Re: [DISCUSS] Call for PMC Members and Contributors

2023-07-15 Thread Aaron Niskode-Dossett
Hi everyone, I can confirm that voting has begun.  In terms of timeline,
the vote must stay open for one week and then this is a minimum waiting
period of a few days after we forward results to the board to have new PMC
members added.  So please expect another update toward the last week of
July.

Thanks and regards, Aaron

On Mon, Jun 19, 2023 at 2:07 AM Richard Zowalla  wrote:

> Don't want to come across as an annoying user, but have we made any
> progress in this area yet? Everyone who has expressed interest
> (usually) doesn't have read access to private@, so no one knows what
> the current status is regarding the continuation of the project by
> expanding the committer / pmc circle. CC'ing private@, so we can
> hopefully get an update.
>
> I am asking because I read about the intention to cut a storm 2.5.0
> release and I am wondering, if we get the necessary votes in a timely
> manner.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
> Am Montag, dem 12.06.2023 um 12:06 +0200 schrieb Alexandre
> Vermeerbergen:
> > +1
> >
> > Le lun. 12 juin 2023 à 11:57, Richard Zowalla  a
> > écrit :
> > >
> > > Some weeks passed, any updates?
> > >
> > > Gruß
> > > Richard
> > >
> > > Am Donnerstag, dem 11.05.2023 um 19:16 -0400 schrieb P. Taylor
> > > Goetz:
> > > > Thanks for the reminder Richard,
> > > >
> > > > In response, I’ve bumped the PMC-private discussion around adding
> > > > new
> > > > members interested in contributing.
> > > >
> > > > - Taylor
> > > >
> > > > > On May 11, 2023, at 8:39 AM, Richard Zowalla 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello,
> > > > >
> > > > > I know we are all busy with our day jobs, but is there any
> > > > > news?
> > > > >
> > > > > We had some activity after a move to the attic was proposed. In
> > > > > the
> > > > > process, a few people volunteered to help with the project.
> > > > >
> > > > > A few weeks later, IMHO we are back to where we were before the
> > > > > proposal. Mails are going nowhere and I've heard of a few
> > > > > people
> > > > > planning to just fork Storm to get an updated version into
> > > > > production.
> > > > >
> > > > > If we want to prevent that and Storm should really be put into
> > > > > maintenance mode, then we should urgently take care of
> > > > > expanding
> > > > > the PMC/Committers circle, so that we are able to put out
> > > > > timely
> > > > > releases again and the work regarding maintenance is
> > > > > distributed on
> > > > > more than just 2 shoulders.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't take it as a rant, it's just my opinion as someone who
> > > > > runs a
> > > > > Storm Cluster in production and would love to help the project
> > > > > to
> > > > > sustain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Gruß
> > > > > Richard
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2023/05/02 12:58:00 Richard Zowalla wrote:
> > > > > > Any updates? :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Think Storm would benefit from a new release soon...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Mittwoch, dem 22.02.2023 um 18:02 -0500 schrieb P. Taylor
> > > > > > Goetz:
> > > > > > > Quick update:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The ASF Board voted to accept both our report and the
> > > > > > > resolution to
> > > > > > > change PMC Chair. Board feedback on our report was
> > > > > > > positive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The next step is to expand the the PMC/Committers group.
> > > > > > > Official
> > > > > > > votes will necessarily be private, but I see no reason
> > > > > > > nominations
> > > > > > > can’t be public.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So lets open a thread to talk about adding new contributors
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > PMC. Feel free to:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Volunteer to support the project as a PMC
> > > > > > > Member/Committer..
> > > > > > > 2. Nominate someone become PMC/Committer
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have a few candidates in mind, and will follow up
> > > > > > > accordingly.
> > > > > > > Votes for new members will be private, but successful votes
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > members will be announced on the public lists.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One important way to contribute is to volunteer as a
> > > > > > > release
> > > > > > > manager
> > > > > > > for any given release, even if we release infrequently
> > > > > > > (e.g.
> > > > > > > only in
> > > > > > > response to a serious bug or security issue. I don’t have
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > bandwidth to act in that role, though I will commit to
> > > > > > > support
> > > > > > > voting
> > > > > > > on releases, etc. Ideally we would want at least two folks
> > > > > > > ready to
> > > > > > > step into that role, but we can get by with one if
> > > > > > > necessary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks again to everyone who’s expressed interest in
> > > > > > > contributing to
> > > > > > > the project.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Taylor
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > >
>
>


Re: [DISCUSSION] Apache Storm and moving to the Attic

2023-01-31 Thread Aaron Niskode-Dossett
Thank you to those who responded. Given that the low number of responses I
am going to start a vote on moving to the attic tomorrow.

One other note: A vote to move to the attic would not mean the end of
Storm, the project can be forked by anyone who wants to continue the work
(just as it can be forked today), it would just be outside of the ASF.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2023 at 3:12 AM Richard Zowalla  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I also experienced, that dev@ activity is quite low. I did provide some
> PRs and asked questions a few months ago and didn't get any feedback,
> although the PRs got merged in the end. I think, that we need some sort
> of community rebuilding / revival, if we want to maintain Storm in a
> sustainable way (like it is done for TomEE or OpenNLP).
>
> Nevertheless, as I am also a committer on StormCrawler, which relies on
> Storm (obviously) _and_ is used in our research work, I am also happy
> to jump in as a volunteer, if some ppl are needed.
>
> Gruß
> Richard
>
>
> Am Mittwoch, dem 25.01.2023 um 22:00 + schrieb Bipin Prasad:
> > I am volunteering to take on the role of PMC chairFor Storm. Not
> > quite sure about the process.
> > Thanks—Bipin Prasad
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, January 25, 2023, 4:50 PM, Aaron Niskode-Dossett <
> > doss...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Storm developer community,
> >
> > In the past year or so this project has slowed down and the Project
> > Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active members.  The PMC
> > chair
> > resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since volunteered to
> > assume
> > those duties.  I myself am an inactive PMC member.
> >
> > This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving this project to
> > the
> > Attic [1].  I would view this as the natural culmination of a very
> > successful Apache project and not as a mark of failure.  There are
> > many,
> > many successful and influential projects in the attic.
> >
> > The alternative to moving to the attic would be to reconstitute the
> > PMC
> > with *new members* of the development community willing to take on
> > the
> > responsibilities of the project and reporting to the Apache Software
> > Foundation board.
> >
> > So, please respond to this thread if you are interested in that role.
> > Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic is
> > appropriate.  A
> > vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in the future.
> >
> > Thanks you for your time,
> > Aaron
> >
> > [1] https://attic.apache.org/
> >
> >
> >
>
>


[DISCUSSION] Apache Storm and moving to the Attic

2023-01-25 Thread Aaron Niskode-Dossett
Hello Storm developer community,

In the past year or so this project has slowed down and the Project
Management Committee [PMC] has almost no active members.  The PMC chair
resigned in 2022 with due notice and noone has since volunteered to assume
those duties.  I myself am an inactive PMC member.

This suggests to me that it's time to consider moving this project to the
Attic [1].  I would view this as the natural culmination of a very
successful Apache project and not as a mark of failure.  There are many,
many successful and influential projects in the attic.

The alternative to moving to the attic would be to reconstitute the PMC
with *new members* of the development community willing to take on the
responsibilities of the project and reporting to the Apache Software
Foundation board.

So, please respond to this thread if you are interested in that role.
Please also respond if you believe moving to the attic is appropriate.  A
vote on moving to the attic may be held on this list in the future.

Thanks you for your time,
Aaron

[1] https://attic.apache.org/