RE: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-28 Thread Eric Lemings
 
In light of that info,

+1

 -Original Message-
 From: Tim Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 11:37 AM
 To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org
 Subject: RE: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0
 
 Our experience with our customer base indicates that MSVC 7.0 was
 abandoned quickly in favor of 7.1.  
 
 So my vote is also +1 in favor of dropping 7.0.
 
 -- Tim
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Martin Sebor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sebor
 Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:39 AM
 To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org
 Subject: Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0
 
 Farid Zaripov wrote:
For now we are supporting four versions of the MSVC starting from
 7.0.
  The MSVC 7.0 doesn't supports the modern C++ features and I 
 propose to
 
  discontinue supporting of this compiler in stdcxx 4.3 version.
  
Everyone is encouraged to vote, including non-committers.
  
This vote will close on Tuesday, 01/29 at 6:00 AM 
 US/Mountain time.
  Follow the link for the countdown: http://tinyurl.com/23clxd
 
 +1 in favor of dropping MSVC 7.0 in 4.3.
 
 Martin
 
  
  Farid.
  
 
 


Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-27 Thread Liviu Nicoara

It was about time.

+1

Tim Adams wrote:

Our experience with our customer base indicates that MSVC 7.0 was
abandoned quickly in favor of 7.1.  


So my vote is also +1 in favor of dropping 7.0.

-- Tim

-Original Message-
From: Martin Sebor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sebor
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:39 AM
To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

Farid Zaripov wrote:

  For now we are supporting four versions of the MSVC starting from

7.0.

The MSVC 7.0 doesn't supports the modern C++ features and I propose to



discontinue supporting of this compiler in stdcxx 4.3 version.

  Everyone is encouraged to vote, including non-committers.

  This vote will close on Tuesday, 01/29 at 6:00 AM US/Mountain time.
Follow the link for the countdown: http://tinyurl.com/23clxd


+1 in favor of dropping MSVC 7.0 in 4.3.

Martin


Farid.







RE: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-26 Thread Tim Adams
Our experience with our customer base indicates that MSVC 7.0 was
abandoned quickly in favor of 7.1.  

So my vote is also +1 in favor of dropping 7.0.

-- Tim

-Original Message-
From: Martin Sebor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Sebor
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 10:39 AM
To: dev@stdcxx.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

Farid Zaripov wrote:
   For now we are supporting four versions of the MSVC starting from
7.0.
 The MSVC 7.0 doesn't supports the modern C++ features and I propose to

 discontinue supporting of this compiler in stdcxx 4.3 version.
 
   Everyone is encouraged to vote, including non-committers.
 
   This vote will close on Tuesday, 01/29 at 6:00 AM US/Mountain time.
 Follow the link for the countdown: http://tinyurl.com/23clxd

+1 in favor of dropping MSVC 7.0 in 4.3.

Martin

 
 Farid.
 



Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

Martin Sebor wrote:

Farid Zaripov wrote:

  For now we are supporting four versions of the MSVC starting from 7.0.
The MSVC 7.0 doesn't supports the modern C++ features and I propose
to discontinue supporting of this compiler in stdcxx 4.3 version.
  Everyone is encouraged to vote, including non-committers.

  This vote will close on Tuesday, 01/29 at 6:00 AM US/Mountain time.
Follow the link for the countdown: http://tinyurl.com/23clxd


+1 in favor of dropping MSVC 7.0 in 4.3.


That seems like a good jumping-off folks, with a 4.2.x maintenance
release still on the way.  +1

It's awfully hard to write a solid library implementation on top of
half a compiler.

Bill


Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-26 Thread Martin Sebor

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

Tim Adams wrote:

Our experience with our customer base indicates that MSVC 7.0 was
abandoned quickly in favor of 7.1.  


FWIW - that same generation, VS.NET's C++.NET implementation model
was completely abandoned and restructured in VS.2005 (a massively
better syntax, IMHO).  Seems quite a few users have parked on 2003
just because of the nasty implications of moving to 2005 (at least
for the C compiler).  But 2002 / VC 7.0?  I agree it appears to be
abandonware.

A bigger reference point is that VS 2003, 2005 and 2008 compilers
can be found for free, which makes the call for VC 6 and 7 much
less compelling.  When compiler tools were quite expensive for
Joe Hacker, there was a real incentive to help Joe out and keep
supporting his old compiler.


Good point!



With MS awakening to the significance of free compilers on every
real operating system, they've blinked, and made that headache
dissolve for us.


Now if they would only awaken to the importance of standards like
C99 and POSIX they would make an even bigger headache go away ;-)

Martin



Bill







Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-26 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.

Martin Sebor wrote:

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:

With MS awakening to the significance of free compilers on every
real operating system, they've blinked, and made that headache
dissolve for us.


Now if they would only awaken to the importance of standards like
C99 and POSIX they would make an even bigger headache go away ;-)


:-)  Speaking of which, advocates, is anyone planning on dropping into
the Redmond compatibility labs meet up at the end of February?  I know
I'm planning to be there.

Bill


Re: [VOTE] discontinue supporting of the MSVC 7.0

2008-01-26 Thread Travis Vitek



Farid Zaripov-2 wrote:
 
   For now we are supporting four versions of the MSVC starting from 7.0.
 The MSVC 7.0 doesn't supports the modern C++ features and I propose
 to discontinue supporting of this compiler in stdcxx 4.3 version. 
 
   Everyone is encouraged to vote, including non-committers.
 
   This vote will close on Tuesday, 01/29 at 6:00 AM US/Mountain time.
 Follow the link for the countdown: http://tinyurl.com/23clxd
 
 Farid.
 

+1 to remove VC7.0 support for the 4.3 release.

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