Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Piotr,

changes are live!

to fit logos, I must to pass all in a software to put in concrete sizes, so
all looks in the same width and height and aspect ratios. for that reason
the logo was showing too bigger.

best :)

Carlos

2018-04-06 13:54 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :

> Carlos,
>
> I just updated logo with transparent background.
>
> Many Thanks!
>
> 2018-04-06 13:25 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
>
> > Hi Piotr,
> >
> > ok, I'm to leave now, but I'll do ASAIC.
> > Can you provide a logo in PNG with transparent bg?. That one is white
> > below.
> >
> > In the other hand, just my constructive opinion. The logo used in website
> > seems to me more modern and clean than the moon one, for that reason I
> > choose the one it's now
> > But this is up to moonshine to decide and we put it accordingly, just my
> > opinion here since, you know, I always put much care for UX/UI and things
> > look and feel. A good logo can sell a product! :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-06 13:14 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
> >
> > > Hi Carlos,
> > >
> > > I would like to change Moonshine IDE logo, but it looks like I'm not at
> > > good in that. :) Can you take a look once you get a change. I've
> uploaded
> > > logo, but it's too big. :)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > 2018-04-02 19:43 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
> > >
> > > > Ok,
> > > >
> > > > updated Prominic to Prominic.NET and change again from more easy to
> > > easier
> > > >
> > > > This changes are now live.
> > > >
> > > > thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Carlos
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-04-02 0:27 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki  >:
> > > >
> > > > > Carlos,
> > > > >
> > > > > The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your update!
> > > > > Piotr
> > > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> > > > > > as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> > > > > > thanks! :)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > > cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher <
> > > dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Ok Dave,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for
> > > "supported"
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > "not
> > > > > > > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > thanks!
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Carlos
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <
> > dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > >:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application
> > > development,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> think
> > > > > > > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > > > > > > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop
> > Royale
> > > > > apps,
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > > > > > > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more
> > > > explanations,
> > > > > > > >> since a
> > > > > > > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be
> > > > > explained
> > > > > > > as a
> > > > > > > >> >> footnote.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new
> or
> > > > > unknown
> > > > > > > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit
> > and
> > > > must
> > > > > > > >> remain
> > > > > > > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >> Regards,
> > > > > > > >> >> Dave
> > > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree
> > that
> > > > > > there's
> > > > > > > >> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Carlos,

I just updated logo with transparent background.

Many Thanks!

2018-04-06 13:25 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :

> Hi Piotr,
>
> ok, I'm to leave now, but I'll do ASAIC.
> Can you provide a logo in PNG with transparent bg?. That one is white
> below.
>
> In the other hand, just my constructive opinion. The logo used in website
> seems to me more modern and clean than the moon one, for that reason I
> choose the one it's now
> But this is up to moonshine to decide and we put it accordingly, just my
> opinion here since, you know, I always put much care for UX/UI and things
> look and feel. A good logo can sell a product! :)
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> 2018-04-06 13:14 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
>
> > Hi Carlos,
> >
> > I would like to change Moonshine IDE logo, but it looks like I'm not at
> > good in that. :) Can you take a look once you get a change. I've uploaded
> > logo, but it's too big. :)
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Piotr
> >
> > 2018-04-02 19:43 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
> >
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > updated Prominic to Prominic.NET and change again from more easy to
> > easier
> > >
> > > This changes are now live.
> > >
> > > thanks!
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-04-02 0:27 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
> > >
> > > > Carlos,
> > > >
> > > > The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for your update!
> > > > Piotr
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> > > > > as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> > > > > thanks! :)
> > > > >
> > > > > 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > > > >
> > > > > > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher <
> > dave2w...@comcast.net
> > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Ok Dave,
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for
> > "supported"
> > > > and
> > > > > > "not
> > > > > > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > thanks!
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > Carlos
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net
> > >:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application
> > development,
> > > > so
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> think
> > > > > > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > > > > > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop
> Royale
> > > > apps,
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > > > > > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more
> > > explanations,
> > > > > > >> since a
> > > > > > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be
> > > > explained
> > > > > > as a
> > > > > > >> >> footnote.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or
> > > > unknown
> > > > > > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit
> and
> > > must
> > > > > > >> remain
> > > > > > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >> Regards,
> > > > > > >> >> Dave
> > > > > > >> >>
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree
> that
> > > > > there's
> > > > > > >> some
> > > > > > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > > > > > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow
> > > more
> > > > > > >> related
> > > > > > >> >> to
> > > > > > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > > > > > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs
> > are
> > > > > users
> > > > > > >> of
> > > > > > >> >> our
> > > > > > >> >>> community.
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from
> > IDEs
> > > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > > >> >>> thanks
> > > > > > 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[RAT-Moonshine]

--
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Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Piotr,

ok, I'm to leave now, but I'll do ASAIC.
Can you provide a logo in PNG with transparent bg?. That one is white below.

In the other hand, just my constructive opinion. The logo used in website
seems to me more modern and clean than the moon one, for that reason I
choose the one it's now
But this is up to moonshine to decide and we put it accordingly, just my
opinion here since, you know, I always put much care for UX/UI and things
look and feel. A good logo can sell a product! :)

Thanks!



