Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-28 Thread Ryan Baxter
Rene see some of the questions I had in the review

https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 3:45 AM, René Peinl
rene.pe...@hof-university.de wrote:
 If you can be more specific on what exactly is not well documented enough to 
 be easy to set up, we will surely enhance the documentation in these areas. 
 However, we have already improved it since the last conversation about this 
 issue a few months ago.

 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Ryan Baxter [mailto:rbaxte...@gmail.com]
 Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 16:17
 An: dev@shindig.apache.org
 Betreff: Re: Review of Neo4j patch

 I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I was 
 still having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and running.  I 
 can try to find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to be so slow on this.

 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers ssiev...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi René,

 I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret
 the slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've
 done.  It is very much appreciated, I promise you.

 Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I
 think we need to just get this committed so that work can continue in
 smaller, more manageable chunks.

 For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming
 long weekend here in the states.

 Thanks,
 -Stanton



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
 rene.pe...@hof-university.dewrote:

 Dear Shindig Community,

 I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database
 backend for Apache Shindig to your attention.

 As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a
 year ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in
 Shindig due to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911

 A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would
 be still interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues
 and I received positive feedback from you.

 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out
 the licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements
 regarding multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things
 like that, that make it ready for larger installations with multiple db 
 servers.

 https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

 Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues
 with documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but
 during the last three months there were no visible efforts from the
 Shindig-side to really bring this patch into the main code. We are
 still committed to support and further enhance it, so if there are 
 reasonable issues, please let us know.



 I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
 procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled
 and I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine
 how any open source project can work that simply ignores
 contributions worth several person months of work.

 Please give this patch a fair chance.

 Regards

 René







 Prof. Dr. René Peinl

 Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

 Hof University

 Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

 95028 Hof

 Germany



 Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

 mailto:  mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de
 rene.pe...@hof-university.de











AW: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-26 Thread René Peinl
If you can be more specific on what exactly is not well documented enough to be 
easy to set up, we will surely enhance the documentation in these areas. 
However, we have already improved it since the last conversation about this 
issue a few months ago.

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Ryan Baxter [mailto:rbaxte...@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Mai 2014 16:17
An: dev@shindig.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Review of Neo4j patch

I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I was still 
having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and running.  I can try to 
find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to be so slow on this.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers ssiev...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi René,

 I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret 
 the slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've 
 done.  It is very much appreciated, I promise you.

 Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I 
 think we need to just get this committed so that work can continue in 
 smaller, more manageable chunks.

 For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming 
 long weekend here in the states.

 Thanks,
 -Stanton



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
 rene.pe...@hof-university.dewrote:

 Dear Shindig Community,

 I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database 
 backend for Apache Shindig to your attention.

 As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a 
 year ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in 
 Shindig due to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911

 A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would 
 be still interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues 
 and I received positive feedback from you.

 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out 
 the licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements 
 regarding multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things 
 like that, that make it ready for larger installations with multiple db 
 servers.

 https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

 Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues 
 with documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but 
 during the last three months there were no visible efforts from the 
 Shindig-side to really bring this patch into the main code. We are 
 still committed to support and further enhance it, so if there are 
 reasonable issues, please let us know.



 I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the 
 procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled 
 and I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine 
 how any open source project can work that simply ignores 
 contributions worth several person months of work.

 Please give this patch a fair chance.

 Regards

 René







 Prof. Dr. René Peinl

 Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

 Hof University

 Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

 95028 Hof

 Germany



 Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

 mailto:  mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de
 rene.pe...@hof-university.de











Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-23 Thread Ryan Baxter
I echo Stanton's comments.  The last time I tried to use the patch I
was still having trouble figuring out how to get everything up and
running.  I can try to find some time to take a look again.  Sorry to
be so slow on this.

On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Stanton Sievers ssiev...@apache.org wrote:
 Hi René,

 I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret the
 slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've done.  It
 is very much appreciated, I promise you.

 Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I think we
 need to just get this committed so that work can continue in smaller, more
 manageable chunks.

 For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming long
 weekend here in the states.

 Thanks,
 -Stanton



 On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl 
 rene.pe...@hof-university.dewrote:

 Dear Shindig Community,

 I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
 Apache Shindig to your attention.

 As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
 ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
 to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911

 A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be
 still
 interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
 positive feedback from you.

 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
 licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
 multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
 make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers.

 https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

 Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
 documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
 three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
 bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
 further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know.



 I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
 procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
 I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
 open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth
 several
 person months of work.

 Please give this patch a fair chance.

 Regards

 René







 Prof. Dr. René Peinl

 Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

 Hof University

 Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

 95028 Hof

 Germany



 Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

 mailto:  mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de
 rene.pe...@hof-university.de










Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-21 Thread René Peinl
Dear Shindig Community,

I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
Apache Shindig to your attention.

As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
to licensing issues that we were not aware of before. 

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911 

A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be still
interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
positive feedback from you.

4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers. 

https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know. 

 

I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth several
person months of work. 

Please give this patch a fair chance. 

Regards

René 

 

 

 

Prof. Dr. René Peinl

Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

Hof University

Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

95028 Hof

Germany

 

Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

mailto:  mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de rene.pe...@hof-university.de

 

 

 



Re: Review of Neo4j patch

2014-05-21 Thread Stanton Sievers
Hi René,

I'm sorry that this has been your experience.  Please don't interpret the
slow-moving process as a lack of appreciation for the work you've done.  It
is very much appreciated, I promise you.

Given the state of the patch and the conversation on the review, I think we
need to just get this committed so that work can continue in smaller, more
manageable chunks.

For my own part, I'll aim to play around with things over the upcoming long
weekend here in the states.

Thanks,
-Stanton



On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:28 AM, René Peinl rene.pe...@hof-university.dewrote:

 Dear Shindig Community,

 I’d like to bring our contribution regarding a proper database backend for
 Apache Shindig to your attention.

 As some of you might know, we already posted an initial patch over a year
 ago. It turned out, that it was not feasible to include this in Shindig due
 to licensing issues that we were not aware of before.

 https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SHINDIG-1911

 A few months later we asked via the mailing list, whether you would be
 still
 interested in getting a patch which circumvents these issues and I received
 positive feedback from you.

 4 months ago, we posted a new version of the patch which sorted out the
 licensing issues and had some other significant enhancements regarding
 multi-threading, multiple concurrent connections and things like that, that
 make it ready for larger installations with multiple db servers.

 https://reviews.apache.org/r/9773/

 Initially, Ryan Baxter gave us some good hints regarding minor issues with
 documentation and installation. We’ve sorted them out, but during the last
 three months there were no visible efforts from the Shindig-side to really
 bring this patch into the main code. We are still committed to support and
 further enhance it, so if there are reasonable issues, please let us know.



 I’d like to communicate my frustration and disappointment about the
 procedure. I don’t know the reasons for the way this issue is handled and
 I’m sure you all have important things to do, but I can’t imagine how any
 open source project can work that simply ignores contributions worth
 several
 person months of work.

 Please give this patch a fair chance.

 Regards

 René







 Prof. Dr. René Peinl

 Teaching area: architecture of Web applications

 Hof University

 Alfons-Goppel-Platz 1

 95028 Hof

 Germany



 Tel:  +49 9281 409-4820

 mailto:  mailto:rene.pe...@hof-university.de
 rene.pe...@hof-university.de