Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
I spoke too soon. I've got a new page that I'm adding that will detail out a few things. -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 1:38 AM Subject: Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos] Ok, here's my latest... http://people.apache.org/~jmitchell/site/ Any objections to me publishing this? (I had to manually tweak the gen'd html to get the embedded flash to look right) -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos] On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? +1 on wanting both. How long do we run the contest for? Two weeks? We need to have time for creative juices to flow. One potential "endgame" scenario for this ... I've got a session about Shale at O'Reilly Open Source on Wednesday, July 26 ... it would be fun to be able to show the winner there. Binding votes are committers or PMC? Committers (although at the moment that makes no difference). The only time a PMC vote should be binding is on a release. I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. We definitely want to hear community votes ... my idea was that we counted community votes only on the user list (i.e. you have to subscribe to say anything :-). Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? IIRC, Geronimo did their logo thing with wiki submissions. That seems to be the easiest way for people to actually get involved. Is there anything else I missed? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 (c) Craig - Original Message - Wrom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http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven >> >> LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. >> >>> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the >>> sync). >>> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >>> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >>> >>> What do you think? >> >> It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) >> Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it >> somewhere. >> >> We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, >> though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage >> caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and >> changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not >> work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the >> old version and never know it changed. >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Wendy >> > >
Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
Ok, here's my latest... http://people.apache.org/~jmitchell/site/ Any objections to me publishing this? (I had to manually tweak the gen'd html to get the embedded flash to look right) -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:40 AM Subject: Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos] On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? +1 on wanting both. How long do we run the contest for? Two weeks? We need to have time for creative juices to flow. One potential "endgame" scenario for this ... I've got a session about Shale at O'Reilly Open Source on Wednesday, July 26 ... it would be fun to be able to show the winner there. Binding votes are committers or PMC? Committers (although at the moment that makes no difference). The only time a PMC vote should be binding is on a release. I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. We definitely want to hear community votes ... my idea was that we counted community votes only on the user list (i.e. you have to subscribe to say anything :-). Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? IIRC, Geronimo did their logo thing with wiki submissions. That seems to be the easiest way for people to actually get involved. Is there anything else I missed? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 (c) Craig - Original Message - Wrom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http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven >> >> LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. >> >>> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the >>> sync). >>> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >>> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >>> >>> What do you think? >> >> It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) >> Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it >> somewhere. >> >> We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, >> though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage >> caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and >> changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not >> work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the >> old version and never know it changed. >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Wendy >> > >
Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? +1 on wanting both. How long do we run the contest for? Two weeks? We need to have time for creative juices to flow. One potential "endgame" scenario for this ... I've got a session about Shale at O'Reilly Open Source on Wednesday, July 26 ... it would be fun to be able to show the winner there. Binding votes are committers or PMC? Committers (although at the moment that makes no difference). The only time a PMC vote should be binding is on a release. I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. We definitely want to hear community votes ... my idea was that we counted community votes only on the user list (i.e. you have to subscribe to say anything :-). Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? IIRC, Geronimo did their logo thing with wiki submissions. That seems to be the easiest way for people to actually get involved. Is there anything else I missed? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 (c) Craig - Original Message - Wrom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http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven >> >> LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. >> >>> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the >>> sync). >>> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >>> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >>> >>> What do you think? >> >> It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) >> Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it >> somewhere. >> >> We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, >> though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage >> caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and >> changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not >> work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the >> old version and never know it changed. >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Wendy >> > >
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
And here's the latest one... http://edgetechservices.net/images/shale-logo-contest.jpg -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Craig McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:33 AM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that's funny, when creating that img, I actually paused for a few seconds and debated naming it to what you said...wow! Oh well, guess I wasn't rubbing both brain cells together fast enough...good catch, I'll fix right now. I *love* the one that's showing now :-). Be good fodder for the contest. Craig -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos > On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on >> windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven > > LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. > >> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync). >> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >> >> What do you think? > > It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) > Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it > somewhere. > > We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, > though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage > caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and > changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not > work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the > old version and never know it changed. > > Thanks! > -- > Wendy >
Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
- Original Message - From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos] On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. cool logo ;) Oh, sorry, the newest one hasn't hit yet. You'll like the newest one even better (I hope ;) I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? mmm good question. I don't know. but not to large I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? +1 How long do we run the contest for? Binding votes are committers or PMC? I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. 6 weeks ? community sounds good. we did the same for the Trinidad name! ;) Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? Jira. Is there anything else I missed? a logo ;-) thanks James, Matthias No, thank you. -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that's funny, when creating that img, I actually paused for a few seconds and debated naming it to what you said...wow! Oh well, guess I wasn't rubbing both brain cells together fast enough...good catch, I'll fix right now. I *love* the one that's showing now :-). Be good fodder for the contest. Craig -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos > On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on >> windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. >> >> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven > > LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. > >> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync). >> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >> >> What do you think? > > It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) > Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it > somewhere. > > We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, > though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage > caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and > changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not > work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the > old version and never know it changed. > > Thanks! > -- > Wendy >
Re: Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. cool logo ;) I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? mmm good question. I don't know. but not to large I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? +1 How long do we run the contest for? Binding votes are committers or PMC? I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. 6 weeks ? community sounds good. we did the same for the Trinidad name! ;) Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? Jira. Is there anything else I missed? a logo ;-) thanks James, Matthias -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 (c) - Original Message - From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos > Now that's funny, when creating that img, I actually paused for a few > seconds and debated naming it to what you said...wow! Oh well, guess I > wasn't rubbing both brain cells together fast enough...good catch, I'll > fix right now. > > > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > > - Original Message - > From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:06 PM > Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos > > >> On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on >>> windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. >>> >>> http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven >> >> LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. >> >>> Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the >>> sync). >>> We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up >>> with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. >>> >>> What do you think? >> >> It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) >> Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it >> somewhere. >> >> We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, >> though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage >> caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and >> changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not >> work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the >> old version and never know it changed. >> >> Thanks! >> -- >> Wendy >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf futher stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Shale logo contest [was Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos]
Ok, I just updated the logo again, I hope this one looks a little better. I'm adding a section to the main (index.xml) page under 'Foundation'. It is titled "What's with the logo?". I then briefly explain the contest and how/what to do to submit entries and I'd like to list the prizes and dates when we will announce the winner. I wanted to get some feedback first. I'm sure every TLP is different, but what is a good size for the logo? I also assume we want 2 versions. A "logo" and a "powered by" image. Is this correct? How long do we run the contest for? Binding votes are committers or PMC? I think we should let the community vote and tally up those results and announce them as well as what the binding votes chose. Where do people submit entries? Jira? The wiki? Or simply email them in and one of us can upload them? Is there anything else I missed? -- James Mitchell 678.910.8017 (c) - Original Message - From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:33 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos Now that's funny, when creating that img, I actually paused for a few seconds and debated naming it to what you said...wow! Oh well, guess I wasn't rubbing both brain cells together fast enough...good catch, I'll fix right now. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync). We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. What do you think? It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it somewhere. We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the old version and never know it changed. Thanks! -- Wendy
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
Now that's funny, when creating that img, I actually paused for a few seconds and debated naming it to what you said...wow! Oh well, guess I wasn't rubbing both brain cells together fast enough...good catch, I'll fix right now. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 10:06 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync). We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. What do you think? It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it somewhere. We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the old version and never know it changed. Thanks! -- Wendy
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that. http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven LOL... I have that exact same note on the internal wiki at work. Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync). We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something. What do you think? It finally showed up, it was blank for a while and I was confused. :) Works for me, my only requirement is that it say "Shale" in it somewhere. We should use something like shale-logo-temp.jpg for the filename, though. I'm pretty sure the Apache sites are set up to encourage caching at every possible level. Using shale-logo.jpg now, and changing the contents of the image once we choose a final logo may not work as desired. Some population out there may continue to see the old version and never know it changed. Thanks! -- Wendy
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
Ok, it works, although I had to fix a PITA work-around for cygwin on
windows. I've added my notes to the wiki about that.
http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceMaven
Also, notice that shale-logo.jpg is in place (or will be after the sync).
We can change it to be whatever. Like what Sean mentioned, a "What's up
with the logo?" with a link to the contest details or something.
What do you think?
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
- Original Message -
From: "James Mitchell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
I'll see if I can do it.
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James Mitchell
Software Engineer
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
- Original Message -
From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
The mail-lists page is back to having only has the Apache Announcements
list:
* http://shale.apache.org/mail-lists.html
If someone can re-publish the site to fix it, that would be great.
('mvn site site:deploy') Make sure you have an updated shale-master
pom in your local repo. I'll do it later tonight if not.
Thanks,
--
Wendy
Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299
When you apply for participation, you can do so as an individual or as a corporation. Beyond that, I'm not sure. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Greg Reddin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299 Do you have to be registered with the JCP as a corporation rather than an individual to get that status? On Jul 7, 2006, at 12:34 PM, James Mitchell wrote: I sent in a request to be on the expert group under "corporation", since I am incorporated. I would prefer to be a co-rep for Apache, but if that's not possible, then that's cool. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299 Thanks for heads up, Craig. so James, what should we do? :) I don't want any *wars* b/c a JSP ;) -Matt On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/6/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can there be more than one Apache rep? I'd like to participate too > (even if just as an Individual). It's up to the spec lead (Gavin King in this particular case) ... but I don't expect he would object to multiple individual participants. As to how the official Apache rep gets selected, best bet would be to post your willingness to do this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (ASF members only to subscribe) to let other JCP-interested folks now of your desire. If there's more than one interested party, we can let Geir help us figure out the process for selecting one. -- > James Mitchell Craig On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > On 7/6/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hey folks, > >> > >> Is anybody (Craig ;)) going to join this JSR [1]? > >> > >> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299 > > > > > > Yes, I'm going to be the Sun rep on this EG. It would be > > reasonable for > > someone to be the Apache rep as well. > > > > -- > >> Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > Craig > > > > futher stuff: > >> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf > >> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com > >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf futher stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
I'll see if I can do it.
--
James Mitchell
Software Engineer
EdgeTech, Inc.
678.910.8017
- Original Message -
From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
The mail-lists page is back to having only has the Apache Announcements
list:
* http://shale.apache.org/mail-lists.html
If someone can re-publish the site to fix it, that would be great.
('mvn site site:deploy') Make sure you have an updated shale-master
pom in your local repo. I'll do it later tonight if not.
Thanks,
--
Wendy
Get the word out
Hey guys, Someone should probably announce the mailing lists to the Struts community. Matthias already redirected some Shale questions on the MyFaces user list to the Shale user list. After I read that, I checked my Struts mail folders and couldn't find any announcement about the lists. I wondered how people who were on the Struts lists would know that there's a more appropriate place for them to post Shale questions. Who knows, you might even find some volunteers with the project set up tasks you're already discussing (such as copy/pasting those wiki pages, if that was the only way to move them over). ;) Hubert
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
The mail-lists page is back to having only has the Apache Announcements list:
* http://shale.apache.org/mail-lists.html
If someone can re-publish the site to fix it, that would be great.
('mvn site site:deploy') Make sure you have an updated shale-master
pom in your local repo. I'll do it later tonight if not.
