Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On 12/20/07, Greg Reddin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm listening, but having a hard time making time to do the Tiles > thing. My work is starting to slow down a bit. Maybe I can jump in and > upgrade the Tiles support by the end of the week. > That'd be great, thanks in advance! -Rahul > Greg >
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On Dec 19, 2007 4:32 PM, Rahul Akolkar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Looks like the two remaining issues are the snapshot version of the > > shale-master pom, and the Tiles dependency which is on an old > > snapshot. Shale Tiles does not compile against any release of Tiles > > 2. Is anyone planning to work on the Tiles integration? > > > > > This seems to be on the critical path. Anyone? I'm listening, but having a hard time making time to do the Tiles thing. My work is starting to slow down a bit. Maybe I can jump in and upgrade the Tiles support by the end of the week. Greg
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On 12/8/07, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Dec 8, 2007 6:40 PM, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a > > single distribution so that it's easy to release. > > Or not. I didn't realize how many example apps we have! I put them > back in a profile so they're not part of the default build. Use > -Dapps to activate the profile. > > I switched to the latest assembly plugin version (2.2-beta-1) and > attached the framework distribution assembly so it should build during > the normal lifecycle (i.e., when you type 'mvn site install' instead > of having to type 'cd shale-dist; mvn assembly:assembly'.) The > contents need to be verified, though. It might not be picking up the > documentation. > OK, I intend to take a look at the changes over the weekend. > Looks like the two remaining issues are the snapshot version of the > shale-master pom, and the Tiles dependency which is on an old > snapshot. Shale Tiles does not compile against any release of Tiles > 2. Is anyone planning to work on the Tiles integration? > This seems to be on the critical path. Anyone? -Rahul > -- > Wendy >
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On 12/6/07, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hi, > > > > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of > > Shale (or some parts of it), > > into MyFaces. > > > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > > 1.0.5 > > 1.1.0 > > > > I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs > logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but > have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last > week too. > > I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to > merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure > what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan > Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of > development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are > others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. > > For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan to be more > active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should > consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts > success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be > myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. > Glad to know that you're planning to be more active in the future, in the "activity begets activity" vein ( rather than launch into any new text, let me just point to Hen's notes [1] ). Also, I don't think we should be calling out releases as last releases (unless the PMC makes / has made that decision). I was occupied elsewhere in Apache land for a couple of weeks (and will be till the weekend), but I want to help with a release from one of the branches (say, 1_0_X). If this can happen at the year end, I will have more time. -Rahul [1] http://blog.generationjava.com/roller/bayard/entry/activity-begets-activity > > Gary > > > > WDYT? > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > further stuff: > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
RE: [release] Last release of Shale?
+1 -Original Message- From: samju [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 December 2007 23:17 To: dev@shale.apache.org Subject: Re: [release] Last release of Shale? Hello! we are using the shale-**-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar. it will be nice to have a stable release. i believe in Shale ;-) Sam Wendy Smoak-3 wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of >> Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. >> >> But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 >> 1.1.0 >> >> WDYT? > > I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a > single distribution so that it's easy to release. > > I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release > so far, is anyone really using it? > > -- > Wendy > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-release--Last-release-of-Shale--tp14194276p142856 62.html Sent from the Shale - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 08/12/2007 11:59 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.486 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1178 - Release Date: 08/12/2007 11:59 ___ All new Yahoo! Mail "The new Interface is stunning in its simplicity and ease of use." - PC Magazine http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html
RE: [release] Last release of Shale?
+1 -Original Message- From: samju [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 dicembre 2007 00.17 To: dev@shale.apache.org Subject: Re: [release] Last release of Shale? Hello! we are using the shale-**-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar. it will be nice to have a stable release. i believe in Shale ;-) Sam Wendy Smoak-3 wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of >> Shale (or some parts of it), >> into MyFaces. >> >> But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release >> 1.0.5 >> 1.1.0 >> >> WDYT? > > I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a > single distribution so that it's easy to release. > > I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release > so far, is anyone really using it? > > -- > Wendy > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-release--Last-release-of-Shale--tp14194276p142856 62.html Sent from the Shale - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
Hello! we are using the shale-**-1.1.0-SNAPSHOT.jar. it will be nice to have a stable release. i believe in Shale ;-) Sam Wendy Smoak-3 wrote: > > On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of >> Shale (or some parts of it), >> into MyFaces. >> >> But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release >> 1.0.5 >> 1.1.0 >> >> WDYT? > > I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a > single distribution so that it's easy to release. > > I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release > so far, is anyone really using it? > > -- > Wendy > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/-release--Last-release-of-Shale--tp14194276p14285662.html Sent from the Shale - Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
Wendy, 1.1.0-SNAPSHOT contains the testing-framework enhancement I would like to use with MyFaces. Please release this version of Shale. Paul Spencer Wendy Smoak wrote: On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 WDYT? I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a single distribution so that it's easy to release. I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release so far, is anyone really using it?
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On Dec 8, 2007 6:40 PM, Wendy Smoak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a > single distribution so that it's easy to release. Or not. I didn't realize how many example apps we have! I put them back in a profile so they're not part of the default build. Use -Dapps to activate the profile. I switched to the latest assembly plugin version (2.2-beta-1) and attached the framework distribution assembly so it should build during the normal lifecycle (i.e., when you type 'mvn site install' instead of having to type 'cd shale-dist; mvn assembly:assembly'.) The contents need to be verified, though. It might not be picking up the documentation. Looks like the two remaining issues are the snapshot version of the shale-master pom, and the Tiles dependency which is on an old snapshot. Shale Tiles does not compile against any release of Tiles 2. Is anyone planning to work on the Tiles integration? -- Wendy
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
On Dec 6, 2007 8:15 AM, Matthias Wessendorf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of > Shale (or some parts of it), > into MyFaces. > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > 1.0.5 > 1.1.0 > > WDYT? I'm looking at the 1.0.x branch, trying to get everything into a single distribution so that it's easy to release. I'm not sure about releasing the 1.1 trunk. It hasn't had a release so far, is anyone really using it? -- Wendy
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
> From the stand point of finding what you need from a mailing list, a > low traffic mailing list is a good thing. The MyFaces lists are > contains MyFaces for JSF 1.1, MyFaces for JSF 1.2, Tomahawk, Trinidad, > Orchestra, and JSF Commons traffic. Adding Shale and it's sub projects > will just increase the traffic and user frustration. yes; the board warned us, but... looks like MyFaces becomes the next Jakarta :-) > > A wild thought. Why not move JSF Commons, in whole or part, into Shale? > This is a way of strengthen the Shale community. hrm... I don't know > > > > > > >> -M > >> > >> On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: > From: "Matthias Wessendorf" > > Hi, > > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a > move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > 1.0.5 1.1.0 > > >>> I'd like to see another release. I know there are several > >>> outstanding bugs > >> logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months > >> ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul > >> did some work last week too. > >>> I think another release would be important on both branches. If > >>> we decide to > >> merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm > >> not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For > >> example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large > >> portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one > >> example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of > >> other parts of shale. > >>> For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan > >>> to be more > >> active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale > >> should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a > >> secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next > >> question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it > >> just make sense to join communities. > >>> > >>> Gary > >>> > >>> > >>> > WDYT? > > -- Matthias Wessendorf > > further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: > matzew-at-apache-dot-org > >> > >> > >> -- Matthias Wessendorf > >> > >> further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > >> sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: > >> matzew-at-apache-dot-org > > -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
Paul Spencer wrote: Gary VanMatre wrote: There hasn't been allot of activity. Although, I think that other apache projects have periods of less activity. But, I've not seen many request on the mailing lists for features to be implemented and releases to be made. From the stand point of finding what you need from a mailing list, a low traffic mailing list is a good thing. The MyFaces lists are contains MyFaces for JSF 1.1, MyFaces for JSF 1.2, Tomahawk, Trinidad, Orchestra, and JSF Commons traffic. Adding Shale and it's sub projects will just increase the traffic and user frustration. On the first sentence I meant to say: From the stand point of finding what you need from a mailing list, a focused mailing list is a good thing. Paul Spencer
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