2018-04-06 13:14 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :

> Hi Carlos,
>
> I would like to change Moonshine IDE logo, but it looks like I'm not at
> good in that. :) Can you take a look once you get a change. I've uploaded
> logo, but it's too big. :)
>
> Thanks,
> Piotr
>
> 2018-04-02 19:43 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
>
> > Ok,
> >
> > updated Prominic to Prominic.NET and change again from more easy to
> easier
> >
> > This changes are now live.
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-02 0:27 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
> >
> > > Carlos,
> > >
> > > The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"
> > >
> > > Thanks for your update!
> > > Piotr
> > >
> > > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> > > > as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> > > > thanks! :)
> > > >
> > > > 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > > >
> > > > > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher <
> dave2w...@comcast.net
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards,
> > > > > >> Dave
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Ok Dave,
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for
> "supported"
> > > and
> > > > > "not
> > > > > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > thanks!
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > Carlos
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher  >:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application
> development,
> > > so
> > > > I
> > > > > >> think
> > > > > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > > > > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale
> > > apps,
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > > > > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more
> > explanations,
> > > > > >> since a
> > > > > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be
> > > explained
> > > > > as a
> > > > > >> >> footnote.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or
> > > unknown
> > > > > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and
> > must
> > > > > >> remain
> > > > > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >> Regards,
> > > > > >> >> Dave
> > > > > >> >>
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that
> > > > there's
> > > > > >> some
> > > > > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > > > > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow
> > more
> > > > > >> related
> > > > > >> >> to
> > > > > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > > > > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs
> are
> > > > users
> > > > > >> of
> > > > > >> >> our
> > > > > >> >>> community.
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from
> IDEs
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> thanks
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> Carlos
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com
> > > >:
> > > > > >> >>>
> > > > > >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just
> > > > naturally
> > > > > >> >> support
> > > > > >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if
> > you
> > > > > know
> > > > > >> >> what
> > > > > >>  you're doing. 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Hi Carlos,

I would like to change Moonshine IDE logo, but it looks like I'm not at
good in that. :) Can you take a look once you get a change. I've uploaded
logo, but it's too big. :)

Thanks,
Piotr

2018-04-02 19:43 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :

> Ok,
>
> updated Prominic to Prominic.NET and change again from more easy to easier
>
> This changes are now live.
>
> thanks!
>
> Carlos
>
>
> 2018-04-02 0:27 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :
>
> > Carlos,
> >
> > The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"
> >
> > Thanks for your update!
> > Piotr
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
> >
> > > ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> > > as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> > > thanks! :)
> > >
> > > 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >
> > > > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards,
> > > > >> Dave
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Ok Dave,
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported"
> > and
> > > > "not
> > > > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > thanks!
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > Carlos
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development,
> > so
> > > I
> > > > >> think
> > > > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > > > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale
> > apps,
> > > > and
> > > > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > > > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more
> explanations,
> > > > >> since a
> > > > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be
> > explained
> > > > as a
> > > > >> >> footnote.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or
> > unknown
> > > > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and
> must
> > > > >> remain
> > > > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Regards,
> > > > >> >> Dave
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that
> > > there's
> > > > >> some
> > > > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > > > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow
> more
> > > > >> related
> > > > >> >> to
> > > > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > > > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are
> > > users
> > > > >> of
> > > > >> >> our
> > > > >> >>> community.
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> thanks
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> Carlos
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > >> >>>
> > > > >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just
> > > naturally
> > > > >> >> support
> > > > >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if
> you
> > > > know
> > > > >> >> what
> > > > >>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> > > > >> >> difference?
> > > > >> 
> > > > >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > > >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > > > >>  wrote:
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but
> > AFAICT
> > > > >> people
> > > > >>  are
> > > > >> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think
> Om
> > is
> > > > >> one of
> > > > >> >> them.
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although
> I
> > do
> > > > use
> > > > >> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > > > >> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Ok,

updated Prominic to Prominic.NET and change again from more easy to easier

This changes are now live.

thanks!

Carlos


2018-04-02 0:27 GMT+02:00 Piotr Zarzycki :

> Carlos,
>
> The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"
>
> Thanks for your update!
> Piotr
>
> On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira  wrote:
>
> > ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> > as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> > thanks! :)
> >
> > 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> > > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Carlos,
> > > >>
> > > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > > >>
> > > >> Regards,
> > > >> Dave
> > > >>
> > > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Ok Dave,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported"
> and
> > > "not
> > > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > > >> >
> > > >> > thanks!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Carlos
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Hi,
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development,
> so
> > I
> > > >> think
> > > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale
> apps,
> > > and
> > > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations,
> > > >> since a
> > > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be
> explained
> > > as a
> > > >> >> footnote.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or
> unknown
> > > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must
> > > >> remain
> > > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Regards,
> > > >> >> Dave
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that
> > there's
> > > >> some
> > > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more
> > > >> related
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are
> > users
> > > >> of
> > > >> >> our
> > > >> >>> community.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> thanks
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Carlos
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore  >:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just
> > naturally
> > > >> >> support
> > > >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you
> > > know
> > > >> >> what
> > > >>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> > > >> >> difference?
> > > >> 
> > > >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > > >>  wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but
> AFAICT
> > > >> people
> > > >>  are
> > > >> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om
> is
> > > >> one of
> > > >> >> them.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I
> do
> > > use
> > > >> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > > >> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would
> just
> > > >> confuse
> > > >>  our
> > > >> > users.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the
> > NextGenAS
> > > >>  plugin.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks,
> > > >> > Om
> > > >> >
> > > >> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij
> > > via a
> > > >> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see
> how
> > > >> hard it
> > > >>  is.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are
> working
> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Piotr Zarzycki]

Carlos,

The name of the Prominic should be - "Prominic.NET"

Thanks for your update!
Piotr

On Mon, Apr 2, 2018, 00:06 Carlos Rovira  wrote:

> ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> thanks! :)
>
> 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>
> > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > >>
> > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Ok Dave,
> > >> >
> > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and
> > "not
> > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > >> >
> > >> > thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Carlos
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so
> I
> > >> think
> > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps,
> > and
> > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations,
> > >> since a
> > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained
> > as a
> > >> >> footnote.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
> > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must
> > >> remain
> > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that
> there's
> > >> some
> > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more
> > >> related
> > >> >> to
> > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are
> users
> > >> of
> > >> >> our
> > >> >>> community.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> thanks
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Carlos
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >> >>>
> > >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just
> naturally
> > >> >> support
> > >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you
> > know
> > >> >> what
> > >>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> > >> >> difference?
> > >> 
> > >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT
> > >> people
> > >>  are
> > >> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is
> > >> one of
> > >> >> them.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do
> > use
> > >> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > >> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just
> > >> confuse
> > >>  our
> > >> > users.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the
> NextGenAS
> > >>  plugin.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Om
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij
> > via a
> > >> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how
> > >> hard it
> > >>  is.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working
> > >> with
> > >> >> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e
> > Royale
> > >> > project
> > >> >> creation, royale library creation,...)
> > >> >> for me it's ok to list there
> > >> >>
> > >> >> thanks for your revision! :)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Carlos
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore  >:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports
> > >> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

Curiously, I also changed "more easy" to "easier". Did we end up with
"easier easier"?

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Carlos Rovira 
wrote:

> ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
> as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
> thanks! :)
>
> 2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>
> > Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I will do a text review very shortly
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Carlos,
> > >>
> > >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Dave
> > >>
> > >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Ok Dave,
> > >> >
> > >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and
> > "not
> > >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> > >> >
> > >> > thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > Carlos
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Hi,
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so
> I
> > >> think
> > >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps,
> > and
> > >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations,
> > >> since a
> > >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained
> > as a
> > >> >> footnote.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
> > >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must
> > >> remain
> > >> >> vendor neutrality.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Regards,
> > >> >> Dave
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that
> there's
> > >> some
> > >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more
> > >> related
> > >> >> to
> > >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are
> users
> > >> of
> > >> >> our
> > >> >>> community.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> thanks
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Carlos
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >> >>>
> > >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just
> naturally
> > >> >> support
> > >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you
> > know
> > >> >> what
> > >>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> > >> >> difference?
> > >> 
> > >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > >>  wrote:
> > >> 
> > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT
> > >> people
> > >>  are
> > >> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is
> > >> one of
> > >> >> them.
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do
> > use
> > >> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > >> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just
> > >> confuse
> > >>  our
> > >> > users.
> > >> >
> > >> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the
> NextGenAS
> > >>  plugin.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks,
> > >> > Om
> > >> >
> > >> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij
> > via a
> > >> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how
> > >> hard it
> > >>  is.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working
> > >> with
> > >> >> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e
> > Royale
> > >> > project
> > >> >> creation, royale library creation,...)
> > >> >> for me it's ok to list there
> > >> >>
> > >> >> thanks for your revision! :)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Carlos
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore  >:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports
> > >> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

ok Andrew, I changed "easier" for "more easy" as Dave suggested,
as you give me green light with Thanks-to, I'll be publishing
thanks! :)

2018-04-01 23:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :

> Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> wrote:
>
> > I will do a text review very shortly
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Carlos,
> >>
> >> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Ok Dave,
> >> >
> >> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and
> "not
> >> > supported", let me know what do you think
> >> >
> >> > thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Carlos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I
> >> think
> >> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> >> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps,
> and
> >> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> >> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations,
> >> since a
> >> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> >> >>
> >> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained
> as a
> >> >> footnote.
> >> >>
> >> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
> >> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must
> >> remain
> >> >> vendor neutrality.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Dave
> >> >>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's
> >> some
> >> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> >> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more
> >> related
> >> >> to
> >> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> >> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users
> >> of
> >> >> our
> >> >>> community.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> >> >>>
> >> >>> thanks
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Carlos
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >> >>>
> >>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally
> >> >> support
> >>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you
> know
> >> >> what
> >>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> >> >> difference?
> >> 
> >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT
> >> people
> >>  are
> >> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is
> >> one of
> >> >> them.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do
> use
> >> > Intellij for all my other development.
> >> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just
> >> confuse
> >>  our
> >> > users.
> >> >
> >> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
> >>  plugin.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Om
> >> >
> >> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij
> via a
> >> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how
> >> hard it
> >>  is.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working
> >> with
> >> >> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e
> Royale
> >> > project
> >> >> creation, royale library creation,...)
> >> >> for me it's ok to list there
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks for your revision! :)
> >> >>
> >> >> Carlos
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >> >>
> >> >>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports
> >> Royale,
> >>  so
> >> > I
> >> >>> just looked at the existing text.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> a
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> >> >> IntelliJ.
> >>  Unless I missed this development?
> >> 
> >>  Thanks,
> >>  Om
> >> 
> >>  On Sun, Apr 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

Did a quick pass on the IDEs page. Good to go now.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 6:10 PM, Andrew Wetmore  wrote:

> I will do a text review very shortly
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:
>
>> Hi Carlos,
>>
>> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Ok Dave,
>> >
>> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and "not
>> > supported", let me know what do you think
>> >
>> > thanks!
>> >
>> > Carlos
>> >
>> >
>> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
>> >
>> >>
>> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira 
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi,
>> >>>
>> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I
>> think
>> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
>> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
>> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
>> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations,
>> since a
>> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
>> >>
>> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as a
>> >> footnote.
>> >>
>> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
>> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must
>> remain
>> >> vendor neutrality.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Dave
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's
>> some
>> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
>> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more
>> related
>> >> to
>> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
>> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users
>> of
>> >> our
>> >>> community.
>> >>>
>> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
>> >>>
>> >>> thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Carlos
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>> >>>
>>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally
>> >> support
>>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know
>> >> what
>>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
>> >> difference?
>> 
>>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT
>> people
>>  are
>> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is
>> one of
>> >> them.
>> >>
>> >
>> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
>> > Intellij for all my other development.
>> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just
>> confuse
>>  our
>> > users.
>> >
>> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
>>  plugin.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Om
>> >
>> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
>> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how
>> hard it
>>  is.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working
>> with
>> >> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
>> > project
>> >> creation, royale library creation,...)
>> >> for me it's ok to list there
>> >>
>> >> thanks for your revision! :)
>> >>
>> >> Carlos
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>> >>
>> >>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports
>> Royale,
>>  so
>> > I
>> >>> just looked at the existing text.
>> >>>
>> >>> a
>> >>>
>> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
>> >> IntelliJ.
>>  Unless I missed this development?
>> 
>>  Thanks,
>>  Om
>> 
>>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
>>  cottag...@gmail.com
>> >>
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> > I have found the path now.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
>> > cottag...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
>> > confusing.
>> >> I
>> >> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
>> >>
>> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

I will do a text review very shortly


On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Dave Fisher  wrote:

> Hi Carlos,
>
> Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ok Dave,
> >
> > as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and "not
> > supported", let me know what do you think
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> >
> >>
> >>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I
> think
> >>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> >>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
> >>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> >>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, since
> a
> >>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
> >>
> >> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as a
> >> footnote.
> >>
> >> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
> >> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must remain
> >> vendor neutrality.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's
> some
> >>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> >>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more related
> >> to
> >>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> >>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users of
> >> our
> >>> community.
> >>>
> >>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> >>>
> >>> thanks
> >>>
> >>> Carlos
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >>>
>  There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally
> >> support
>  Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know
> >> what
>  you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> >> difference?
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira  >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT
> people
>  are
> >> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one
> of
> >> them.
> >>
> >
> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just
> confuse
>  our
> > users.
> >
> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
>  plugin.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard
> it
>  is.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> >> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> > project
> >> creation, royale library creation,...)
> >> for me it's ok to list there
> >>
> >> thanks for your revision! :)
> >>
> >> Carlos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >>
> >>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
>  so
> > I
> >>> just looked at the existing text.
> >>>
> >>> a
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> >> IntelliJ.
>  Unless I missed this development?
> 
>  Thanks,
>  Om
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
>  cottag...@gmail.com
> >>
>  wrote:
> 
> > I have found the path now.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> > confusing.
> >> I
> >> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >>> carlosrov...@apache.org
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> > that
> >>> you
> >>> correct in the page directly freely.
> >>> That would be more quick right?
> >>>
> >>> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Dave Fisher]

Hi Carlos,

Looks good. One comment “more easy” is better as “easier”

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:47 PM, Carlos Rovira  wrote:
> 
> Ok Dave,
> 
> as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and "not
> supported", let me know what do you think
> 
> thanks!
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> 
>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I think
>>> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
>>> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
>>> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
>>> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, since a
>>> webpage should be simple and black or white.
>> 
>> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as a
>> footnote.
>> 
>> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
>> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must remain
>> vendor neutrality.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> 
>>> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's some
>>> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
>>> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more related
>> to
>>> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
>>> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users of
>> our
>>> community.
>>> 
>>> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
>>> 
>>> thanks
>>> 
>>> Carlos
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>>> 
 There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally
>> support
 Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know
>> what
 you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
>> difference?
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
 wrote:
 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
> 
>> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people
 are
>> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
>> them.
>> 
> 
> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
> Intellij for all my other development.
> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse
 our
> users.
> 
> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
 plugin.
> 
> Thanks,
> Om
> 
> P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
> plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it
 is.
> 
> 
> 
> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
>> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> project
>> creation, royale library creation,...)
>> for me it's ok to list there
>> 
>> thanks for your revision! :)
>> 
>> Carlos
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>> 
>>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
 so
> I
>>> just looked at the existing text.
>>> 
>>> a
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>> bigosma...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
>> IntelliJ.
 Unless I missed this development?
 
 Thanks,
 Om
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
 cottag...@gmail.com
>> 
 wrote:
 
> I have found the path now.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> confusing.
>> I
>> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>>> carlosrov...@apache.org
> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> that
>>> you
>>> correct in the page directly freely.
>>> That would be more quick right?
>>> 
>>> thanks!
>>> 
>>> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
 cottag...@gmail.com
>> :
>>> 
 There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
>> suggested
>>> changes
 in about an hour.
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
>>> cottag...@gmail.com
> 
 wrote:

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

I will get back to the pages within two hours. Cooking supper right now!