Thanks,
--
Wendy
Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299
Can you be an individual too. But than you can't *share* the knowledge. As an representatn of a company / org. the name of the org/comp. is listed, not yours. Yours will show up as you are an individual. -Matt On 7/7/06, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Do you have to be registered with the JCP as a corporation rather than an individual to get that status? On Jul 7, 2006, at 12:34 PM, James Mitchell wrote: > I sent in a request to be on the expert group under "corporation", > since I am incorporated. > > I would prefer to be a co-rep for Apache, but if that's not > possible, then that's cool. > > > > -- > James Mitchell > Software Engineer > EdgeTech, Inc. > 678.910.8017 > > - Original Message - From: "Matthias Wessendorf" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299 > > >> Thanks for heads up, Craig. >> >> so James, what should we do? :) >> I don't want any *wars* b/c a JSP ;) >> >> -Matt >> >> On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On 7/6/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >>> > Can there be more than one Apache rep? I'd like to participate >>> too >>> > (even if just as an Individual). >>> >>> >>> It's up to the spec lead (Gavin King in this particular case) ... >>> but I >>> don't expect he would object to multiple individual participants. >>> >>> As to how the official Apache rep gets selected, best bet would >>> be to post >>> your willingness to do this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list >>> (ASF members >>> only to subscribe) to let other JCP-interested folks now of your >>> desire. If >>> there's more than one interested party, we can let Geir help us >>> figure out >>> the process for selecting one. >>> >>> -- >>> > James Mitchell >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: >>> > >>> > > On 7/6/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> Hey folks, >>> > >> >>> > >> Is anybody (Craig ;)) going to join this JSR [1]? >>> > >> >>> > >> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299 >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Yes, I'm going to be the Sun rep on this EG. It would be >>> > > reasonable for >>> > > someone to be the Apache rep as well. >>> > > >>> > > -- >>> > >> Matthias Wessendorf >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > Craig >>> > > >>> > > futher stuff: >>> > >> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf >>> > >> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com >>> > >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Matthias Wessendorf >> >> futher stuff: >> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf >> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com > > -- Matthias Wessendorf futher stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299
Do you have to be registered with the JCP as a corporation rather than an individual to get that status? On Jul 7, 2006, at 12:34 PM, James Mitchell wrote: I sent in a request to be on the expert group under "corporation", since I am incorporated. I would prefer to be a co-rep for Apache, but if that's not possible, then that's cool. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299 Thanks for heads up, Craig. so James, what should we do? :) I don't want any *wars* b/c a JSP ;) -Matt On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/6/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can there be more than one Apache rep? I'd like to participate too > (even if just as an Individual). It's up to the spec lead (Gavin King in this particular case) ... but I don't expect he would object to multiple individual participants. As to how the official Apache rep gets selected, best bet would be to post your willingness to do this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (ASF members only to subscribe) to let other JCP-interested folks now of your desire. If there's more than one interested party, we can let Geir help us figure out the process for selecting one. -- > James Mitchell Craig On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > On 7/6/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hey folks, > >> > >> Is anybody (Craig ;)) going to join this JSR [1]? > >> > >> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299 > > > > > > Yes, I'm going to be the Sun rep on this EG. It would be > > reasonable for > > someone to be the Apache rep as well. > > > > -- > >> Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > Craig > > > > futher stuff: > >> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf > >> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com > >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf futher stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: SHALE-123
I agree that there are a couple of major dialog bugs that need to be addressed before rolling this out. I'm happy to try and help once we come up with a plan of attack. Sean On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/5/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hey, > > anyone looked at SHALE-123 ? > Back at my old company I found a guy like that very useful. > This PhaseListener is not intended to go to the META-INF/faces-config.xml > > It should be up to a user/developer. This concept (and a bunch of others around the dialog feature) are definitely on the list of things I want to look at over the next couple weeks. Dialog is the key functionality area that, IMHO, keeps Shale from being ready for a GA release ... but there are a number of overlapping requirements, and I want to make sure we take a shot at meeting all of them, not just some of them. WDT? > > -Matthias Craig -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > futher stuff: > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com >
Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299
