Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Paul Norman 

On 3/21/2017 8:02 AM, Hakuch wrote:

On 21.03.2017 02:50, Paul Norman wrote:

On 3/20/2017 9:22 AM, Hakuch wrote:
It depends. For projects that produce webpages, there's probably more
Ruby activity than PHP activity. Python is also pretty popular.

did you want to say "projects that do NOT produce webpages" ? Then I
would agree with you, because usually you only do webpages with PHP


No - this was about projects which produced web pages, with the second 
paragraph about projects which involved APIs over HTTP(s). Given the 
initial question mentioned rails, I focused on stuff which is accessible 
in some way over HTTP(s).


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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe 
On 21.03.2017 16:02, Hakuch wrote:

> did you want to say "projects that do NOT produce webpages" ? Then I
> would agree with you, because usually you only do webpages with PHP

I actually mostly use PHP for building Code Generators these days,
and for writing database test scripts, not so much for interactive
stuff anymore.

But then again I've got hart...@php.net as one of my primary mail
addresses, so I might be spoiled ;)

-- 
hartmut

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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Hakuch 
On 21.03.2017 02:50, Paul Norman wrote:
> On 3/20/2017 9:22 AM, Hakuch wrote:
> It depends. For projects that produce webpages, there's probably more
> Ruby activity than PHP activity. Python is also pretty popular.

did you want to say "projects that do NOT produce webpages" ? Then I
would agree with you, because usually you only do webpages with PHP



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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Hakuch 
On 21.03.2017 09:47, Rory McCann wrote:
> On 20.03.2017 17:22, Hakuch wrote:
> You should start your new project in whatever you feel most comfortable
> in.

thats the problem that I would feel comfortable with both of them and
their (dis)advantages ;) I would even like the idea to make it easier
for people to contribute because many of them had learned php a bit in
the past, but frederik is true that symfony is still another barrier...
so rails might be even more accessible


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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-21 Thread Rory McCann 

On 20.03.2017 17:22, Hakuch wrote:

What do you think, are there more php or more ruby developers in OSM ?
Normally within open source projects people tend to use ruby, but many
times I saw small projects coded in php. Iam currently unsure if I
should start a new project with php/symfony or ruby/rails.


You should start your new project in whatever you feel most comfortable
in. Like vast majority of FLOSS software, you're going to be doing
99.% of the work for the next 5 years, so you might as well take the
easiest path you can.

Don't worry about what the cool kids are doing, just get results.

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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-20 Thread Paul Norman 

On 3/20/2017 9:22 AM, Hakuch wrote:

What do you think, are there more php or more ruby developers in OSM ?
Normally within open source projects people tend to use ruby, but many
times I saw small projects coded in php. Iam currently unsure if I
should start a new project with php/symfony or ruby/rails.


It depends. For projects that produce webpages, there's probably more 
Ruby activity than PHP activity. Python is also pretty popular.


For web-based APIs, I don't see PHP often used in OSM. Ruby on rails and 
Python are both common, and you also see Go, nodejs, and C++.


All of these languages have advantages and disadvantages and none of 
them is appropriate for everything.


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Re: [OSM-dev] PHP vs. Ruby in OSM projects

2017-03-20 Thread Matthijs Melissen 
On 20 March 2017 at 17:22, Hakuch  wrote:
> What do you think, are there more php or more ruby developers in OSM ?
> Normally within open source projects people tend to use ruby, but many
> times I saw small projects coded in php. Iam currently unsure if I
> should start a new project with php/symfony or ruby/rails.

Many people are moving towards Django. For new projects, I think it's
the way to go.

-- Matthijs

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