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 5:42 PM, Carlos Rovira 
wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> I updated the pages with the latest things commented here, could you do a
> final review as you can?
>
> thanks!
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> 2018-04-01 22:41 GMT+02:00 Carlos Rovira :
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > 2018-04-01 21:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :
> >
> >> Hi -
> >>
> >> A few comments;
> >>
> >> (1) We need to have a disclaimer of sorts after the logos.
> >> For thanks-to: “These are companies that are known to have helped the
> >> project. If you know of others please let us know.”
> >>
> >
> > done
> >
> >
> >> For IDEs: “These IDEs either offer native support or can be made to work
> >> for Royale development. If you know of any others and wish to share your
> >> environments then please let us know.”
> >>
> >>
> > done
> >
> >
> >> (2) If an IDE requires special non-out of the box configuration then we
> >> ought to have a special page to link to where we provide that
> >> configuration. I think that this would cover the IntelliJ case.
> >>
> >>
> >  I opted to put two lines "official support" and "not official support",
> > let me know what do you think
> >
> >
> >> (3) The links should be “nofollow” links as Justin mentioned.
> >>
> >
> > done in both pages and open in other window like with the other external
> > links in the web
> >
> >
> >>
> >> (4) Going forward we need to be carefully to not pay any favorites what
> >> so ever. If a company demonstrably meets these supports we must include
> the
> >> links.
> >>
> >
> > ok
> >
> >
> >>
> >> (5) If any of these third parties wants to link back to us then we
> should
> >> be sure to check to make sure that they are meeting Apache Branding
> >> requirements.
> >>
> >
> > ok, we don't expect that in thanks to companies, but we should expect
> that
> > as people use Royale in their Apps or if start to be a relevant
> technology
> > companies and other third parties should start to put logos and referrals
> > to us saying "we have the skills to develop with Apache Royale if you
> want
> > us to do so"
> > in IDEs both has links to us, what I think is normal
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Dave
> >>
> >> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Carlos Rovira 
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people
> >> are
> >> > using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
> >> them.
> >> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> >> > IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> >> project
> >> > creation, royale library creation,...)
> >> > for me it's ok to list there
> >> >
> >> > thanks for your revision! :)
> >> >
> >> > Carlos
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >> >
> >> >> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
> so
> >> I
> >> >> just looked at the existing text.
> >> >>
> >> >> a
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> >> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> >> IntelliJ.
> >> >>> Unless I missed this development?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks,
> >> >>> Om
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com>
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  I have found the path now.
> >> 
> >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com>
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> confusing. I
> >> > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> >> carlosrov...@apache.org
> >> 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> that
> >> >> you
> >> >> correct in the page directly freely.
> >> >> That would be more quick right?
> >> >>
> >> >> thanks!
> >> >>
> >> >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >> >>
> >> >>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
> suggested
> >> >> changes
> >> >>> in about an hour.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> >> >> cottag...@gmail.com
> >> 
> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >>>
> >>  I will take a look
> >> 
> >> 
> >>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> >> >
> >> > @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling
> >> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Ok Dave,

as I explained in my last email I put two lines for "supported" and "not
supported", let me know what do you think

thanks!

Carlos


2018-04-01 22:31 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :

>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I think
> > we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> > But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
> > there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> > I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, since a
> > webpage should be simple and black or white.
>
> When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as a
> footnote.
>
> We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown
> supporters can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must remain
> vendor neutrality.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> >
> > Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's some
> > kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> > We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more related
> to
> > its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> > reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users of
> our
> > community.
> >
> > So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> >
> > thanks
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> >> There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally
> support
> >> Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know
> what
> >> you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the
> difference?
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people
> >> are
>  using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
>  them.
> 
> >>>
> >>> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
> >>> Intellij for all my other development.
> >>> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse
> >> our
> >>> users.
> >>>
> >>> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
> >> plugin.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>> P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
> >>> plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it
> >> is.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
>  IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> >>> project
>  creation, royale library creation,...)
>  for me it's ok to list there
> 
>  thanks for your revision! :)
> 
>  Carlos
> 
> 
> 
>  2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> 
> > Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
> >> so
> >>> I
> > just looked at the existing text.
> >
> > a
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
>  bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
>  IntelliJ.
> >> Unless I missed this development?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Om
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
> >> cottag...@gmail.com
> 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have found the path now.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> >>> cottag...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> >>> confusing.
>  I
>  cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org
> >>>
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> >>> that
> > you
> > correct in the page directly freely.
> > That would be more quick right?
> >
> > thanks!
> >
> > 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> >> cottag...@gmail.com
>  :
> >
> >> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
>  suggested
> > changes
> >> in about an hour.
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I will take a look
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  Hi,
> 
>  just put 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Dave,

2018-04-01 21:45 GMT+02:00 Dave Fisher :

> Hi -
>
> A few comments;
>
> (1) We need to have a disclaimer of sorts after the logos.
> For thanks-to: “These are companies that are known to have helped the
> project. If you know of others please let us know.”
>

done


> For IDEs: “These IDEs either offer native support or can be made to work
> for Royale development. If you know of any others and wish to share your
> environments then please let us know.”
>
>
done


> (2) If an IDE requires special non-out of the box configuration then we
> ought to have a special page to link to where we provide that
> configuration. I think that this would cover the IntelliJ case.
>
>
 I opted to put two lines "official support" and "not official support",
let me know what do you think


> (3) The links should be “nofollow” links as Justin mentioned.
>

done in both pages and open in other window like with the other external
links in the web


