Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:04:41PM -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: I prefer keeping the lambda in it.[1] Also r is much less unique.[2] 1+ (or 1!) _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:00:37 -0700 Jordan Schatz jor...@noionlabs.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:04:41PM -0500, Eli Barzilay wrote: I prefer keeping the lambda in it.[1] Also r is much less unique.[2] 1+ (or 1!) +wau - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLkou8NvJo s. -- This is why Science and Mathematics are still much fun: You discover things that seem impossible to be true and then get to figure out why it's impossible for them not to be. -- Vi Hart: Spirals, Fibonacci, and Being a Plant, Part 3 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
+1 At Thu, 9 Feb 2012 22:34:31 +, Stephen De Gabrielle wrote: +1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy j...@cs.byu.edu Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay The glory of God is Intelligence - DC 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- -- Stephen De Gabrielle stephen.degabrie...@acm.org Telephone +44 (0)20 85670911 Mobile+44 (0)79 85189045 http://www.degabrielle.name/stephen Professor: Oh God! I clicked without reading! Cubert: And I slightly modified something I own! Professor: We're monsters! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Apparently I was confused, and didn't realize that this wasn't a discussion but a change that is already the default. I put it there to make easy for people to see it in one of the more prominent places where it will appear, not because this isn't a discussion. Software makes it easy to change these things. ;) Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
An hour and a half ago, Robby Findler wrote: On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:04 PM, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: Apparently I was confused, and didn't realize that this wasn't a discussion but a change that is already the default. I put it there to make easy for people to see it in one of the more prominent places where it will appear, not because this isn't a discussion. Software makes it easy to change these things. ;) I was confused by the commit -- I thought that you added a plt magic combo for the startup that shows the new one, not the other way. In any case, I'll try to explain my opinion about this. The first thing that I don't like is the lack of λ. The visual pun is mostly lost (and for a good reason: try to rotate+mirror it to a λ and you'll see that it's barely recognizable), and I think many will view it as just a weird r. This is very different from the realm of racket logo (http://tmp.barzilay.org/ror.jpg) logo that is an excellent pun (and which incidentally will get mostly trashed if the racket logo changes to the suggested one). So if the decision is to do that, the next thing that me dislike it is that it's *just* an r. It's not the first character in Racket, it's not a unique operator in the language, it's just an r. It's true that it's a pretty r, but it really does look like it is just going straight down the twitter/facebook/google path, making it even more of a non-statement. A logo is IMO an important aspect, and you don't need to be a graphic designer to know that a logo is important visual identity -- and as such I *really* don't want the racket identity to be stylish r, especially not when stylish lowercase character is so chewed up. This is why I suggested adding some acket, so it's not doing that. It's true that at tiny sizes (favicon) it will have to be dropped, but at least the full version provides (in my view) some good excuse for the small version being acket-less. I did a quick sketch for this here: http://tmp.barzilay.org/r.png If I need to quantify my choices from 1 to -1, they would be 70% for the current one (not 100% since I'm fine with some refreshing), 10% for some version with acket, and -70% for the suggested character-less-imo r. -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
Eli Barzilay wrote at 02/09/2012 09:27 PM: ([2] What Neil VD said.) It's just Neil V. -- no social diseases. -- http://www.neilvandyke.org/ _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
Of these two, I like the second (plastic) one a bit better. The blue in the glass is distracting to me. Careful that it doesn't look too much like the new Pepsi logo, which has its own burden: http://blowatlife.blogspot.com/2009/02/pepsi-logo-response.html I still like the current lambda logo. Though the lowercase 'R' letter would hang out better with the typical icons for Twitter and Facebook. And peeve Ruby and R people. Marijn wrote at 02/09/2012 11:17 AM: On 09-02-12 02:18, Robby Findler wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Ooh, shiny! Marijn _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
+1 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy j...@cs.byu.edu Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay The glory of God is Intelligence - DC 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
+1 On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Jay McCarthy jay.mccar...@gmail.com wrote: +1 On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Robby Findler ro...@eecs.northwestern.edu wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- Jay McCarthy j...@cs.byu.edu Assistant Professor / Brigham Young University http://faculty.cs.byu.edu/~jay The glory of God is Intelligence - DC 93 _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev -- -- Stephen De Gabrielle stephen.degabrie...@acm.org Telephone +44 (0)20 85670911 Mobile+44 (0)79 85189045 http://www.degabrielle.name/stephen Professor: Oh God! I clicked without reading! Cubert: And I slightly modified something I own! Professor: We're monsters! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
Yesterday, Robby Findler wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. I prefer keeping the lambda in it.[1] Also r is much less unique.[2] ([1] IOW, the new logos have an r and I need to tilt my head and look at a mirror to see an ugly lambda; I'd prefer it the other way: a clear λ with a hint of an r.) ([2] What Neil VD said.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
(BTW, unless the transparency is needed, a jpg file is better for such images -- about half the size with a 94% compression quality.) -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
An hour and a half ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: Yesterday, Robby Findler wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. I prefer keeping the lambda in it.[1] Also r is much less unique.[2] ([1] IOW, the new logos have an r and I need to tilt my head and look at a mirror to see an ugly lambda; I'd prefer it the other way: a clear λ with a hint of an r.) ([2] What Neil VD said.) Apparently I was confused, and didn't realize that this wasn't a discussion but a change that is already the default. Can we at least get acket added at the bottom so the new logo is not just r? Please? -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
i also thought you were all discussing it. i'm not a fan of dropping the lambda. the coloring looks ok. it took me a second to recognize the r as an r. of the two, i also like the plastic one to the glass one On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 23:04, Eli Barzilay e...@barzilay.org wrote: An hour and a half ago, Eli Barzilay wrote: Yesterday, Robby Findler wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. I prefer keeping the lambda in it.[1] Also r is much less unique.[2] ([1] IOW, the new logos have an r and I need to tilt my head and look at a mirror to see an ugly lambda; I'd prefer it the other way: a clear λ with a hint of an r.) ([2] What Neil VD said.) Apparently I was confused, and didn't realize that this wasn't a discussion but a change that is already the default. Can we at least get acket added at the bottom so the new logo is not just r? Please? -- ((lambda (x) (x x)) (lambda (x) (x x))) Eli Barzilay: http://barzilay.org/ Maze is Life! _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
[racket-dev] Racket logo
John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Robby _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
Re: [racket-dev] Racket logo
On 2012-02-08 19:18:47 -0600, Robby Findler wrote: John Clements and Neil Toronto have put together a new Racket logo that I've just put on the DrRacket splash screen. See what you think. Very nice work! I think it will take some getting used to, but I like how energetic it is. Cheers, Asumu _ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
[racket-dev] Racket logo: SVG version
I recently searched for a vector or high-resolution raster version of the Racket logo (that would be suitable for print) but did not have any luck. In a 2009 thread on the users mailing list [1], I found that the current logo is rendered using POV-Ray, so a vector format of the logo likely does not exist. I tried recreated the logo myself, and I am attaching the result to this email, in case it may be of use to the Racket team. Note that this SVG 1.1 file makes use of an opacity gradient as well as a blend filter; the result is not rendered consistently across multiple applications. Of the applications that I have tried, it looks fine in InkScape 0.47 but not in Firefox/Aurora 9.0.1 (both on 64-bit Debian Linux). Travis [1] http://lists.racket-lang.org/users/archive/2009-October/thread.html#36178 attachment: RacketLogo.svg_ Racket Developers list: http://lists.racket-lang.org/dev
