Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
On 2/5/2012 10:36 AM, Wojciech Meyer wrote: Hi all, -1 This is partially because stdcxx is still considered to be a derivate implementation of RogueWave in ARM toolchain, so upgrading at some point would have had a smaller impact on our customers than porting the toolchain into another library, apart from that I think this means that we will have yet smaller choice of C++ libraries avaiable - even if they are a bit outdated. Therefore -1. You trimmed the vote thread... can we presume you are willing to be active in the project? PS: I still have some pending patches to port it to ARM Compiler, if somebody would be happy to review it/commit it I would be happy to follow up - Martin was looking, but we both stuck at some point with having not enough time to do it. Now, as how the things stands I think they should be pushed. It's necessary to push these at the bug tracker or the dev@ list. One problem is that if you push it to an individual (e.g. Martin) then there is no chance the community can help take up the slack when that individual gets busy.
RE: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
Hi William, On 2/5/2012 10:36 AM, Wojciech Meyer wrote: This is partially because stdcxx is still considered to be a derivate implementation of RogueWave in ARM toolchain, so upgrading at some point would have had a smaller impact on our customers than porting the toolchain into another library, apart from that I think this means that we will have yet smaller choice of C++ libraries avaiable - even if they are a bit outdated. Therefore -1. You trimmed the vote thread... can we presume you are willing to be active in the project? Sorry, my understanding was that the header tells everything, if there was an online poll please count this vote as -1 formally as: *not* putting the stdcxx Apache STL project to Apache Attic. Of course I would like to contribute if that's possible, I do have a formal agreement of ARM, at least for the ARM related patches - please see below. PS: I still have some pending patches to port it to ARM Compiler, if somebody would be happy to review it/commit it I would be happy to follow up - Martin was looking, but we both stuck at some point with having not enough time to do it. Now, as how the things stands I think they should be pushed. It's necessary to push these at the bug tracker or the dev@ list. One problem is that if you push it to an individual (e.g. Martin) then there is no chance the community can help take up the slack when that individual gets busy. I understand that. Some of them were put into Jira: STDCXX-1051 at least this. I can do some digging and find out if I tracked the other ones, otherwise I will raise them in Jira. Wojciech -- IMPORTANT NOTICE: The contents of this email and any attachments are confidential and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately and do not disclose the contents to any other person, use it for any purpose, or store or copy the information in any medium. Thank you.
RE: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
While often have little or no time for extracurricular activities, I'm willing to start participating on a limited basis. So -1. Travis -Original Message- From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:04 AM To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'? Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [X] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
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I vote to keep the project active. Steve Clamage Oracle Corp From: William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net Date: Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:03 Subject: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'? To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [X] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
RE: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
I'm voting to keeping this project active. Scott -Original Message- From: William A. Rowe Jr. [mailto:wr...@rowe-clan.net] Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:04 AM To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org Subject: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'? Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [x] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
On 02.02.2012 19:03, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [X] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting. I have not too much time for active developing the stdcxx, but I can review user patches, test them on a set of Microsoft compilers and commit into svn. In the other words, I can provide support of the stdcxx to the users if any exist :). Also I plan to smoothly move the stdcxx in the C++ 0x direction. So my vote is: -1 Farid.
[VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [ ] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
+1 While it appears that there is some traffic on the wiki page (documenting compiler support for various STDCXX 0X features), no effort is being undertaken to update the library to support these features. On 02/02/2012 12:03 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [ ] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:03, William A. Rowe Jr. wr...@rowe-clan.net wrote: Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [X ] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting. I maintain/enahnce stdcxx on Solaris 10 and 11 and Linux at Oracle (with the Sun Studio compilers). I also test with gcc on the same platforms (although we do not publish stdcxx for gcc). stdcxx on Solaris is a long-term commitment on Oracle's part. It will be available and maintained in Solaris for a long time to come. It would be very sad for such a nice implementation of C++2003 to be retired and left to gather dust. --Stefan -- Stefan Teleman KDE e.V. stefan.tele...@gmail.com
Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
Sadly, +1. This is an outstanding piece of software, but it needs active maintenance. On 02 Feb 2012, at 7:03 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [ ] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
Re: [VOTE] Retirement of stdcxx to the 'Attic'?
While I am not completely familiar with the process, I took a couple minutes to look at the website for the Attic project ( http://attic.apache.org/ ), and I thought I'd summarize the implications of this move as I understand them. A move to the attic means the following (major) changes to the STDCXX project: * The STDCXX PMC will be dissolved. * The following resources will be made read-only: ** The subversion repository ( http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/stdcxx ) ** The JIRA project ( http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/STDCXX ) ** The wiki ( http://wiki.apache.org/stdcxx/ ) * The dev@, commits@ and private@ mailing lists will be closed Once the project has been moved to the attic, it will only be moved out if one of the following events happen: * The community is restarted in the Apache Incubator. * The PMC is recreated. * The project is forked. I get the impression that there are at least a couple informal forks of the codebase out there, but I have neither the time nor inclination to follow these forks and commit the changes back to subversion. The Attic website says they will link to any forks which have been created, but I don't know what criteria must be met for this to happen. --Andrew Black On 02/02/2012 12:03 PM, William A. Rowe Jr. wrote: Fans and contributors, it appears that the stdcxx project is entirely dormant. The ASF has launched a new 'Attic' project over the past two years, to neatly retire dormant works until and unless a community comes along who wishes to revive the effort. As a simple formality your votes please; [ ] +1 - stdcxx committee should be retired, with code sent to the Attic [ ] -1 - No, stdcxx should not fold, I am still contributing, and [would serve|am serving] on its project management committee The results of this vote will be taken up by the ASF Board of Directors at their 15 Feb meeting.