>
> (4) Going forward we need to be carefully to not pay any favorites what so
> ever. If a company demonstrably meets these supports we must include the
> links.
>

ok


>
> (5) If any of these third parties wants to link back to us then we should
> be sure to check to make sure that they are meeting Apache Branding
> requirements.
>

ok, we don't expect that in thanks to companies, but we should expect that
as people use Royale in their Apps or if start to be a relevant technology
companies and other third parties should start to put logos and referrals
to us saying "we have the skills to develop with Apache Royale if you want
us to do so"
in IDEs both has links to us, what I think is normal

Thanks



>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
> >
> > I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people are
> > using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
> them.
> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> > IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> project
> > creation, royale library creation,...)
> > for me it's ok to list there
> >
> > thanks for your revision! :)
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> >> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so I
> >> just looked at the existing text.
> >>
> >> a
> >>
> >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> IntelliJ.
> >>> Unless I missed this development?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Om
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I have found the path now.
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
>  wrote:
> 
> > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrov...@apache.org
> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that
> >> you
> >> correct in the page directly freely.
> >> That would be more quick right?
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >>
> >>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
> >> changes
> >>> in about an hour.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> >> cottag...@gmail.com
> 
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  I will take a look
> 
> 
>  On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> >
> > @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling
> >> you
>  want
> > directly in the website?
> >
> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> >
> > if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> >
> > I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >
> 
> 
> 
>  --
>  Andrew Wetmore
> 
>  http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Andrew Wetmore
> >>>
> >>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Dave Fisher]

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Carlos Rovira  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I think
> we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
> But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
> there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
> I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, since a
> webpage should be simple and black or white.

When it is not black and white then the list needs to be explained as a 
footnote.

We really do need to make sure that people know that new or unknown supporters 
can be added. Apache is a tax free non-profit and must remain vendor neutrality.

Regards,
Dave

> 
> Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's some
> kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
> We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more related to
> its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
> reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users of our
> community.
> 
> So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs
> 
> thanks
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> 
>> There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally support
>> Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know what
>> you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the difference?
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people
>> are
 using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
 them.
 
>>> 
>>> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
>>> Intellij for all my other development.
>>> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse
>> our
>>> users.
>>> 
>>> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
>> plugin.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
>>> plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it
>> is.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
 IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
>>> project
 creation, royale library creation,...)
 for me it's ok to list there
 
 thanks for your revision! :)
 
 Carlos
 
 
 
 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
 
> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
>> so
>>> I
> just looked at the existing text.
> 
> a
> 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
 bigosma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
 IntelliJ.
>> Unless I missed this development?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
>> cottag...@gmail.com
 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I have found the path now.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
>>> cottag...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
>>> confusing.
 I
 cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org
>>> 
 wrote:
 
> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
>>> that
> you
> correct in the page directly freely.
> That would be more quick right?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
>> cottag...@gmail.com
 :
> 
>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
 suggested
> changes
>> in about an hour.
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com
>>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I will take a look
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 Hi,
 
 just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE
>>> pages.
 
 @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any
>>> spelling
> you
>>> want
 directly in the website?
 
 https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
 https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
 
 if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
 
 I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi,

Regarding IntelliJ: Piotr uses it for Application development, so I think
we can maintain JetBrains thanks to.
But as there's no body using it as an IDE for develop Royale apps, and
there's no support, we should remove it from IDEs.
I don't think we should confuse visitors with more explanations, since a
webpage should be simple and black or white.

Regarding thanks to for Prominic and BowlerHat, I agree that there's some
kind of relation, maybe not directly related.
We can add them, although is on the limit since is somehow more related to
its own projects than to Royale, although that projects
reverts in part in our community since users of their IDEs are users of our
community.

So ok, I'll be adding both now and removing IntelliJ from IDEs

thanks

Carlos



2018-04-01 21:20 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :

> There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally support
> Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know what
> you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the difference?
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people
> are
> > > using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
> > > them.
> > >
> >
> > No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
> > Intellij for all my other development.
> > More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse
> our
> > users.
> >
> > I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS
> plugin.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
> > plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it
> is.
> >
> >
> >
> > Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> > > IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> > project
> > > creation, royale library creation,...)
> > > for me it's ok to list there
> > >
> > > thanks for your revision! :)
> > >
> > > Carlos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >
> > > > Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale,
> so
> > I
> > > > just looked at the existing text.
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > > bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> > > IntelliJ.
> > > > > Unless I missed this development?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Om
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I have found the path now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> > confusing.
> > > I
> > > > > > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > carlosrov...@apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> > that
> > > > you
> > > > > > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > > > > > >> That would be more quick right?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> thanks!
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com
> > >:
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
> > > suggested
> > > > > > >> changes
> > > > > > >> > in about an hour.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > > > cottag...@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > I will take a look
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >> Hi,
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE
> > pages.
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any
> > spelling
> > > > you
> > > > > > want
> > > > > > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > > > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> Thanks!
> > > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > > >> > >> --
> > > > 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Dave Fisher]

Hi -

A few comments;

(1) We need to have a disclaimer of sorts after the logos.
For thanks-to: “These are companies that are known to have helped the project. 
If you know of others please let us know.”
For IDEs: “These IDEs either offer native support or can be made to work for 
Royale development. If you know of any others and wish to share your 
environments then please let us know.”

(2) If an IDE requires special non-out of the box configuration then we ought 
to have a special page to link to where we provide that configuration. I think 
that this would cover the IntelliJ case.

(3) The links should be “nofollow” links as Justin mentioned.

(4) Going forward we need to be carefully to not pay any favorites what so 
ever. If a company demonstrably meets these supports we must include the links.

(5) If any of these third parties wants to link back to us then we should be 
sure to check to make sure that they are meeting Apache Branding requirements.

Regards,
Dave

> On Apr 1, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Carlos Rovira  wrote:
> 
> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people are
> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of them.
> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale project
> creation, royale library creation,...)
> for me it's ok to list there
> 
> thanks for your revision! :)
> 
> Carlos
> 
> 
> 
> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> 
>> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so I
>> just looked at the existing text.
>> 
>> a
>> 
>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with IntelliJ.
>>> Unless I missed this development?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I have found the path now.
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
 wrote:
 
> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> 
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org
 
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that
>> you
>> correct in the page directly freely.
>> That would be more quick right?
>> 
>> thanks!
>> 
>> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>> 
>>> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
>> changes
>>> in about an hour.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
>> cottag...@gmail.com
 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
 I will take a look
 
 
 On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>
 wrote:
 
> Hi,
> 
> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> 
> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling
>> you
 want
> directly in the website?
> 
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> 
> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> 
> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> 
 
 
 
 --
 Andrew Wetmore
 
 http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
 
 
 
 
 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Andrew Wetmore
>>> 
>>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
> 
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
 
 
 --
 Andrew Wetmore
 
 http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Andrew Wetmore
>> 
>> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira



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Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

There are two tiers of IDE support, AIUI: those that just naturally support
Royale, and those that can be tricked into supporting it if you know what
you're doing. Maybe we should list both types, explaining the difference?

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 4:11 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
wrote:

> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
>
> > I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people are
> > using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
> > them.
> >
>
> No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
> Intellij for all my other development.
> More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse our
> users.
>
> I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS plugin.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
> plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it is.
>
>
>
> Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> > IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale
> project
> > creation, royale library creation,...)
> > for me it's ok to list there
> >
> > thanks for your revision! :)
> >
> > Carlos
> >
> >
> >
> > 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >
> > > Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so
> I
> > > just looked at the existing text.
> > >
> > > a
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> > bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> > IntelliJ.
> > > > Unless I missed this development?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Om
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore  >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I have found the path now.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely
> confusing.
> > I
> > > > > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > carlosrov...@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better
> that
> > > you
> > > > > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > > > > >> That would be more quick right?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> thanks!
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore  >:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
> > suggested
> > > > > >> changes
> > > > > >> > in about an hour.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > > cottag...@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > I will take a look
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >> Hi,
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE
> pages.
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any
> spelling
> > > you
> > > > > want
> > > > > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> Thanks!
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >> --
> > > > > >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >> > >>
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > --
> > > > > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > --
> > > > > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> --
> > > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Carlos Rovira
> > 

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018, 10:42 AM Carlos Rovira  wrote:

> I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people are
> using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of
> them.
>

No, Intellij has never worked for me with Royale.  Although I do use
Intellij for all my other development.
More than showing our gratitude, I think adding this would just confuse our
users.

I am doing all my SDK and app work using VS Code and the NextGenAS plugin.

Thanks,
Om

P.S.  I am considering building support for Royale in Intellij via a
plugin.  I will test the waters when I get a chance and see how hard it is.



Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
> IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale project
> creation, royale library creation,...)
> for me it's ok to list there
>
> thanks for your revision! :)
>
> Carlos
>
>
>
> 2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>
> > Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so I
> > just looked at the existing text.
> >
> > a
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala <
> bigosma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with
> IntelliJ.
> > > Unless I missed this development?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Om
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I have found the path now.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing.
> I
> > > > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > carlosrov...@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that
> > you
> > > > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > > > >> That would be more quick right?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> thanks!
> > > > >>
> > > > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > > > >>
> > > > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with
> suggested
> > > > >> changes
> > > > >> > in about an hour.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> > cottag...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > I will take a look
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > > >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >> Hi,
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling
> > you
> > > > want
> > > > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> Thanks!
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >> --
> > > > >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >> > >>
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > --
> > > > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > --
> > > > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >> >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> --
> > > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Piotr Zarzycki]

That's bothers me also. Anyone from the PMCs and committers didn't spent
any time to fill out instruction page with Intellij [1]. I assume that
anyone is not using actively it for Application development.

However I'm personally using Intellij for coding in SDK. - This makes me +1
to have JetBrains in the Thanks To, but does that mean we should put that
IDE in the IDE page ?
 For application development I'm using Moonshine.

I think intellij with some tricks is able to work for Application
developer, but do we want to support IDE which is actually not supporting
fully Royale ?

Carlos,

One more thought about Thanks To. Although Prominic or BowlerHatLLC do not
provide full time employees to work on Royal - still that two companies
provide indirect services to that project, through the IDEs.

I would say even more - If there is a situation where for some reason
something is wrong in the SDK which makes breaks in the IDE - I'm
responsible for fixing that as part of my work on Moonshine project.
Believe me I have fixed several issues in Royale thanks to that
opportunity!

