Re: [OSM-dev] Is there or should there be an OSM approved work exchange forum? (Jo Walsh)
On 13/02/15 13:19, Richard Welty wrote: On 2/13/15 7:00 AM, dev-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: From: Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net Do OSM freelance developers typically hang out in one place, or is there a jobs list or similar? at one point i had been talking to Mike Collinson about setting up an osm-jobs list. we didn't really put it into service, but i'm still interested in doing it. if anyone else speaks up in favor and there are no major objections, i'll see about doing it. +1 from an OSM-Freelancer :-) the premise is that it would be for osm related work only (including projects that are using osm tools not necessarily with osm data.) job advertisements for non-osm geo work would not be welcome. Sounds reasonable. richard Thanks, Michael -- Michael Maier, Student of Telematics @ Graz University of Technology OpenStreetMap Graz http://osm.org/go/0Iz@paV http://wiki.osm.org/Graz http://wiki.osm.org/Graz/Stammtisch signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is there or should there be an OSM approved work exchange forum? (Jo Walsh)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, On 02/13/2015 01:19 PM, Richard Welty wrote: the premise is that it would be for osm related work only (including projects that are using osm tools not necessarily with osm data.) job advertisements for non-osm geo work would not be welcome. Please also make (and enforce) a decision about whether, and in what form, OSM professional services firms are allowed to participate. I am one of the directors of Geofabrik. I never advertise our services directly in the OSM lists/forums, and when someone asks on help.osm I always point them to the list of businesses on the wiki (which, as has been correctly remarked, cries out for some editing but understandably I am keeping out of that). If such a list were created, I would like to see rules about (a) whether it is ok for me as a business to solicit the help of freelancers in projects, and (b) whether it is ok for me as a business to reply to inquiries about services, and whether such replies ought to be public or private. I don't mind either way and will happily adapt to whatever rules are set, I'm just keen on having a level and clearly defined playing field - - and not one where business opportunities depend on how brazen the PR person is ;) Of course such a list could not be approved in any way like the subject line suggests, because who would be approving? Bye Frederik - -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU3ggzAAoJEOx/uhGAJu9Ha/8H/RrBr/A/7MFp1c6mg0tu+Sf9 rr1sRaclQJPPqRzMQdgsefsVsKs84jHWDA4gGXyqTU2AVqy7WhLsAuvCzyi29ixV 1AxDpftrqDfJKvC4kiCbgWQ9POk5VqsJq8POIy5BNJC2daFjZiFqiZUvLIo6UPCD QZ5mg7tjeLJp8Ajntegi9SrA5nQA48Alh9QEbLuPgKU/Jh9bF2ZCoA2VE3Y9srqY arscrcqmvXsmaBZwniv/Cp1iCky1uHw9VqmuvQL3NCoo1CypwT0f+c7qcWb2ekYz pwVJSnsKj54Baikq2HFEhhozMNpXsSaB5CRPrecukGzbM7bkTxTnplMMdIQ7BNk= =J367 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is there or should there be an OSM approved work exchange forum? (Jo Walsh)
Please also make (and enforce) a decision about whether, and in what form, OSM professional services firms are allowed to participate. ... Of course such a list could not be approved in any way like the subject line suggests, because who would be approving? The community of people for whose benefit decisions are enforced? ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is there or should there be an OSM approved work exchange forum? (Jo Walsh)
Hi, On 02/13/2015 05:13 PM, Jo Walsh wrote: Of course such a list could not be approved in any way like the subject line suggests, because who would be approving? The community of people for whose benefit decisions are enforced? Ok then let's call it self-approved ;) Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Peter Barth osm-p...@won2.de wrote: Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. However, I believe that GSoC is a great experience for students, draws attention to OSM and gets some coding done, so we should participate (as we have for many years now). Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. Please comment, object or step forward to do it yourself. Hi Peter, I'm happy to help make this happen. Can you (and Tordanik) send me an e-mail and we can work together on the application? We can definitely get it done before the deadline. -Ian ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. However, I believe that GSoC is a great experience for students, draws attention to OSM and gets some coding done, so we should participate (as we have for many years now). Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. Please comment, object or step forward to do it yourself. Thanks, Peda ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Peter Barth osm-p...@won2.de wrote: Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. That's not true at all. I was discussing this with Kate Chapam just yesterday, and was discussing how successful our last two years have been. I was the mentor for our project last year. Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. I just don't have a good grasp of the application process, but I'd be happy to mentor again. - Serge ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