Gary VanMatre wrote: From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> myfaces is already pretty large, so if you feel, that Shale should stay a TLP, I have no problems with that. I just came back to this idea, b/c was discussed in the past, nothing happened, and Shale is pretty ... quite, these days. There hasn't been allot of activity. Although, I think that other apache projects have periods of less activity. But, I've not seen many request on the mailing lists for features to be implemented and releases to be made. From the stand point of finding what you need from a mailing list, a low traffic mailing list is a good thing. The MyFaces lists are contains MyFaces for JSF 1.1, MyFaces for JSF 1.2, Tomahawk, Trinidad, Orchestra, and JSF Commons traffic. Adding Shale and it's sub projects will just increase the traffic and user frustration. A wild thought. Why not move JSF Commons, in whole or part, into Shale? This is a way of strengthen the Shale community. -M On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: From: "Matthias Wessendorf" Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week too. I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan to be more active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. Gary WDYT? -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
>From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > myfaces is already pretty large, > so if you feel, that Shale should stay a TLP, I have no problems with that. > > I just came back to this idea, b/c was discussed in the past, nothing > happened, > and Shale is pretty ... quite, these days. > There hasn't been allot of activity. Although, I think that other apache projects have periods of less activity. But, I've not seen many request on the mailing lists for features to be implemented and releases to be made. > -M > > On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre wrote: > > >From: "Matthias Wessendorf" > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of > > > Shale (or some parts of it), > > > into MyFaces. > > > > > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > > > 1.0.5 > > > 1.1.0 > > > > > > > I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs > logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have > not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week > too. > > > > I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide > > to > merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure > what > that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has > shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of > development) > using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have > taken advantage of other parts of shale. > > > > For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan to be more > active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should > consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts > success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be > myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. > > > > > > Gary > > > > > > > > > WDYT? > > > > > > -- > > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > > > further stuff: > > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org > > > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > further stuff: > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
myfaces is already pretty large, so if you feel, that Shale should stay a TLP, I have no problems with that. I just came back to this idea, b/c was discussed in the past, nothing happened, and Shale is pretty ... quite, these days. -M On Dec 6, 2007 5:13 PM, Gary VanMatre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Hi, > > > > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of > > Shale (or some parts of it), > > into MyFaces. > > > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > > 1.0.5 > > 1.1.0 > > > > I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs > logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but > have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last > week too. > > I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to > merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure > what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan > Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of > development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are > others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. > > For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan to be more > active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should > consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts > success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be > myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. > > > Gary > > > > > WDYT? > > > > -- > > Matthias Wessendorf > > > > further stuff: > > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
>From: "Matthias Wessendorf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi, > > as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of > Shale (or some parts of it), > into MyFaces. > > But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release > 1.0.5 > 1.1.0 > I'd like to see another release. I know there are several outstanding bugs logged that need addressed. I hammered down a few several months ago but have not made the time to dig in again. I saw that Rahul did some work last week too. I think another release would be important on both branches. If we decide to merge with myfaces and don't take all of the existing modules, I'm not sure what that will do to people have investments in shale. For example, Ryan Wynn has shared that they have developed a very large portal (man years of development) using Clay. That's just one example and I'm sure there are others that have taken advantage of other parts of shale. For this reason, I'm rethinking the "cafeteria" proposal. I plan to be more active in the future. IMO, Shale is a lost leader now. Maybe Shale should consider pulling in more volunteers. That seems to be a secret to Struts success over the years. That leads to the next question, would they all be myfaces commiter anyway and would it just make sense to join communities. Gary > WDYT? > > -- > Matthias Wessendorf > > further stuff: > blog: http://matthiaswessendorf.wordpress.com/ > sessions: http://www.slideshare.net/mwessendorf > mail: matzew-at-apache-dot-org
Re: [release] Last release of Shale?
As I have posted on this list before, I am in favor of releasing Shale in it's current state before moving any parts of it to MyFaces. Paul Spencer Matthias Wessendorf wrote: Hi, as discussed already (here/[EMAIL PROTECTED]) there will be a move of Shale (or some parts of it), into MyFaces. But, before a thing like that will happen, we should release 1.0.5 1.1.0 WDYT?