[1] https://github.com/apache/royale-asjs/wiki/IntelliJ-IDEA

Thanks,
Piotr


2018-04-01 19:26 GMT+02:00 OmPrakash Muppirala :

> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with IntelliJ.
> Unless I missed this development?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
> wrote:
>
> > I have found the path now.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
> > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > >> That would be more quick right?
> > >>
> > >> thanks!
> > >>
> > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >>
> > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
> > >> changes
> > >> > in about an hour.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore  >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I will take a look
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Hi,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you
> > want
> > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thanks!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >
> > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> >
> > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>



-- 

Piotr Zarzycki

Patreon: *https://www.patreon.com/piotrzarzycki
*

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

I think IntelliJ doesn't have prime Royale support, but AFAICT people are
using this IDE with some concrete configurations. I think Om is one of them.
Don't know if that could be a problem, but if people are working with
IntelliJ in some way, although there's no real support (i.e Royale project
creation, royale library creation,...)
for me it's ok to list there

thanks for your revision! :)

Carlos



2018-04-01 19:36 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :

> Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so I
> just looked at the existing text.
>
> a
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
> wrote:
>
> > I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with IntelliJ.
> > Unless I missed this development?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Om
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I have found the path now.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> > > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> carlosrov...@apache.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that
> you
> > > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > > >> That would be more quick right?
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks!
> > > >>
> > > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > > >>
> > > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
> > > >> changes
> > > >> > in about an hour.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore <
> cottag...@gmail.com
> > >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > I will take a look
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > > >> > > wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >> Hi,
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling
> you
> > > want
> > > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> Thanks!
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >> --
> > > >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >> > >>
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > --
> > > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > --
> > > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >> >
> > > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Carlos Rovira
> > > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Andrew Wetmore
> > > >
> > > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>



-- 
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

Done with my edits. I am not sure whether IntelliJ supports Royale, so I
just looked at the existing text.

a

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:26 PM, OmPrakash Muppirala 
wrote:

> I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with IntelliJ.
> Unless I missed this development?
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore 
> wrote:
>
> > I have found the path now.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> > > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
> > >> correct in the page directly freely.
> > >> That would be more quick right?
> > >>
> > >> thanks!
> > >>
> > >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> > >>
> > >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
> > >> changes
> > >> > in about an hour.
> > >> >
> > >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore  >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > I will take a look
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> > >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> > >> > > wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >> Hi,
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you
> > want
> > >> > >> directly in the website?
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> Thanks!
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >> --
> > >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
> > >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> > >
> > >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Andrew Wetmore
> > >> >
> > >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>



-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[OmPrakash Muppirala]

I see IntelliJ in the list. I thought Royale does not work with IntelliJ.
Unless I missed this development?

Thanks,
Om

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Wetmore  wrote:

> I have found the path now.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> wrote:
>
> > I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> > cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
> >> correct in the page directly freely.
> >> That would be more quick right?
> >>
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
> >>
> >> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
> >> changes
> >> > in about an hour.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I will take a look
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
> >> carlosrov...@apache.org>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> Hi,
> >> > >>
> >> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you
> want
> >> > >> directly in the website?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> >> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> >> > >>
> >> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> >> > >>
> >> > >> Thanks!
> >> > >>
> >> > >> --
> >> > >> Carlos Rovira
> >> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > --
> >> > > Andrew Wetmore
> >> > >
> >> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Andrew Wetmore
> >> >
> >> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

I have found the path now.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:11 PM, Andrew Wetmore  wrote:

> I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I
> cannot find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
>> correct in the page directly freely.
>> That would be more quick right?
>>
>> thanks!
>>
>> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>>
>> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested
>> changes
>> > in about an hour.
>> >
>> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I will take a look
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira <
>> carlosrov...@apache.org>
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi,
>> > >>
>> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
>> > >>
>> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you want
>> > >> directly in the website?
>> > >>
>> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
>> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
>> > >>
>> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
>> > >>
>> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks!
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Carlos Rovira
>> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Andrew Wetmore
>> > >
>> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Andrew Wetmore
>> >
>> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

I would do that, but I find the WP structure completely confusing. I cannot
find my way to the snippets that make up the pages.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Carlos Rovira 
wrote:

> Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
> correct in the page directly freely.
> That would be more quick right?
>
> thanks!
>
> 2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :
>
> > There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested changes
> > in about an hour.
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I will take a look
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira  >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> > >>
> > >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you want
> > >> directly in the website?
> > >>
> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> > >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> > >>
> > >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> > >>
> > >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Carlos Rovira
> > >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andrew Wetmore
> > >
> > > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Carlos Rovira]

Hi Andrew, since you have website access, I think it's better that you
correct in the page directly freely.
That would be more quick right?

thanks!

2018-04-01 18:55 GMT+02:00 Andrew Wetmore :

> There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested changes
> in about an hour.
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore 
> wrote:
>
> > I will take a look
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
> >>
> >> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you want
> >> directly in the website?
> >>
> >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> >> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
> >>
> >> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
> >>
> >> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carlos Rovira
> >> http://about.me/carlosrovira
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andrew Wetmore
> >
> > http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>



-- 
Carlos Rovira
http://about.me/carlosrovira

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

There are a few small issues. I will send an email with suggested changes
in about an hour.

On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:52 PM, Andrew Wetmore  wrote:

> I will take a look
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
>>
>> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you want
>> directly in the website?
>>
>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
>> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
>>
>> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
>>
>> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Carlos Rovira
>> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Andrew Wetmore
>
> http://cottage14.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/

Re: New Thanks-to and IDEs pages for review

[Andrew Wetmore]

I will take a look


On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 1:43 PM, Carlos Rovira 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> just put some work to finaly create thanks-to and IDE pages.
>
> @Andrew, please can you take a look and correct any spelling you want
> directly in the website?
>
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/ides/
> https://royale.codeoscopic.com/thanks-to/
>
> if you miss some company or IDE let me know to include it
>
> I'll be uploading to producing in the next 24-48h
>
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Carlos Rovira
> http://about.me/carlosrovira
>



-- 
Andrew Wetmore

http://cottage14.blogspot.com/