Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:32 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The database is in read-only mode so there are no changes being made. The API went back to normal, read - write operation a few hours ago. Either on schedule or slightly ahead of schedule. :-) By popular demand for mappers, minutely diffs will be provided during this transitional period. They will be unusual[1] so evaluate carefully if you want to consume these diffs or not. There will be another change to the ODbL diffs, at the completion of the license upgrade. The same caution to evaluate when you wish to transition to the new or the ODbL diffs holds. [1] They'll include changes by the background cleaning script so the diffs will be larger than usual. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Sergey Galuzo ser...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Also, Hey, Microsoft is consuming diffs? Want to tell us about the cool things your are doing with OSM data? :-) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
Hi, [1] They'll include changes by the background cleaning script so the diffs will be larger than usual. This is interesting, is there any blog post/wiki page explaning this ? (I read : http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/04/04/api-read-write-returns/ ) Sorry if I missed it, but is the redaction process ran as any ususal edit process ? is there an identified account all redaction is done with ? Can I assume, that, after consumtion of all redacted diffs (in an osm2pgsql like scenario, ie : no history kept) my database only contains odbl licenced data in the end ? Again, if all that is answered somewhere I missed, could you give me a pointer to it ? -- sly qui suis-je : http://sly.letuffe.org email perso : sylvain chez letuffe un point org ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
Hi, On 04/04/2012 04:56 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: Sorry if I missed it, but is the redaction process ran as any ususal edit process ? Yes, this is the current plan. is there an identified account all redaction is done with ? No, the account has not yet been identified. Can I assume, that, after consumtion of all redacted diffs (in an osm2pgsql like scenario, ie : no history kept) my database only contains odbl licenced data in the end ? Yes, but for legal reasons you will still have to drop your database and reimport after OSMF declares the switch to ODbL. (Because it is not possible to add diffs to something that is CC-BY-SA and thereby magically make it ODbL.) Of course, since what you have after applying the diffs and what you have after doing a full reload should not be any different, nobody would notice... Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
Hi, I am not sure if I can add anything now to what already known. http://www.businessinsider.com/microsofts-brilliant-plan-to-beat-google-maps-2012-3?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Thanks, Sergey. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:42 AM To: Sergey Galuzo Cc: OpenStreetMap dev list Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Sergey Galuzo ser...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Also, Hey, Microsoft is consuming diffs? Want to tell us about the cool things your are doing with OSM data? :-) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
This might be getting off-topic to this list but to respond: according to this article[1], the author has contacted Bing and that Bing stated that they use no OSM data whatsoever. I know that Bing is just a part of Microsoft, but if you are asking about OSM diffs using a Microsoft email address, then people will rightly be curious what Microsoft might be doing with OSM data when Bing, which is the most likely candidate for using OSM data, says they're not using it. According to your LinkedIn profile, you are the Principal Database Architect at Microsoft so might it be that you are simply interested in OSM data for being a humongous dataset. Is this correct? [1] http://thenextweb.com/insider/2012/03/27/googles-loss-microsofts-gain-and-apples-passing-fancy-meet-openstreetmap/ On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Sergey Galuzo ser...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi, I am not sure if I can add anything now to what already known. http://www.businessinsider.com/microsofts-brilliant-plan-to-beat-google-maps-2012-3?utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=twitter Thanks, Sergey. -Original Message- From: Richard Weait [mailto:rich...@weait.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 7:42 AM To: Sergey Galuzo Cc: OpenStreetMap dev list Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 2:13 PM, Sergey Galuzo ser...@microsoft.com wrote: Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Also, Hey, Microsoft is consuming diffs? Want to tell us about the cool things your are doing with OSM data? :-) ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
[OSM-dev] minute dumps
Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Thanks, Sergey. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
See http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/27/service-schedule-march-april-2012/ Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ On 4/3/2012 2:13 PM, Sergey Galuzo wrote: Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Thanks, Sergey. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
Re: [OSM-dev] minute dumps
The database is in read-only mode so there are no changes being made. You will need to reload your database when the license change process is completed (estimated sometime after April 9th). http://blog.osmfoundation.org/2012/03/27/service-schedule-march-april-2012/ has a schedule. From: Sergey Galuzo [mailto:ser...@microsoft.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 11:14 AM To: 'OpenStreetMap dev list' Subject: [OSM-dev] minute dumps Hi, I cannot find recent minute diffs. Last one was created on April 1. Is there something wrong? Thanks, Sergey. ___ dev mailing list dev@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/dev
