fastré julienfas...@gmail.com a écrit :
 Je pense que la piste que tu m'indiques est la bonne. Connais-tu le
 moyen pour modifier ce chemin, et indiquer le fichier vers la
 bibliothèque 64bits ? Je pourrais chercher dans la documentation, mais
 je préfère te le demander d'abord, au cas où tu le connaîtrais...

 Y a-t-il des options à indiquer au moment de la compilation ? Modifier
 le fichier Makefile ?

 Je précise tout de suite que je n'ai jamais compilé osm2pgsql, donc je
 ne sais pas s'il existe un script configure ou autre qui permet de
 générer un Makefile adapté à ton système. Si c'est le cas, tu as
 peut-être la possibilité de passer des options à configure pour lui
 indiquer où trouver la libxml2.so.
 Dans le cas contraire, ou même pour valider mon hypothèse, tu peux
 éditer le fichier Makefile et remplacer toutes les occurrences de
 /usr/lib/libxml2.so par /usr/lib64/libxml2.so et recompiler. Ce
 n'est pas forcément très propre, mais ça permettra déjà de voir si ça
 règle ton problème.

 Matthias



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Re: [OSM-dev] Patch for osm2pgsql duplicate keys

2011-12-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg
I know on my (rather old) version of osm2pgsql, append fails with duplicate 
ways.
Will have to try the new version and see if I get the same problem.

Nick

Sorry, this is with slim mode only. Dup ways give no error with regular mode. 
Does the patch relate to slim mode or regular mode?

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[OSM-dev] License Change View on OSM Inspector

2011-12-12 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

   I've added a world-wide license change map to OSM Inspector:

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=wtfelon=-1.80469lat=35.88371zoom=2overlays=overview,wtfe_point_harmless,wtfe_line_harmless,wtfe_point_modified,wtfe_line_modified_cp,wtfe_line_modified,wtfe_point_created,wtfe_line_created_cp,wtfe_line_created

This is based on the per-object data I have on wtfe.gryph.de, combined 
with a current planet file. The view is updated nightly, and drawn on 
OSMI using a large bitmap for the smaller zoom levels, and detailed 
shape files for the higher zooms.


The shape files and overview bitmap can be downloaded separately from a 
temporary server (http://176.9.53.72/); the shape files are probably the 
easiest starting point for someone who wants to draw their own maps or 
make other analyses. They are quite large though (more than 1 GB each) 
so don't expect to be able to just open them in QGis ;)


Statistics are available on http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/munin.html, 
an detailed documentation on 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Remapping/ODbL%20Layer%20on%20OSM%20Inspector.


I'm not sending this to talk/twitter/blogs etc just yet because I was 
hoping that some of you might test drive the service and do a few spot 
checks to see if it does what it is supposed to do. Such a spot check 
would typically consist of zooming in to an area where something is red 
or orange, clicking on the object to see its ID, then use the OSM data 
browser to look at the object history to see if that object really has a 
relicensing issue.


I'm happy for technical discussion to take place here but I'll send a 
similar message to legal-talk so that if there are questions more legal 
than technical, they can be discussed there.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Tom Hughes

On 12/12/11 14:54, Andreas Hammershøj wrote:


Any news of progress on this subject?


I'm afraid not. Nobody is working on this as far as I know.

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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Tom Hughes wrote:
 I'm afraid not. Nobody is working on this as far as I know.

Dumb question: what would be required for someone to work on this? What
would need to be changed? 

I'd love to see the DCF editing OSM with P2.

cheers
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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Tom Hughes

On 12/12/11 15:25, Richard Fairhurst wrote:


Tom Hughes wrote:

I'm afraid not. Nobody is working on this as far as I know.


Dumb question: what would be required for someone to work on this? What
would need to be changed?


Well the only proposal I'm aware of is to add support for authenticated 
downloads so that (a) we can charge downloads to a user id rather than 
an IP address and (b) we can consider giving logged in users a higher 
quota than anonymous users.


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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andreas Hammershøj wrote:
 Any news of progress on this subject?

The other thing that could be done is to make P2 ask for less data. At
present every pan results in a request for all the data within the onscreen
area. In theory, we can reduce this by only asking (in several calls) for
the areas that isn't already loaded. 

Matt wrote some excellent Ruby code to calculate these areas. I got most of
the way through translating it into ActionScript 3 for use in Potlatch 2,
but got a bit bamboozled by some of the Ruby iterator magick. I haven't got
the code on this machine but I'll locate it and post it in case anyone can
help me with that bit. :)

cheers
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[OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Parveen Arora
Hi All,

I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
understand completely, So I would like to know If there is any
available or not?

I found one component diagram
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview

But I want one only of database?

or Please let me know how to generate it automatically from PostGreSQL Database?


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[Potlatch-dev] map_features.xml annoyances

2011-12-12 Thread Eric Wolf
These aren't really bugs because this is the intended behavior, but it is
annoying if not confusing. I'm working with map_features.xml to configure
Potlatch2 for the USGS OSMCP server:

1. Why is the xml tag category reused to specify a tab name in input?
Why not just call it tabname? It's really confusing to someone just
hacking the XML - does this category have anything to do with the Feature
Categories?

2. Why not specify category/tab name  as part of inputSet and have the
inputs inherit it? Or, at least, allow this behavior?

3. Can I override or rename the Basic tab without modifying the Potlatch2
code?

4. Is there another way to disable the display of OpenStreetBugs other than
removing the styles/bugs.css file?

-Eric

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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Stefan Keller
Perhaps you an try this tool to extract the schema and display it in
an UMLet diagram.
http://wiki.hsr.ch/StefanKeller/wiki.cgi?DBSchemaToUML
I'm also interested in the result.

Yours, Stefan

2011/12/12 Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in:
 Hi All,

 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely, So I would like to know If there is any
 available or not?

 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview

 But I want one only of database?

 or Please let me know how to generate it automatically from PostGreSQL 
 Database?


 Thank You.

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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Serge Wroclawski
There are some technical workarounds you can use...

HOT gets around issues by downloading an area ahead of time and loading it
into the editor.

Its suboptimal but it solves some of the problem.

- Serge
On Dec 12, 2011 9:56 AM, Andreas Hammershøj a...@dcf.dk wrote:

 Hi Dev,
 back in May I posted the following question in help.openstreetmap.org:
 http://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/5438/how-to-avoid-potlatch-2-download-limit-when-editing-on-multiple-computers-on-a-network
 I was directed to this mailing list via the thread.

 ** **

 Short version is that I work for the Danish Cyclists Federation and
 organize courses in OSM editing around the country. Our activities are
 however made difficult by the download limit per IP address encountered
 when using Potlatch2. Almost all networks we encounter are firewall
 protected or use some other form of NAT. With 10 or 15 newbies sharing one
 IP, we quickly hit the wall, which resulted in some both annoying and
 embarrassing situations before we figured out what the problem was. I’m
 told the best solution would be to lock the limit to user accounts instead
 of IP-addresses.

 

 Any news of progress on this subject?

 

 So far we’ve tried to handle the problem by using a number for 3G modems,
 but this solution is both expensive, unstable and bad for my nerves.

 Best regards,
 Andreas Hammershøj
 OpenStreetMap Community Manager for the Danish Cyclists Federation
 Our route planner: www.cyclistic.dk 

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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Mayeul Kauffmann
Hi,
This might be what you want:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Rails_Port/Railroad_diagrams

This is handy too:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rails_port/Database_schema

Cheers,
Mayeul

Le mardi 13 décembre 2011 à 00:20 +0530, Parveen Arora a écrit :
 Hi All,
 
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely, So I would like to know If there is any
 available or not?
 
 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview
 
 But I want one only of database?
 
 or Please let me know how to generate it automatically from PostGreSQL 
 Database?
 
 
 Thank You.
 



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Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-12 Thread Peter Körner

Am 12.12.2011 20:49, schrieb Serge Wroclawski:
 HOT gets around issues by downloading an area ahead of time and loading it 
into the editor.

Well, you could download the area of interest via the homepage export function 
as .osm file and place it on a network share / usb stick. The Editors of the 
mapping party would open that file, do their changes and upload from there.

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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Jonathan Bennett
On 12/12/2011 18:50, Parveen Arora wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely, So I would like to know If there is any
 available or not?
 

http://git.openstreetmap.org/?p=rails.git;a=tree;f=db/migrate

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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Philipp Borgers
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 00:20 +0530, Parveen Arora wrote:
 Hi All,

Some time ago I used dbvisualizer

http://www.dbvis.com/

to create this super nice svg

https://github.com/osm-spline/xappy.js/blob/master/doc/images/xapi_database_schema.svg

But the best way to understand the database schema is to start using
it. Open up psql or pgadmin and take a close look at the tables and do
some queries. pgadmin is a great tool if you like gui stuff.


