Re: [OSM-dev] Duplicate IDs
On 20 August 2012 08:06, Lukas Kabrt lu...@kabrt.cz wrote: I didn't find any indication that nodes, ways and relations have separate ID spaces, so I assumed that IDs are unique across all OSM entities. Thanks for correcting my mistake. It doesn't say anywhere that they share an ID space either. It certainly never occurred to me that they could, so it would never have occurred to me to state explicitly that they are separate. I think a line in the wiki would be sufficient. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Duplicate IDs
Hi, I admit it is not clearly mentioned on the wiki ( should be changed ), except for: Node id's are unique only between nodes. (A way can have the same id. as a node.) on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Node Thanks for bringing it up :-) Best regards, Christian Vetter On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 8:29 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com wrote: On 20 August 2012 08:06, Lukas Kabrt lu...@kabrt.cz wrote: I didn't find any indication that nodes, ways and relations have separate ID spaces, so I assumed that IDs are unique across all OSM entities. Thanks for correcting my mistake. It doesn't say anywhere that they share an ID space either. It certainly never occurred to me that they could, so it would never have occurred to me to state explicitly that they are separate. I think a line in the wiki would be sufficient. Have a nice day, -- Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com http://svana.org/kleptog/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci
On Aug 12, 2012 8:20 p.m., Jan Schejbal jan.mailinglis...@googlemail.com wrote: Am 2012-08-11 16:19, schrieb Jan Schejbal: Two things remain to be done: Making a decision how to deal with the different license for the preset, and implementing change export (and possibly linking to the help page from within the application). I have now added OsmChange export. If the JOSM format is better for change exports for some reasons, I can change the export format. Why not export to both formats and let users decide on a case-by-case basis? Ken ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers
I do think that some OSM projects would be interested in sharing such a devroom Both projects have similar concerns: - licensing of data - finding open data sources - motivating contributors But there are also differences Wikipedia has more conflicts, so they have more conflict-resolving tools (like a complete anarchy of moderators). Wikipedia could give extra talks about the social aspect of collecting data. OSM data (in contrary to Wikipedia data) can't be used or edited without special software. So we could ask for different software authors. Having a mapping party could be interesting, although I doubt a lot of people would join. There are so many interesting talks on FOSDEM, while you can go out mapping at any time of the year. Some subprojects we could talk about: - H.O.T. project: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Hot - OSM editors: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Editor - Rendering OSM data: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering(probably small renderer like Maperitive or Tilemill is better to talk about than the server-renderer Mapnik, with a workshop render your own maps) - Routing software: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Routing Some of these routes have great algorithms, like Monav. It would also be interesting to discuss the parsing from plain OSM data to a routable graph: how are all those different tags implemented (maxweight, maxheight, speed restrictions, road classifications ... ) to calculate the optimal route - How to get OSM data on existing navigation devices: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin - OSM as offline data on your mobile device: A talk about an app as OsmAnd or Navit (which combines all the uses - rendering, routing and searching - in one app, on a general-purpose mobile device) I think there would be talks enough (and will even have to cut in them) to join a devroom. Regards, Sander 2012/8/13 Jo winfi...@gmail.com I'm adding talk-be to this discussion. I'm living 30km from Brussels, so I can easily come to help with a stand or a dev room. Last year I helped out at the Openstreetmap stand and there was definitely an interest in the project. Do you see a stand in a dev room as some sort of mapping party or an actual effort to create/discuss code of editors/renderers/PostGIS and the like? Polyglot 2012/8/13 Katie Filbert filbe...@gmail.com Would OSM folks be interested in being part of a devroom at FOSDEM? It could make sense to partner with the Wikimedia folks? Who typically handles stuff like this? I've not been to FOSDEM yet but probably will go this year. Cheers, Katie -- Forwarded message -- From: Arthur Richards aricha...@wikimedia.org Date: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Fwd: FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers To: Siebrand mazel...@xs4all.nl, Wikimedia developers wikitec...@lists.wikimedia.org Cc: mediawik...@lists.wikimedia.org It would be awesome if we could put together a devroom at FOSDEM. Over the last couple of years, FOSDEM has become my favorite conference. The ethos of the conference is fantastic - totally grassroots, transparent, and open. It draws an unbelievable crowd. The technical breadth and depth of the talks is generally impressive. And the Wikimedia/Mediawiki-related talks pack the rooms - at least they did the last couple of years. We should have a much bigger presence at this event - from my perspective, it seems like it is a fantastic learning, community building, and recruiting opportunity - perhaps even more so than most of the other conferences at which we have a presence. If folks think this would be something cool to do, it might also be worth teaming with some other similarly-minded orgs with some overlap - like Mozilla, Creative Commons, OLPC, CiviCRM, etc. From the invitation for proposals, it sounds like this would increase our odds at securing a devroom, it would certainly help us further cross-pollinate, and ultimately strengthen the broader open source community. What do you all think? Arthur On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:46 AM, Siebrand Mazeland s.mazel...@xs4all.nl wrote: Forwarded from fos...@lists.fosdem.org. Subscribe at https://lists.fosdem.org/listinfo/fosdem. Siebrand Original Message Subject: [FOSDEM] FOSDEM calls for devroom organizers and main track speakers From:Tias Guns t...@fosdem.org Date:Sun, August 12, 2012 14:40 To: Fosdem Announce fos...@lists.fosdem.org -- help spread the word and make FOSDEM awesome FOSDEM is a non-commercial event offering open source communities a place to meet, share ideas and collaborate. It is renowned for being highly developer-oriented and brings together 5000+ geeks from all over the
