Re: [OSM-dev] All possible fields of an address object in Open Street Map

2020-05-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Mo., 11. Mai 2020 um 16:33 Uhr schrieb Eugene Alvin Villar <
sea...@gmail.com>:

> I am sorry because my reply is not directly related to your questions, but
> please see the following article when considering building a worldwide
> address framework or database:
> https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/
>
> This also means that addresses in OSM is very much inconsistent and
> incomplete both on the data side and on the tagging side.
>


it could become your task to make an addition to the address tagging scheme
if what we have so far isn't suitable for your area. It's how it is
evolving: people proposing additions to meet with their local requirements.

Cheers
Martin
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Re: [OSM-dev] All possible fields of an address object in Open Street Map

2020-05-11 Thread Eugene Alvin Villar
I am sorry because my reply is not directly related to your questions, but
please see the following article when considering building a worldwide
address framework or database:
https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/

This also means that addresses in OSM is very much inconsistent and
incomplete both on the data side and on the tagging side.

On Mon, May 11, 2020 at 9:18 PM Pascal Girard 
wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I apologize in advance if this is the incorrect contact channel for my
> question.
> I posted it on OSM help forum in April and I had no answer.
>
> I am developping a web application and I use Nominatin service to get
> addresses.
>
> In JSON format, Nominatin sends an address object like this : "address":
> {"road": "Hillcrest Road", "suburb": "Gidea Park", "city": "London Borough
> of Havering", "state_district": "Grand Londres","state": "Angleterre",
> "postcode": "RM11 1EA", "country": "Royaume-Uni", "country_code": "gb"}. Of
> course, address fields change depending on the country.
>
> In the database of our web application, we would like to build a table to
> store all fields of an address object of OSM, because we want to be
> compatible to all addresses around the world. I've been looking for days,
> for the list of all fields contained in an address object of OSM : on the
> net, in documentations, in nominatim and osm2pgsql code.
>
> I saw this post on Open Street Map Help :
> "https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/61683/all-possible-fields-of-address-object;
> 
> .
>
> But :
>
>- 1) it was in January 2018,
>- 2) the answer was
>
> "https://github.com/OpenCageData/address-formatting/blob/master/conf/components.yaml;
>
> 
>- 3) and
>
> "https://github.com/openstreetmap/Nominatim/blob/6c1977b448e8b195bf96b6144674ffe0527e79de/lib/lib.php#L63;
>
> 
>
> The "https://github.com/osm-search/Nominatim/blob/v3.4.1/lib/lib.php;
>  is
> different than witch I quoted above in point 3).
>
> Concerning the above point 2) :
>
>- is OSM (Nominatim) using OpenCageData address-formatting ?
>- Can I rely on it to build my address table ?
>
> Please help me...
>
> Many thanks in advance for your response.
>
>
> Pascal Girard
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Re: [OSM-dev] All possible fields of an address object in Open Street Map

2020-05-11 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via dev
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses may be helpful, it is an attempt 
to
document how addresses are tagged in OSM


> is OSM (Nominatim) using OpenCageData address-formatting ?"

Depends on what you mean by that. Nominatim is extracting geocoding info
from OSM (and it may or may not use OpenCageData address-formatting)

OSM (database edited by mappers) is not using OpenCageData format
but its own tagging system documented in 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses

BTW, if https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses will be confusing or 
unclear please comment
at 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Addresses=edit=new
and there is decent chance that documentation will be improved

May 11, 2020, 15:06 by pascal.gir...@insa-lyon.fr:

> Good morning,
>  
>  I apologize in advance if this is the incorrect contact channel formy 
> question.
>  I posted it on OSM help forum in April and I had no answer.
>  
>
> I am developping a web application and I use Nominatin service to  get 
> addresses.
>
>
> In JSON format, Nominatin sends an address object like this :  "address": 
> {"road": "Hillcrest Road", "suburb": "Gidea Park",  "city": "London 
> Borough of Havering", "state_district": "Grand  Londres","state": 
> "Angleterre", "postcode": "RM11 1EA", "country":  "Royaume-Uni", 
> "country_code": "gb"}. Of course, address fields  change depending on the 
> country.
>
>
> In the database of our web application, we would like to build a  table 
> to store all fields of an address object of OSM, because we  want to be 
> compatible to all addresses around the world. I've been  looking for 
> days, for the list of all fields contained in an  address object of OSM : 
> on the net, in documentations, in  nominatim and osm2pgsql code.
>
>
> I saw this post on Open Street Map Help : > 
> "https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/61683/all-possible-fields-of-address-object;
>  
> >
>  .
>
>
> But :
>
> 1) it was in January 2018,
> 2) the answer was > 
> "https://github.com/OpenCageData/address-formatting/blob/master/conf/components.yaml;
>  
> 
> 3) and > 
> "https://github.com/openstreetmap/Nominatim/blob/6c1977b448e8b195bf96b6144674ffe0527e79de/lib/lib.php#L63;
>  
> 
>
> The > "https://github.com/osm-search/Nominatim/blob/v3.4.1/lib/lib.php; 
> >  is 
> different than witch I quoted above in point 3).
>
>
> Concerning the above point 2) :
>
> is OSM (Nominatim) using OpenCageData address-formatting ?
> Can I rely on it to build my address table ?
>
> Please help me...
>
>
> Many thanks in advance for your response.
>
>
>
>
> Pascal Girard
>

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[OSM-dev] All possible fields of an address object in Open Street Map

2020-05-11 Thread Pascal Girard

Good morning,

I apologize in advance if this is the incorrect contact channel for my 
question.

I posted it on OSM help forum in April and I had no answer.

I am developping a web application and I use Nominatin service to get 
addresses.


In JSON format, Nominatin sends an address object like this : "address": 
{"road": "Hillcrest Road", "suburb": "Gidea Park", "city": "London 
Borough of Havering", "state_district": "Grand Londres","state": 
"Angleterre", "postcode": "RM11 1EA", "country": "Royaume-Uni", 
"country_code": "gb"}. Of course, address fields change depending on the 
country.


In the database of our web application, we would like to build a table 
to store all fields of an address object of OSM, because we want to be 
compatible to all addresses around the world. I've been looking for 
days, for the list of all fields contained in an address object of OSM : 
on the net, in documentations, in nominatim and osm2pgsql code.


I saw this post on Open Street Map Help : 
"https://help.openstreetmap.org/questions/61683/all-possible-fields-of-address-object;.


But :

 * 1) it was in January 2018,
 * 2) the answer was
   
"https://github.com/OpenCageData/address-formatting/blob/master/conf/components.yaml;
 * 3) and
   
"https://github.com/openstreetmap/Nominatim/blob/6c1977b448e8b195bf96b6144674ffe0527e79de/lib/lib.php#L63;

The "https://github.com/osm-search/Nominatim/blob/v3.4.1/lib/lib.php; is 
different than witch I quoted above in point 3).


Concerning the above point 2) :

 * is OSM (Nominatim) using OpenCageData address-formatting ?
 * Can I rely on it to build my address table ?

Please help me...

Many thanks in advance for your response.


Pascal Girard
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