 
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely, So I would like to know If there is any
 available or not?
 
 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview
 
 But I want one only of database?
 
 or Please let me know how to generate it automatically from PostGreSQL 
 Database?
 
 
 Thank You.
 



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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Andreas Hubel
Hello Parveen,

Am 12.12.2011 um 19:50 schrieb Parveen Arora:
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely,
I think the best way is to understand the different parts step by step and not 
to try to understand everything at the first time.

 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview
 
 But I want one only of database?
There is not one database. The main services provided by the foundation 
actually use two different databases, as shown in the component overview you 
already found.
Green: PostgreSQL backend 
aliases: api db, main db, core db
Yellow: PostGIS 
aliases: osm2pgsql db, Mapnik db 

We should definitely discuss about using uniform names in future. 

An overview about the different database schemas is available at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Database_schema#Database_Schemas
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_Database_Schemas

 or Please let me know how to generate it automatically from PostGreSQL 
 Database?
Please state which PostgreSQL database you mean. Both databases are hosted on 
PostgreSQL databases servers.

Regards,
Andi




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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Parveen Arora
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:26 PM, Mayeul Kauffmann
mayeul.kauffm...@free.fr wrote:
 Hi,
Hi Mayeul,

 This might be what you want:

 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/The_Rails_Port/Railroad_diagrams

This seems to be the database of whole website, But I just
particularly wants the diagram of data file stored in database, I want
to know how different tags, nodes, relations are being stored in the
database, how they are related to each other.
Is there any of this kind available?

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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Parveen Arora
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Andreas Hubel a...@saerdnaer.de wrote:
 Hello Parveen,

 Am 12.12.2011 um 19:50 schrieb Parveen Arora:
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely,
 I think the best way is to understand the different parts step by step and 
 not to try to understand everything at the first time.

 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview

 But I want one only of database?
 There is not one database. The main services provided by the foundation 
 actually use two different databases, as shown in the component overview you 
 already found.
 Green: PostgreSQL backend
        aliases: api db, main db, core db
 Yellow: PostGIS
        aliases: osm2pgsql db, Mapnik db
Yes, I want to have the diagram Yellow:PostGIS, the diagram of
database of osm file stored using osm2pgsql.


 We should definitely discuss about using uniform names in future.
Yes, I realized this lately after posting the email, I will take care
of it from next time.



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Re: [OSM-dev] ER Diagram of OSM Database

2011-12-12 Thread Toby Murray
Well there aren't any database level foreign key constraints in the
osm2pgsql schema so database visualization tools won't give you
anything useful to look at. Each table is its own island. This schema
is denormalized for rendering performance and the import process is
lossy. Only objects defined in the style are imported. Everything else
is ignored. The wiki page explains things a little although it could
use some cleanup by someone who is more familiar with it. Phrases like
I noticed these tables being present after an import in slim mode.
They seem to be for the first import stage don't exactly inspire
confidence...

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osm2pgsql/schema

Toby


On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Parveen Arora m...@parveenarora.in wrote:
 On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Andreas Hubel a...@saerdnaer.de wrote:
 Hello Parveen,

 Am 12.12.2011 um 19:50 schrieb Parveen Arora:
 I was searching for ER Diagram of OpenStreetMap's Database to
 understand completely,
 I think the best way is to understand the different parts step by step and 
 not to try to understand everything at the first time.

 I found one component diagram
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Component_overview

 But I want one only of database?
 There is not one database. The main services provided by the foundation 
 actually use two different databases, as shown in the component overview you 
 already found.
 Green: PostgreSQL backend
        aliases: api db, main db, core db
 Yellow: PostGIS
        aliases: osm2pgsql db, Mapnik db
 Yes, I want to have the diagram Yellow:PostGIS, the diagram of
 database of osm file stored using osm2pgsql.


 We should definitely discuss about using uniform names in future.
 Yes, I realized this lately after posting the email, I will take care
 of it from next time.



 Thank You.




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Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:

  I've updated the licensechange plugin and I would like all JOSM users to 
download the new version. However an older test installation steadfastly 
claims that all plugins are up to date after I asked it to update the 
plugin list. The local version is smaller than the one listed in 
http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Plugins - what could I have missed?