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Data tile example site
Hi! I have a big question: Imagine I download one of the tiles and keep it in my hard drive or in a cache or send it to a client to open it in a program. The tiles bounding box or X,Y,Zoom values are not in it so it won't be able to know where to place that tile. I know that when asking for the tile I have those X,Y and Zoom values so I can calculate its position but if it is not written anywhere in the tile. I made some tests with Kothic's tiles allocated at Osmonimski.ru and those tiles at least have their bounding box and also their X,Y and Zoom values explicit in them. 2012/8/17, Michael Daines mich...@mdaines.com: Hi everyone, An example data tile server covering the British Isles is now online: http://data-tiles.mdaines.com/ The library I have been working on is rendering tiles as a Tirex backend using OpenStreetMap data. The map is drawn using Kothic JS over top of image tiles rendered with Mapnik which show land polygons (basically the contents of the layer-shapefiles.xml.inc file in OSM's Mapnik stylesheet). Here is an example data tile: http://data-tiles.mdaines.com/render/16/32744/21792.js The data in the tileset is defined by this configuration file which uses a DSL that works sort of like CSS selectors: https://github.com/mdaines/cover/blob/master/config/render.rb -- Michael ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev -- Ander Pijoan Lamas Ingeniero Técnico en Informática de Gestión Universidad de Deusto Contacto: Email: ander.pij...@deusto.es Móvil: +34 664471228 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] [GSoC] Improvements to Vespucci
Hi, I have made one minor fix to the code (reversing ways did not cause the way to be marked for upload). The official deadline is 19:00 UTC. Please note that I do not intend to abandon the project after finishing GSoC - while I probably won't implement major features, I plan to still do small fixes, especially if they apply to the code written by me. Kind regards, Jan ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger
Hi all, It's my birthday today and I have a tradition of giving a gifts on my birthday. So my birthday gift to the OSM community is Changemonger. Changemonger makes it easier to understand what's going on in an area. The original idea is that you can have useful notifications like this: emacsen added two school, deleted three roads and an untagged node in New York City Changemonger isn't quite there yet, but it's pretty darn close. Right now, it would give you a sentence like: emacsen edited three roads, two schools and an untagged node. The core of Changemonger is a new feature system that's built to be very simple to use and customize. The big feature for Changemonger's feature system is that it supports multiple taxonomies. A police station is a building, a municipal facility, and an emergency service, but buildings, municipal facilities and emergency services are not inter-related. There are lots of other cool stuff being built into Changemonger, beyond the simple interface that's there now. I hope to showcase some of this functionality soon, but I know this is a project some people have shown an interest in, so I wanted to release something early. This early release is fairly fragile, but it supports basic object matching and a first stab at a grouping algorithm. There's a lot more to do before it becomes stable and solid enough for production. The code's on github, here: https://github.com/emacsen/changemonger I don't want to spam the list too much about this, so if you have any technical questions about the code, let me know off-list by email. If there's interest, I'll set up a mailing list about the project and announce it here. Thanks again everyone. - Serge ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger
Hi Serge, We've been e-mailing about this project in private in the context of the activity stream stuff that's slowly being developed for osm.org - I think it would be perfect to have these descriptions in the stream, certainly better than user X entered changeset XYZ or anything else I can come up on my own during activity stream development. I will sink my teeth into your project as soon as I can and we can continue the discussion. For now, happy birthday and good luck with the move again :) Paweł On Mon, Aug 20, 2012, at 16:07, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Hi all, It's my birthday today and I have a tradition of giving a gifts on my birthday. So my birthday gift to the OSM community is Changemonger. Changemonger makes it easier to understand what's going on in an area. The original idea is that you can have useful notifications like this: emacsen added two school, deleted three roads and an untagged node in New York City Changemonger isn't quite there yet, but it's pretty darn close. Right now, it would give you a sentence like: emacsen edited three roads, two schools and an untagged node. The core of Changemonger is a new feature system that's built to be very simple to use and customize. The big feature for Changemonger's feature system is that it supports multiple taxonomies. A police station is a building, a municipal facility, and an emergency service, but buildings, municipal facilities and emergency services are not inter-related. There are lots of other cool stuff being built into Changemonger, beyond the simple interface that's there now. I hope to showcase some of this functionality soon, but I know this is a project some people have shown an interest in, so I wanted to release something early. This early release is fairly fragile, but it supports basic object matching and a first stab at a grouping algorithm. There's a lot more to do before it becomes stable and solid enough for production. The code's on github, here: https://github.com/emacsen/changemonger I don't want to spam the list too much about this, so if you have any technical questions about the code, let me know off-list by email. If there's interest, I'll set up a mailing list about the project and announce it here. Thanks again everyone. - Serge ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger
Pawel, I agree, and activity streams was one of the first use cases for this. One nice thing about Changemonger's open design is that it cares more about collections of elements than changesets, so you could feed it all the changes in area across changesets, and it would be able to tell you something like: On Tuesday there were four roads added This is a fictional example because the code for this isn't written yet, but I think for users, it might make more sense to move away from changesets to the actual changes. The next thing I want to tackle with Changemonger is an RSS - RSS feed translator that turns OSM RSS feeds into the same, but with descriptions people can understand. If you show me what needs to be done on my end to use your Activity Streams stuff, I will push that high on the list. - Serge ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger
Pawel Would be great to hear more about your work on activity streams. Can you fill us in? -Mikel * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron From: Paweł Paprota ppa...@fastmail.fm To: dev@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger Hi Serge, We've been e-mailing about this project in private in the context of the activity stream stuff that's slowly being developed for osm.org - I think it would be perfect to have these descriptions in the stream, certainly better than user X entered changeset XYZ or anything else I can come up on my own during activity stream development. I will sink my teeth into your project as soon as I can and we can continue the discussion. For now, happy birthday and good luck with the move again :) Paweł On Mon, Aug 20, 2012, at 16:07, Serge Wroclawski wrote: Hi all, It's my birthday today and I have a tradition of giving a gifts on my birthday. So my birthday gift to the OSM community is Changemonger. Changemonger makes it easier to understand what's going on in an area. The original idea is that you can have useful notifications like this: emacsen added two school, deleted three roads and an untagged node in New York City Changemonger isn't quite there yet, but it's pretty darn close. Right now, it would give you a sentence like: emacsen edited three roads, two schools and an untagged node. The core of Changemonger is a new feature system that's built to be very simple to use and customize. The big feature for Changemonger's feature system is that it supports multiple taxonomies. A police station is a building, a municipal facility, and an emergency service, but buildings, municipal facilities and emergency services are not inter-related. There are lots of other cool stuff being built into Changemonger, beyond the simple interface that's there now. I hope to showcase some of this functionality soon, but I know this is a project some people have shown an interest in, so I wanted to release something early. This early release is fairly fragile, but it supports basic object matching and a first stab at a grouping algorithm. There's a lot more to do before it becomes stable and solid enough for production. The code's on github, here: https://github.com/emacsen/changemonger I don't want to spam the list too much about this, so if you have any technical questions about the code, let me know off-list by email. If there's interest, I'll set up a mailing list about the project and announce it here. Thanks again everyone. - Serge ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] New Program: Changemonger
On 20/08/12 16:14, Mikel Maron wrote: Would be great to hear more about your work on activity streams. Can you fill us in? The discussion has been taking place on the rails-dev list and on Paweł's pull request: https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/pull/54 Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC-Video based speed limit and roadsign detector and Request for videos of videomapping
Hi, I have uploaded plugins on github at [1] and [2]. wikipage of the project is at [3] [1] https://github.com/nikhil9/ImageProcessor [2] https://github.com/nikhil9/videoplayer [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012/Video_Based_Speed_Limit_and_Road_Sign_Detector_plugin_for_JOSM -- Nikhil ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC-Video based speed limit and roadsign detector and Request for videos of videomapping
Are there installation instructions or a getting started guide? Also, I use photos taken every few seconds. Will this also work with them or would I need to convert them into a movie? With the last update to dev@ being about two months ago this project kind of fell off my radar of projects to watch, I wasn't sure if it was still going on. From: Nikhil Upadhye [mailto:nikhil.spitf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 5:47 PM To: dev@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] GSoC-Video based speed limit and roadsign detector and Request for videos of videomapping Hi, I have uploaded plugins on github at [1] and [2]. wikipage of the project is at [3] [1] https://github.com/nikhil9/ImageProcessor [2] https://github.com/nikhil9/videoplayer [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2012/Video_Based_Sp eed_Limit_and_Road_Sign_Detector_plugin_for_JOSM -- Nikhil ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