I certainly don't object to you doing all the grunt work :-) I have a concrete project, that would be really cool if we'd be able to get it started as a GSoC project: a plugin for JOSM to enable working with Mapillary pictures. I said I'd like to attempt it (that even made it to WeeklyOSM...), but I'm not able to pull it off. Not being a Java developer and such proves to be more of a handicap, than I had hoped. Me and Holger did outline what we'd like to see implemented in the plugin and we're trying to get started on it, but I'm lacking the ability and he's lacking the time. Still I think a student who does know his way around Java, Eclipse and SVN wouldn't have much trouble doing it and he will certainly be supported by the other developers of JOSM when he asks questions on the mailing list. Do you think such a project makes a good chance to be chosen as a GSoC project? And are we likely to find a student interested in it? (I can look for a student in the university of my home town, and I'm sure I'll meet people who'd be able to do the same in The Netherlands where I'm going to the Missing Maps hackathon tomorrow). Of course, we can look in many universities around the world. I can communicate in English, Spanish, French and even though I cannot really help the student out with development questions, I can do some follow up of the project). I'd also be interested to develop the plugin further and maintain it after the GSoC ends. Polyglot 2015-02-13 20:43 GMT+01:00 Peter Barth osm-p...@won2.de: Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. However, I believe that GSoC is a great experience for students, draws attention to OSM and gets some coding done, so we should participate (as we have for many years now). Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. Please comment, object or step forward to do it yourself. Thanks, Peda ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Peter Barth osm-p...@won2.de wrote: Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. That's not true at all. I was discussing this with Kate Chapam just yesterday, and was discussing how successful our last two years have been. Hi Serge and Peter - HOT is planning to apply for GSoC as well, see my previous email to the list [1]. We don't want by any mean overlap efforts, but instead collaborate if there are projects that could benefit both HOT and the OSM community in general. Let us know if you see anything that may be more relevant to the humanitarian OSM mapping, and please add it to the list here [2] I was the mentor for our project last year. Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. I just don't have a good grasp of the application process, but I'd be happy to mentor again. The main part of the organization application - which is due in 7 days - is a list of proposed project ideas, with details for what each one requires. See more information here [3]. In addition you have to answer a list of about 11 questions [4]. Cheers, Cristiano [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2015-February/028292.html [2] https://github.com/hotosm/HOT-Project-Ideas/labels/GSoC2015 [3] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#3._What_is_an_Ideas_list [4] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#2._What_should_a_mentoring_organization ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Application for Google Summer of Code 2015
Hi All, I just wanted to mention that I specifically talked to GSoC about if it was an issue if OSM and HOT applied separately. They said it wasn't. Key is to have solid applications and have really good project lists. Serge, I think over the past two years what has been helpful is OSM hasn't had a ton of students. Instead we've had just a few, that way we get people really interested. The years before when we were getting 6 or 7 slots it was hard to find mentors and hard to find quality interested students. Best, -Kate On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Cristiano Giovando cristiano.giova...@hotosm.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Serge Wroclawski emac...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Peter Barth osm-p...@won2.de wrote: Hi, there seems nobody eager to apply to GSoC this year. That's not true at all. I was discussing this with Kate Chapam just yesterday, and was discussing how successful our last two years have been. Hi Serge and Peter - HOT is planning to apply for GSoC as well, see my previous email to the list [1]. We don't want by any mean overlap efforts, but instead collaborate if there are projects that could benefit both HOT and the OSM community in general. Let us know if you see anything that may be more relevant to the humanitarian OSM mapping, and please add it to the list here [2] I was the mentor for our project last year. Tordanik and I are willing to step forward and do the administrative tasks, including applying OpenStreetMap to GSoC. As time rushes, we will wait for this weekend for any objections. We also hope to get access to the (admin) documents of last year's application. I just don't have a good grasp of the application process, but I'd be happy to mentor again. The main part of the organization application - which is due in 7 days - is a list of proposed project ideas, with details for what each one requires. See more information here [3]. In addition you have to answer a list of about 11 questions [4]. Cheers, Cristiano [1] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/dev/2015-February/028292.html [2] https://github.com/hotosm/HOT-Project-Ideas/labels/GSoC2015 [3] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#3._What_is_an_Ideas_list [4] http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2015/help_page#2._What_should_a_mentoring_organization ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] Is there or should there be an OSM approved work exchange forum? (Jo Walsh)
On 2/13/15 7:00 AM, dev-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: From: Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net Do OSM freelance developers typically hang out in one place, or is there a jobs list or similar? at one point i had been talking to Mike Collinson about setting up an osm-jobs list. we didn't really put it into service, but i'm still interested in doing it. if anyone else speaks up in favor and there are no major objections, i'll see about doing it. the premise is that it would be for osm related work only (including projects that are using osm tools not necessarily with osm data.) job advertisements for non-osm geo work would not be welcome. richard -- rwe...@averillpark.net Averill Park Networking - GIS IT Consulting OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux Java - Web Applications - Search signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
