Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-16 Thread Komяpa
There is MediaWiki plugin with setup instructions:
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Piwik_Integration

пт, 16 дек. 2016 г. в 15:11, Tom Hughes :

> On 16/12/16 12:08, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:
> > I've changed the wiki page not to list awstats anymore.Â
> >
> > There is also stray entries on awstats
> > in https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/statsÂ
> and
> > stray DNS entries
> > inÂ
> https://git.openstreetmap.org/dns.git/blob/HEAD:/src/openstreetmap#l218Â
> >
> > Can Piwik be added to wiki to make the requested data publicly
> available?
>
> I can create a "site" for it in piwik, if somebody knows how to add the
> client code to the wiki.
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-16 Thread Tom Hughes

On 16/12/16 12:08, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:

I've changed the wiki page not to list awstats anymore.Â

There is also stray entries on awstats
in https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/stats and
stray DNS entries
in https://git.openstreetmap.org/dns.git/blob/HEAD:/src/openstreetmap#l218Â

Can Piwik be added to wiki to make the requested data publicly available?


I can create a "site" for it in piwik, if somebody knows how to add the 
client code to the wiki.


Tom

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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-16 Thread Komяpa
I've changed the wiki page not to list awstats anymore.

There is also stray entries on awstats in
https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/stats and stray
DNS entries in
https://git.openstreetmap.org/dns.git/blob/HEAD:/src/openstreetmap#l218

Can Piwik be added to wiki to make the requested data publicly available?

пт, 16 дек. 2016 г. в 14:53, Tom Hughes :

> On 16/12/16 11:47, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:
>
> > I would like to get daily statistics on wiki page views:Â
> > Â - URL;
> > Â - User count;
> > Â - Page view count (for page reopens);
> > Â - Where user comes from (referrer), where they go afterwards;
> > Â - Country / Language.
> >
> > This data should be available in Piwik.
>
> No it isn't, because the wiki doesn't use Piwik.
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-16 Thread Tom Hughes

On 16/12/16 11:47, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:


I would like to get daily statistics on wiki page views:Â
 - URL;
 - User count;
 - Page view count (for page reopens);
 - Where user comes from (referrer), where they go afterwards;
 - Country / Language.

This data should be available in Piwik.


No it isn't, because the wiki doesn't use Piwik.

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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-16 Thread Komяpa
Thanks.

I would like to get daily statistics on wiki page views:
 - URL;
 - User count;
 - Page view count (for page reopens);
 - Where user comes from (referrer), where they go afterwards;
 - Country / Language.

This data should be available in Piwik.


> >
> > > What is current way to look at statistics on osm.org
> >  
> > > visits, planet accesses and wiki popularity?
> >
> > I don't think there are any public statistics.
> >
> > Â
> > Are there non-public statistics?
> > Ghostery extension suggests there is Piwik installation on osm.org
> > .
>
> Yes we are running piwik.
>
> > It's generally a tricky thing to do because of the privacy issues
> > involved and the need to make sure things are aggregated into big
> enough
> > buckets to avoid revealing anything we shouldn't.
> >
> > What exactly and why shouldn't be revealed?
>
> Well anything that can identify an individual, which might include
> aggregated values if buckets are too small.
>
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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-13 Thread Tom Hughes

On 13/12/16 11:50, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:


вт, 13 дек. 2016 г. в 13:55, Tom Hughes >:

On 13/12/16 10:33, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:

> It lists awstats for www, planet, and wiki. They all are down.

Interesting. I wasn't aware that had ever been public.

I think it does still try to run but frankly it's pretty hopeless with
the volume of data we have I think.


Looking
at https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/stats -
it should be public. No auth attempts that I see in configs.


I just meant I wasn't aware it was, not that it wasn't meant to be.

I think that was originally setup before I was involved, which shows how 
long ago it was ;-)



Â

> What is current way to look at statistics on osm.org
 
> visits, planet accesses and wiki popularity?

I don't think there are any public statistics.

Â
Are there non-public statistics?
Ghostery extension suggests there is Piwik installation on osm.org
.


Yes we are running piwik.


It's generally a tricky thing to do because of the privacy issues
involved and the need to make sure things are aggregated into big enough
buckets to avoid revealing anything we shouldn't.

What exactly and why shouldn't be revealed?


Well anything that can identify an individual, which might include 
aggregated values if buckets are too small.


Tom

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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-13 Thread Komяpa
вт, 13 дек. 2016 г. в 13:55, Tom Hughes :

> On 13/12/16 10:33, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:
>
> > It lists awstats for www, planet, and wiki. They all are down.
>
> Interesting. I wasn't aware that had ever been public.
>
> I think it does still try to run but frankly it's pretty hopeless with
> the volume of data we have I think.
>

Looking at https://github.com/openstreetmap/chef/tree/master/cookbooks/stats -
it should be public. No auth attempts that I see in configs.


> > What is current way to look at statistics on osm.org 
> > visits, planet accesses and wiki popularity?
>
> I don't think there are any public statistics.
>

Are there non-public statistics?
Ghostery extension suggests there is Piwik installation on osm.org.

It's generally a tricky thing to do because of the privacy issues
> involved and the need to make sure things are aggregated into big enough
> buckets to avoid revealing anything we shouldn't.
>

What exactly and why shouldn't be revealed?
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Re: [OSM-dev] OpenStreetMap.org site statistics

2016-12-13 Thread Tom Hughes

On 13/12/16 10:33, Darafei "Komяpa" Praliaskouski wrote:


It lists awstats for www, planet, and wiki. They all are down.


Interesting. I wasn't aware that had ever been public.

I think it does still try to run but frankly it's pretty hopeless with 
the volume of data we have I think.



What is current way to look at statistics on osm.org 
visits, planet accesses and wiki popularity?


I don't think there are any public statistics.

It's generally a tricky thing to do because of the privacy issues 
involved and the need to make sure things are aggregated into big enough 
buckets to avoid revealing anything we shouldn't.


Tom

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