When the required version of JOSM increased, update is not possible. In 
this case JOSM stays on old version. You see this indicated by a small * 
in the plugin list of that instance.


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Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Dirk Stöcker

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, Frederik Ramm wrote:


 When the required version of JOSM increased, update is not possible. In
 this case JOSM stays on old version. You see this indicated by a small
 * in the plugin list of that instance.


Ah, thanks. I re-built the plugin, let's see if we get flooded with 
complaints now ;)


You know that there is a reason, why the number was increased. Reducing it 
is a good path to have trouble.


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[josm-dev] JOSM API

2011-12-12 Thread Frans Thamura
hi all

i am seeking doc related to JSOM API, and how JOSM communicate with OSM API

what happen if OSM API patched.

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Re: [josm-dev] JOSM API

2011-12-12 Thread Paul Hartmann
On 12/12/2011 06:23 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:
 hi all
 
 i am seeking doc related to JSOM API, and how JOSM communicate with OSM API

There is no doc, but all the calls to the OSM API are printed to the
command line, if you start JOSM from a console window.

 what happen if OSM API patched.

As soon as API 0.7 is introduced, JOSM will get updated. Not much we can
do about it right now. Maybe there is a better answer if you tell us
what the question is about.

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Re: [josm-dev] JOSM API

2011-12-12 Thread Mike Dupont
I think what you want is this
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/API

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Frans Thamura fr...@meruvian.org wrote:
 hi all

 i am seeking doc related to JSOM API, and how JOSM communicate with OSM API

 what happen if OSM API patched.

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Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Jo
Shit hits the fan:

I updated to josm-latest 4655 in order to get the latest version of the
license check plugin. Upon rebooting JOSM I get Could not load plugin
licensechange. Delete from preferences?

Disable PI, Keep PI

So I went into the file system and took it out. JOSM complained. I did F12.
It went to fetch it again. After reboot: same problem.

It's annoying, as I worked on a large area and I'd like to upload as
quickly as possible, but I also like to safeguard my hard work by solving
license issues.

Polyglot

2011/12/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org

 Hi,


 On 12/12/2011 11:38 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote:

 When the required version of JOSM increased, update is not possible. In
 this case JOSM stays on old version. You see this indicated by a small
 * in the plugin list of that instance.


 Ah, thanks. I re-built the plugin, let's see if we get flooded with
 complaints now ;)

 Bye
 Frederik

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Re: [josm-dev] Automatic Plugin Update Procedure

2011-12-12 Thread Jo
Same problem in 4639. Where can I get the old plugin which did work?

Jo

2011/12/13 Jo winfi...@gmail.com

 Shit hits the fan:

 I updated to josm-latest 4655 in order to get the latest version of the
 license check plugin. Upon rebooting JOSM I get Could not load plugin
 licensechange. Delete from preferences?

 Disable PI, Keep PI

 So I went into the file system and took it out. JOSM complained. I did
 F12. It went to fetch it again. After reboot: same problem.

 It's annoying, as I worked on a large area and I'd like to upload as
 quickly as possible, but I also like to safeguard my hard work by solving
 license issues.

 Polyglot


 2011/12/12 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org

 Hi,


 On 12/12/2011 11:38 AM, Dirk Stöcker wrote:

 When the required version of JOSM increased, update is not possible. In
 this case JOSM stays on old version. You see this indicated by a small
 * in the plugin list of that instance.


 Ah, thanks. I re-built the plugin, let's see if we get flooded with
 complaints now ;)

 Bye
 Frederik

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Re: [josm-dev] JOSM API

2011-12-12 Thread Frans Thamura
hi paul

where i can get information regarding to 0.7 development?

and which API in JOSM will use 0.7?

i just think JOSM must produce JSOM API, so Java programmer can use
the same api with JSOM for their development

F


On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Paul Hartmann phaau...@googlemail.com wrote:
 On 12/12/2011 06:23 PM, Frans Thamura wrote:
 hi all

 i am seeking doc related to JSOM API, and how JOSM communicate with OSM API

 There is no doc, but all the calls to the OSM API are printed to the
 command line, if you start JOSM from a console window.

 what happen if OSM API patched.

 As soon as API 0.7 is introduced, JOSM will get updated. Not much we can
 do about it right now. Maybe there is a better answer if you tell us
 what the question is about.

 Paul


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