I sent in a request to be on the expert group under "corporation", since I am incorporated. I would prefer to be a co-rep for Apache, but if that's not possible, then that's cool. -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [OT] WebBeans JSR 299 Thanks for heads up, Craig. so James, what should we do? :) I don't want any *wars* b/c a JSP ;) -Matt On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/6/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can there be more than one Apache rep? I'd like to participate too > (even if just as an Individual). It's up to the spec lead (Gavin King in this particular case) ... but I don't expect he would object to multiple individual participants. As to how the official Apache rep gets selected, best bet would be to post your willingness to do this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (ASF members only to subscribe) to let other JCP-interested folks now of your desire. If there's more than one interested party, we can let Geir help us figure out the process for selecting one. -- > James Mitchell Craig On Jul 6, 2006, at 1:23 PM, Craig McClanahan wrote: > > > On 7/6/06, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> Hey folks, > >> > >> Is anybody (Craig ;)) going to join this JSR [1]? > >> > >> [1] http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=299 > > > > > > Yes, I'm going to be the Sun rep on this EG. It would be > > reasonable for > > someone to be the Apache rep as well. > > > > -- > >> Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > Craig > > > > futher stuff: > >> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf > >> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com > >> > > -- Matthias Wessendorf futher stuff: blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
On 7/7/06, James Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That sounds good. Want me to do it? I've already removed the Struts logo and switched to plain text: http://shale.apache.org The catch is that the isn't right aligned; I have a question out on [EMAIL PROTECTED] and will open an issue. If we use 'Logo TBD' I'd at least like it to say Shale Logo TBD. I think the project name needs to be in the banner, otherwise some pages have no clue that they 'belong' to Shale, like the generated mailing lists page: http://shale.apache.org/shale-clay/mail-lists.html -- Wendy
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
That sounds good. Want me to do it? -- James Mitchell Software Engineer EdgeTech, Inc. 678.910.8017 - Original Message - From: "Sean Schofield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 5:59 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos How about a "Logo TBD"? And a "What's with the logo?" news item at the top of the site announcing the contest? Sean On 7/6/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the logo, I'd like to go with James's idea of having a contest for > user > submitted logos (both for the site and for a "Powered by Shale" image > that > apps could use). The prerequisite is you have to subscribe to the user > list > to submit :-). Right, but are we going to leave the _Struts_ logo in place until that happens? We need something in the interim, whether it's plain text or a tempoarary logo. Oops... http://shale.apache.org is coming up blank. index.html is zero bytes. What happened? -- Wendy
Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos
That was me testing the site before the site was published. I did $touch index.html and even though the perms were set to group write and my umask is set properly, the Maven site deploy for that file was probably blocked. I see now that it is a non-issue, sorry if that caused any heart ache. -- James Mitchell - Original Message - From: "Wendy Smoak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Nightly builds redirected and a couple of website todos On 7/6/06, Craig McClanahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For the logo, I'd like to go with James's idea of having a contest for user submitted logos (both for the site and for a "Powered by Shale" image that apps could use). The prerequisite is you have to subscribe to the user list to submit :-). Right, but are we going to leave the _Struts_ logo in place until that happens? We need something in the interim, whether it's plain text or a tempoarary logo. Oops... http://shale.apache.org is coming up blank. index.html is zero bytes. What happened? -- Wendy
Re: svn commit: r419798 - in /shale/trunk/shale-test: pom.xml src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/ src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/AbstractJsfTestCase.java
On 7/7/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/7/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That reminds me that we have a wiki to start building ... I was wondering last night if it will be possible to move files from one wiki to another, or if we'll have to copy-paste-delete. Does anyone know? Might be better to leave the pages on the Struts wiki for anyone thats linked to them. You can redirect pages - whether that works between different wikis I don't know: http://moinmoin.wikiwikiweb.de/HelpOnProcessingInstructions#head-90fe7c2176c1dfa6f2de86245c9d7dde868dc64c Niall Wendy
Re: svn commit: r419798 - in /shale/trunk/shale-test: pom.xml src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/ src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/AbstractJsfTestCase.java
On 7/7/06, Sean Schofield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That reminds me that we have a wiki to start building ... I was wondering last night if it will be possible to move files from one wiki to another, or if we'll have to copy-paste-delete. Does anyone know? -- Wendy
Re: svn commit: r419798 - in /shale/trunk/shale-test: pom.xml src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/ src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/AbstractJsfTestCase.java
That reminds me that we have a wiki to start building ... Sean On 7/7/06, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 7/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Author: matzew > Date: Thu Jul 6 21:29:59 2006 > New Revision: 419798 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=419798&view=rev > Log: > SHALE-210. Adding support for JMock to the shale test framework > > Added: > shale/trunk/shale-test/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/ > shale/trunk/shale-test/src/main/java/org/apache/shale/test/jmock/AbstractJsfTestCase.java Please configure your Subversion client to add svn:eol-style and svn:keywords properties to new files. http://wiki.apache.org/struts/StrutsMaintenanceSvn Thanks, Wendy
