Re: [DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-15 Thread Hyukjin Kwon
Yeah, we will probably drop Python 2 entirely after 3.0.0. Python 2 is
already deprecated.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, 18:25 Driesprong, Fokko,  wrote:

> Sorry for the late reply, was a bit busy lately, but I still would like to
> share my thoughts on this.
>
> For Apache Airflow we're dropping support for Python 2 in the next major
> release. We're now supporting Python 3.5+. Mostly because:
>
>- Easier to maintain and test, and less if/else constructions for the
>different Python versions. Also, not having to test against Python 2.x
>reduces the build matrix.
>- Python 3 has support for typing. From Python 3.5 you can include
>provisional type hints. An excellent presentation by Guido himself:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wDvzy6Hgxg. From Python 3.5 it is
>still provisional, but it is a really good idea. From Airflow we've noticed
>that using mypy is catching bugs early:
>   - This will put less stress on the (boring part of the) reviewing
>   process since a lot of this stuff is checked automatically.
>   - For new developers, it is easier to read the code because of the
>   annotations.
>   - Can be used as an input for generated documentation (or check if
>   it still in sync with the docstrings)
>   - Easier to extend the code since you know what kind of types you
>   can expect, and your IDE will also pick up the hinting.
>- Python 2.x will be EOL end this year
>
> I have a strong preference to migrate everything to Python 3.
>
> Cheers, Fokko
>
>
> Op wo 7 aug. 2019 om 12:14 schreef Weichen Xu :
>
>> All right we could support both Python 2 and Python 3 for spark 3.0.
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:10 PM Hyukjin Kwon  wrote:
>>
>>> We didn't drop Python 2 yet although it's deprecated. So I think It
>>> should support both Python 2 and Python 3 at the current status.
>>>
>>> 2019년 8월 7일 (수) 오후 6:54, Weichen Xu 님이 작성:
>>>
 Hi all,

 I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
 already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
 under dev/ , we have two choice:
 1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
 2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3

 I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.

 Regards,
 Weichen

>>>


Re: [DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-15 Thread Hyukjin Kwon
I mean python 2 _will be_ deprecated in Spark 3.

On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, 18:37 Hyukjin Kwon,  wrote:

> Yeah, we will probably drop Python 2 entirely after 3.0.0. Python 2 is
> already deprecated.
>
> On Thu, 15 Aug 2019, 18:25 Driesprong, Fokko, 
> wrote:
>
>> Sorry for the late reply, was a bit busy lately, but I still would like
>> to share my thoughts on this.
>>
>> For Apache Airflow we're dropping support for Python 2 in the next major
>> release. We're now supporting Python 3.5+. Mostly because:
>>
>>- Easier to maintain and test, and less if/else constructions for the
>>different Python versions. Also, not having to test against Python 2.x
>>reduces the build matrix.
>>- Python 3 has support for typing. From Python 3.5 you can include
>>provisional type hints. An excellent presentation by Guido himself:
>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wDvzy6Hgxg. From Python 3.5 it is
>>still provisional, but it is a really good idea. From Airflow we've 
>> noticed
>>that using mypy is catching bugs early:
>>   - This will put less stress on the (boring part of the) reviewing
>>   process since a lot of this stuff is checked automatically.
>>   - For new developers, it is easier to read the code because of the
>>   annotations.
>>   - Can be used as an input for generated documentation (or check if
>>   it still in sync with the docstrings)
>>   - Easier to extend the code since you know what kind of types you
>>   can expect, and your IDE will also pick up the hinting.
>>- Python 2.x will be EOL end this year
>>
>> I have a strong preference to migrate everything to Python 3.
>>
>> Cheers, Fokko
>>
>>
>> Op wo 7 aug. 2019 om 12:14 schreef Weichen Xu > >:
>>
>>> All right we could support both Python 2 and Python 3 for spark 3.0.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:10 PM Hyukjin Kwon  wrote:
>>>
 We didn't drop Python 2 yet although it's deprecated. So I think It
 should support both Python 2 and Python 3 at the current status.

 2019년 8월 7일 (수) 오후 6:54, Weichen Xu 님이 작성:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
> already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
> under dev/ , we have two choice:
> 1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
> 2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3
>
> I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.
>
> Regards,
> Weichen
>



Re: [DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-15 Thread Driesprong, Fokko
Sorry for the late reply, was a bit busy lately, but I still would like to
share my thoughts on this.

For Apache Airflow we're dropping support for Python 2 in the next major
release. We're now supporting Python 3.5+. Mostly because:

   - Easier to maintain and test, and less if/else constructions for the
   different Python versions. Also, not having to test against Python 2.x
   reduces the build matrix.
   - Python 3 has support for typing. From Python 3.5 you can include
   provisional type hints. An excellent presentation by Guido himself:
   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wDvzy6Hgxg. From Python 3.5 it is still
   provisional, but it is a really good idea. From Airflow we've noticed that
   using mypy is catching bugs early:
  - This will put less stress on the (boring part of the) reviewing
  process since a lot of this stuff is checked automatically.
  - For new developers, it is easier to read the code because of the
  annotations.
  - Can be used as an input for generated documentation (or check if it
  still in sync with the docstrings)
  - Easier to extend the code since you know what kind of types you can
  expect, and your IDE will also pick up the hinting.
   - Python 2.x will be EOL end this year

I have a strong preference to migrate everything to Python 3.

Cheers, Fokko


Op wo 7 aug. 2019 om 12:14 schreef Weichen Xu :

> All right we could support both Python 2 and Python 3 for spark 3.0.
>
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:10 PM Hyukjin Kwon  wrote:
>
>> We didn't drop Python 2 yet although it's deprecated. So I think It
>> should support both Python 2 and Python 3 at the current status.
>>
>> 2019년 8월 7일 (수) 오후 6:54, Weichen Xu 님이 작성:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
>>> already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
>>> under dev/ , we have two choice:
>>> 1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
>>> 2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3
>>>
>>> I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Weichen
>>>
>>


Re: [DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-07 Thread Weichen Xu
All right we could support both Python 2 and Python 3 for spark 3.0.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 6:10 PM Hyukjin Kwon  wrote:

> We didn't drop Python 2 yet although it's deprecated. So I think It should
> support both Python 2 and Python 3 at the current status.
>
> 2019년 8월 7일 (수) 오후 6:54, Weichen Xu 님이 작성:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
>> already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
>> under dev/ , we have two choice:
>> 1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
>> 2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3
>>
>> I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Weichen
>>
>


Re: [DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-07 Thread Hyukjin Kwon
We didn't drop Python 2 yet although it's deprecated. So I think It should
support both Python 2 and Python 3 at the current status.

2019년 8월 7일 (수) 오후 6:54, Weichen Xu 님이 작성:

> Hi all,
>
> I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
> already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
> under dev/ , we have two choice:
> 1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
> 2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3
>
> I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.
>
> Regards,
> Weichen
>


[DISCUSS] Migrate development scripts under dev/ from Python2 to Python 3

2019-08-07 Thread Weichen Xu
Hi all,

I would like to discuss the compatibility for dev scripts. Because we
already decided to deprecate python2 in spark 3.0, for development scripts
under dev/ , we have two choice:
1) Migration from Python 2 to Python 3
2) Support both Python 2 and Python 3

I tend to option (2) which is more friendly to maintenance.

Regards,
Weichen