Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-03-01 Thread Sven Geggus
Skye Book skye.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the clear explanation.. That meshes well with what I understood
 from reading the wiki and cursory looks at source code

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tirex/Overview has a nice diagram about
how the different modules communicate.

It is possible to run different backends in parallel.

Sven

-- 
How to prevent Java from forking? Use a spoon.
(Found on http://slashdot.org)

/me is giggls@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web

___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


[OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Skye Book
Hi all,

We're looking to setup mod_tile to serve arbitrary tiles (i.e: not 
OpenStreetMap).  Is there a way to change out the use of Mapnik in favor of 
running another application/script/whatever to render the tile to disk?

Thanks,
-Skye
___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Tom MacWright
Hi there,

There's no need to swap out Mapnik - it's a general purpose renderer which
can run on any kind of data. You might want to check out
https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/wiki/LearningMapnik for an intro of Mapnik
 it's styling language(s)

Tom

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Skye Book skye.b...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,

 We're looking to setup mod_tile to serve arbitrary tiles (i.e: not
 OpenStreetMap).  Is there a way to change out the use of Mapnik in favor of
 running another application/script/whatever to render the tile to disk?

 Thanks,
 -Skye
 ___
 dev mailing list
 dev@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Skye Book
Hi Tom,

Thanks for this, I only have a passing acquaintance with Mapnik.. didn't know 
it was flexible enough to do this sort of thing.  Thanks for the quick response!

-Skye

On Feb 29, 2012, at 2:17 PM, Tom MacWright wrote:

 Hi there,
 
 There's no need to swap out Mapnik - it's a general purpose renderer which 
 can run on any kind of data. You might want to check out 
 https://github.com/mapnik/mapnik/wiki/LearningMapnik for an intro of Mapnik  
 it's styling language(s)
 
 Tom
 
 On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 2:14 PM, Skye Book skye.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 We're looking to setup mod_tile to serve arbitrary tiles (i.e: not 
 OpenStreetMap).  Is there a way to change out the use of Mapnik in favor of 
 running another application/script/whatever to render the tile to disk?
 
 Thanks,
 -Skye
 ___
 dev mailing list
 dev@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
 


Skye Book
(516) 816-4762

___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Peter Körner

Hi

take a look at tirex, it's mod_tile's successor and it has a general interface 
to renderers (via UDP or Domain Sockets, afair).

Peter


Am 29.02.2012 20:14, schrieb Skye Book:

Hi all,

We're looking to setup mod_tile to serve arbitrary tiles (i.e: not 
OpenStreetMap).  Is there a way to change out the use of Mapnik in favor of 
running another application/script/whatever to render the tile to disk?

Thanks,
-Skye
___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev



___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Skye Book
Hi Peter,
I was under the impression that Tirex sat behind mod_tile.. It's meant to
replace it?
On Feb 29, 2012 6:11 PM, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote:

 Hi

 take a look at tirex, it's mod_tile's successor and it has a general
 interface to renderers (via UDP or Domain Sockets, afair).

 Peter


 Am 29.02.2012 20:14, schrieb Skye Book:

 Hi all,

 We're looking to setup mod_tile to serve arbitrary tiles (i.e: not
 OpenStreetMap).  Is there a way to change out the use of Mapnik in favor of
 running another application/script/whatever to render the tile to disk?

 Thanks,
 -Skye
 __**_
 dev mailing list
 dev@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/devhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev



 __**_
 dev mailing list
 dev@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/devhttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev

___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Kai Krueger

Skye Book wrote
 
 Hi Peter,
 I was under the impression that Tirex sat behind mod_tile.. It's meant to
 replace it?
 

There is often a lot of confusion about the naming around mod_tile and what
it is.

mod_tile it self is an apache module that is responsible for serving tiles
and deciding which tiles are out of date and need re-rendering. mod_tile
however doesn't do any rendering itself and is thus agnostic to the
underlying rendering.

mod_tile talks to a rendering backend via a (tcp?) socket.

Currently there are two different rendering backends, renderd and tirex.
Renderd was the original rendering backend and its source directory lives in
the mod_tile directory of the openstreetmap svn directory. Therefore
mod_tile and renderd are often not properly distinguished. Renderd only
supports mapnik as a renderer.

Tirex is a replacement for renderd and works together with mod_tile.
(Although there might also be a replacement component for mod_tile, I am not
sure).

Tirex is more flexible with respect to the actual renderer and it currently
has plugins to render tiles via mapnik, mapserver or WMS. I am also
currently working on a geojson vector renderer for tirex and it is
relatively easy to extend it with further rendering plugins depending on
your needs. tiles.osm.org however continues to use renderd for rendering.

So in case you don't want to use mapnik for rendering, you are probably best
off with the combination of mod_tile and tirex.

Kai


--
View this message in context: 
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Using-custom-renderer-with-mod-tile-tp5525843p5526495.html
Sent from the Developer Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev


Re: [OSM-dev] Using custom renderer with mod_tile

2012-02-29 Thread Skye Book
Kai,

Thanks for the clear explanation.. That meshes well with what I understood from 
reading the wiki and cursory looks at source code

-Skye

On Feb 29, 2012, at 7:50 PM, Kai Krueger wrote:

 
 Skye Book wrote
 
 Hi Peter,
 I was under the impression that Tirex sat behind mod_tile.. It's meant to
 replace it?
 
 
 There is often a lot of confusion about the naming around mod_tile and what
 it is.
 
 mod_tile it self is an apache module that is responsible for serving tiles
 and deciding which tiles are out of date and need re-rendering. mod_tile
 however doesn't do any rendering itself and is thus agnostic to the
 underlying rendering.
 
 mod_tile talks to a rendering backend via a (tcp?) socket.
 
 Currently there are two different rendering backends, renderd and tirex.
 Renderd was the original rendering backend and its source directory lives in
 the mod_tile directory of the openstreetmap svn directory. Therefore
 mod_tile and renderd are often not properly distinguished. Renderd only
 supports mapnik as a renderer.
 
 Tirex is a replacement for renderd and works together with mod_tile.
 (Although there might also be a replacement component for mod_tile, I am not
 sure).
 
 Tirex is more flexible with respect to the actual renderer and it currently
 has plugins to render tiles via mapnik, mapserver or WMS. I am also
 currently working on a geojson vector renderer for tirex and it is
 relatively easy to extend it with further rendering plugins depending on
 your needs. tiles.osm.org however continues to use renderd for rendering.
 
 So in case you don't want to use mapnik for rendering, you are probably best
 off with the combination of mod_tile and tirex.
 
 Kai
 
 
 --
 View this message in context: 
 http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Using-custom-renderer-with-mod-tile-tp5525843p5526495.html
 Sent from the Developer Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
 
 ___
 dev mailing list
 dev@openstreetmap.org
 http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev



___
dev mailing list
dev@openstreetmap.org
http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev