DO NOT REPLY [Bug 30292] - Replacement of LookupDispatchAction

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 34750] New: - Provide better support for dialogs; avoid POSTDATA situations

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   Summary: Provide better support for dialogs; avoid POSTDATA
situations
   Product: Struts
   Version: Unknown
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: P2
 Component: Controller
AssignedTo: dev@struts.apache.org
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Comparing to other frameworks, Struts does not contain enough ready-to-use UI
components. Most developers use standard Action or at best DispatchAction
classes. Many applications respond with result page immediately to POST request,
generating dreaded Do you want to resend POSTDATA? dialog and double submit
sitiation.

Proposed DialogAction allows to create clean user interface with following 
features:
* Input/output separation -- data is inputted using only POST request method,
page is rendered using only GET request method.
* Automatic reloading of the dialog page if error detected
* Using redirection between POST and GET, which eliminates POSTDATA problem and
allows to browse easily back and forward
* Semi-automatic message handling: programmer has to stick messages into session
in the handler method, and RequestProcessor will remove them automatically
* Less coding and much improved user experience overall
* DialogAction, based on DispatchAction, brings Struts closer to rival
frameworks with event-driven architecture, still keeping best features of front
controller paradigm.

See javadoc to this class for usage example.

This action requires from a developer to use several strict rules, which may be
considered too restrictive, and the whole use case may be considered too
limited. But in reality dialog use case comprises at least half of all action
class uses. I am sure this class (or another version of the same idea) will be
used a lot. Before rejecting this enhancement, please take into account that
Ruby on Rails has this kind of request/response processing as standard. Spring
MVC uses it too, as well as JSF. This is simply less error-prone and more
user-friendly.

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 33355] - computeURLWithCharEncoding doesn't encodes the created by the response.encudeURL call

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-05-05 10:06 ---
Thank you for the reponse- I forget to check the Servlet standard about the 
sessionid usage.
And our customer requires fully HTML 4.01 strict compatible result pages.


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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 34751] New: - Deprecate input property

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   Summary: Deprecate input property
   Product: Struts
   Version: Unknown
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: other
Status: NEW
  Severity: enhancement
  Priority: P4
 Component: Controller
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Input property is cumbersome: it is called input, whereas it better should be
called error. This serves as a source of confusion for Struts newbies, who
might think that input is a page which is displayed before action receives
control. Also, this makes clean and linear chain of request - action - forward
a little fuzzy. 

Another reason is that by default input property does not support redirection.
Redirection can be turned on, but not all developers know about this feature.
Also, in this case it is turned on globally for the whole application, and all
input properties would have refer to corresponding forward properties. Why
not just to remove input altogether?

Input property can be easily simulated with regular forward property. If one
forward property should handle automatic error validation, it can simply have
predefined name, like forward name=ERROR ... / 

Each action can have a bunch of errors, and there might be need for a bunch of
error locations, so having only one input sometimes is not enough anyway.

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Re: Struts Chain 1.2.7 Version

2005-05-05 Thread Joe Germuska
These most recent changes are pretty small, and wouldn't simply patch 
into the sandbox version of struts-chain.

Your question made me think about the bigger question a bit, which is 
maintaining struts-chain for use out of Struts 1.3 -- but after a 
bit of thought, I feel that there's diminishing returns in that. 
There's not much about Struts 1.3 that's very new *besides* the 
chain, so backporting chain changes so people could use it with the 
ostensibly more stable Struts 1.2.x is really not getting anywhere.

So, i'm considering struts-chain to be an evolutionary dead end.  It 
works, so no reason not to distribute it to people who are still 
using Struts 1.2 if they want to dabble -- but unless more demand is 
evidenced, I'd prefer that we encourage people who really want to try 
using the ComposableRequestProcessor to just use Struts 1.3.

Joe
At 4:15 AM +0100 5/5/05, Niall Pemberton wrote:
Joe,
I just updated the STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH so that struts-chain is included in the
1.2.x source distribution (from sandbox/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/struts-chain) - is
there any merit in including any of your recent Chain changes in 1.2.7?
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=165627view=rev
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=165626view=rev
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=165624view=rev
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Re: Struts Release - contrib missing

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Rasmussen
Just as a point of personal preference, it seems like removing massive
feature sets from a 1.x.x release is a little misleading.  But I don't
use any of those libraries in a production app, so I can't say it
wouldn't really impact me.
Michael

On 5/4/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The last ga Struts release (i.e. version 1.2.4) was done from CVS and the
 contents of the contrib folder were shipped in the source distribution.
 Since then we have moved to SVN and re-organised the repository and the only
 thing now included in the 1.2.x source distribution are the el tags.
 
 Since I haven't used anything from contrib I'm pretty neutral about
 including any of it, but given that some people may have done, do we want to
 include any or all of the things that we previously shipped?
 
 Struts 1.2.4 included the following in contrib (as well as Struts-el)
 
 /artimus
 /scaffold
 /struts-chain
 /struts-faces
 /struts-jericho
 /tag-doc
 /workflow
 
 For el I believe James did something smart in SVN so that when the
 STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH is checked out it includes the el sub-project's
 STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH - we would probably want something similar for any of the
 remainder that we want to include?
 
 I know some people have built stuff around struts-chain - so I think there
 is a case for including that - from the sandbox  STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH -
 anything else?
 
 Niall
 
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Re: Struts Release - contrib missing

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
+1

On 5/4/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 So as it stands now the source distro for 1.2.x will include a contrib
 folder with the following in:
 
 /struts-chain
 /struts-el
 /struts-faces
 
 Niall

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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27239] - bug in html:javascript

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-05-05 16:29 ---
(In reply to comment #13)

 Matt:
 re: documentation, agreed, and thanks for the reminder; I just patched
 doc/userGuide/struts-html.xml with more information.  If you have other
 suggestions for where this might be documented, please let me know.


Would it be possible for the JspException to better elaborate the problem in 
the exception message?  The current message:  javax.servlet.jsp.JspException: 
No form found under 'uploadForm' in locale 'en_US' is not very informative in 
pinpointing the problem.

How about: uploadForm missing form/ entry in validation.xml file?  At a 
minimum, this would greatly help the user when asking questions on the ML for 
assistance.

Thanks,
Glen


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Re: Struts Release - contrib missing

2005-05-05 Thread Niall Pemberton
Michael,

I take your point, but in the (CVS) past all we had was a contrib directory
which we just dumped into the source distro. However now (in SVN) we have
a much more flexible repository and some of the things that were in
contrib are now sub-modules and are on their own path to release. For
example struts-faces, struts-el and struts-flow are now modules el,
faces and flow and struts-chain is now incorporated into the core -
you can download nightly builds of all these here:

http://svn.apache.org/builds/struts/maven/trunk/nightly/

...and at some point they will have their own release and distros. Other
things that were in contrib are currently in the sandbox and they face
the evolutionary test - either they'll survive and get promoted or they will
go the extinction route. At this point in time (before any 1.3.x releases)
I think its a case of making a sensible judgement between compatibility with
previous releases and not worrying too much about what was in large part
sandbox code. For anyone where this is an issue, then all of these things
are still available through the SVN repository.

Niall

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Just as a point of personal preference, it seems like removing massive
feature sets from a 1.x.x release is a little misleading.  But I don't
use any of those libraries in a production app, so I can't say it
wouldn't really impact me.
Michael

On 5/4/05, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 The last ga Struts release (i.e. version 1.2.4) was done from CVS and
the
 contents of the contrib folder were shipped in the source distribution.
 Since then we have moved to SVN and re-organised the repository and the
only
 thing now included in the 1.2.x source distribution are the el tags.

 Since I haven't used anything from contrib I'm pretty neutral about
 including any of it, but given that some people may have done, do we want
to
 include any or all of the things that we previously shipped?

 Struts 1.2.4 included the following in contrib (as well as Struts-el)

 /artimus
 /scaffold
 /struts-chain
 /struts-faces
 /struts-jericho
 /tag-doc
 /workflow



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DO NOT REPLY [Bug 32165] - FacesRequestProcessor bug when using prefix mapped Struts servlet extension mapped Faces servlet

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--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2005-05-05 20:58 ---
(In reply to comment #2)

I am having the same exact issue as Dom Tam. Forwarding from a Struts action to
a Faces view using extension mapping (*.do and *.faces, respectively), renders
the h:form action as edit.do, not edit.faces.

Is there a known workaround for this problem?

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FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-05-05 Thread James Mitchell

Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?




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 Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that 
 supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
 Yes, Confluence uses Textile. 
 
 I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
 and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
 documents, especially technical documents.
 
 When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion, things start to
 get very, very tasty.
 
 If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
 yourself,  just let me know.
 
 -Ted.
 
 On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about 
 this early in the
  year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which 
 has a free
  license for open source projects).  I've not used it but 
 rumor has it that
  the markup language is much more understandable than Moin 
 Moin, letting you
  use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy ''' punctuation marks.
  
  http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix
  
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FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-05-05 Thread James Mitchell

Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?




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 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:11 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that 
 supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
 Yes, Confluence uses Textile. 
 
 I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
 and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
 documents, especially technical documents.
 
 When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion, things start to
 get very, very tasty.
 
 If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
 yourself,  just let me know.
 
 -Ted.
 
 On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about 
 this early in the
  year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which 
 has a free
  license for open source projects).  I've not used it but 
 rumor has it that
  the markup language is much more understandable than Moin 
 Moin, letting you
  use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy ''' punctuation marks.
  
  http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix
  
  Best,
  
  WILL
 
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Re: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, if people what to give Confluence a try for a Struts wiki, we can
set up a space here:

* http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/homepage.action

I still have one-too-many irons in the fire myself right now, and so I
can't volunteer to lead the charge. But if you have the itch,  I'll
create the Space.

Infrastructure is aware we are doing this. (Not thrilled, but not
opposed.) If enough teams were interested, I'd work to get it moved to
ASF hardware, so that it could be an official ASF resource.

-Ted.

On 5/5/05, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?
 
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  -Original Message-
  From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:11 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that
  supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
  Yes, Confluence uses Textile.
 
  I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
  and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
  documents, especially technical documents.
 
  When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion, things start to
  get very, very tasty.
 
  If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
  yourself,  just let me know.
 
  -Ted.
 
  On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about
  this early in the
   year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which
  has a free
   license for open source projects).  I've not used it but
  rumor has it that
   the markup language is much more understandable than Moin
  Moin, letting you
   use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy ''' punctuation marks.
  
   http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix
  
   Best,
  
   WILL
 
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Want to donate (not blood)

2005-05-05 Thread Michael Jouravlev
I am a long time Struts user. While there are still may be some
unclear areas (ones that I not use), I think that I have a pretty good
understanding of action/form workins and of request/response cycle.

I would like to donate some stuff, namely modified
LookupDispatchAction (aka ParameterDispatchAction), DialogAction and
WizardAction. I also want to create several easy-to-plug-in
components, kind of ASP.NET provide for a long time. Struts is pretty
flexible, but is too basic. It should be more feature-rich. How about
creating struts.components package? I also want to create a simple
starter app (no database, web layer only), which exploits some of my
ideas. I want to provide better Model/View connection.

I understand that my goals are quite arrogant, so maybe I can join
Struts Application project and develop my stuff there (in hope that it
sometime would be accepted in the main Struts trunk ;) )

I wanted to establish my own project on java.net, but it seems easier
(and more humble ;) ) to join already established project.

So, will Struts Application project members let me become a member? I
promise to behave ;)

Thanks,
   Michael.

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RE: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-05-05 Thread James Mitchell

Why couldn't we host it in the new zone?  Licensing??




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 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:08 PM
 To: Struts Developers List
 Subject: Re: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that 
 supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
 Yes, if people what to give Confluence a try for a Struts wiki, we can
 set up a space here:
 
 * http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/homepage.action
 
 I still have one-too-many irons in the fire myself right now, and so I
 can't volunteer to lead the charge. But if you have the itch,  I'll
 create the Space.
 
 Infrastructure is aware we are doing this. (Not thrilled, but not
 opposed.) If enough teams were interested, I'd work to get it moved to
 ASF hardware, so that it could be an official ASF resource.
 
 -Ted.
 
 On 5/5/05, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?
  
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   -Original Message-
   From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:11 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that
   supports CVS/SVN for users?
  
   Yes, Confluence uses Textile.
  
   I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
   and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
   documents, especially technical documents.
  
   When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion, 
 things start to
   get very, very tasty.
  
   If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
   yourself,  just let me know.
  
   -Ted.
  
   On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about
   this early in the
year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which
   has a free
license for open source projects).  I've not used it but
   rumor has it that
the markup language is much more understandable than Moin
   Moin, letting you
use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy ''' 
 punctuation marks.
   
http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix
   
Best,
   
WILL
  
   
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2005-05-05 Thread James Mitchell

Why couldn't we host it in the new zone?  Licensing??




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 -Original Message-
 From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:08 PM
 To: Struts Developers List
 Subject: Re: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that 
 supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
 Yes, if people what to give Confluence a try for a Struts wiki, we can
 set up a space here:
 
 * http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/homepage.action
 
 I still have one-too-many irons in the fire myself right now, and so I
 can't volunteer to lead the charge. But if you have the itch,  I'll
 create the Space.
 
 Infrastructure is aware we are doing this. (Not thrilled, but not
 opposed.) If enough teams were interested, I'd work to get it moved to
 ASF hardware, so that it could be an official ASF resource.
 
 -Ted.
 
 On 5/5/05, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?
  
  --
  James Mitchell
  Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
  Consulting / Mentoring / Freelance
  EdgeTech, Inc.
  678.910.8017
  AIM:   jmitchtx
  Yahoo: jmitchtx
  MSN:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:11 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that
   supports CVS/SVN for users?
  
   Yes, Confluence uses Textile.
  
   I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
   and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
   documents, especially technical documents.
  
   When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion, 
 things start to
   get very, very tasty.
  
   If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
   yourself,  just let me know.
  
   -Ted.
  
   On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about
   this early in the
year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which
   has a free
license for open source projects).  I've not used it but
   rumor has it that
the markup language is much more understandable than Moin
   Moin, letting you
use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy ''' 
 punctuation marks.
   
http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix
   
Best,
   
WILL
  
   
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[Struts Wiki] Update of DefinePita by James Mitchell

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svn commit: r168502 - /struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml /struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample /struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml

2005-05-05 Thread niallp
Author: niallp
Date: Thu May  5 19:47:10 2005
New Revision: 168502

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=168502view=rev
Log:
Simlify Cactus test properties

* change build-tests.xml so that jars are copied from ${cactus.home} 
automatically without having to specify individual version numbers/names in the 
properties file.
* Add junit to the automatic download (all Cactus versions need to be run with 
junit 3.8.1 minimum).
* add a new (simplified) sample properties file for using the automatic jar 
download


Modified:
struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml
struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample
struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml

Modified: struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml?rev=168502r1=168501r2=168502view=diff
==
--- struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml (original)
+++ struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build-tests.xml Thu May  5 19:47:10 
2005
@@ -93,6 +93,21 @@
 !-- Output directory for tests --
 property name=out.test.dir value=${build.home}/test/
 
+!-- cactus lib --
+property name=cactus.lib value=${cactus.home}/lib/
+
+!-- Default Cactus Context Scheme --
+property name=cactus.contextScheme value=http /
+
+!-- Default Cactus Context Host --
+property name=cactus.contextHost   value=localhost /
+
+!-- Default Cactus Context Port --
+property name=cactus.contextPort   value=8080 /
+
+!-- Default Cactus Context Application --
+property name=cactus.contextAppvalue=test /
+
 !-- Context test is taking place on --
 property name=cactus.contextURL 
value=${cactus.contextScheme}://${cactus.contextHost}:${cactus.contextPort}/${cactus.contextApp}/
 
@@ -100,7 +115,11 @@
 property name=libdir value=lib /
 
 !-- Cactus Test Runner --
-property name=cactus.servertest.class 
value=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask /
+property name=cactus.servertest.class 
value=org.apache.cactus.integration.ant.RunServerTestsTask /
+
+!-- Cactus jspRedirector.jsp --
+!-- N.B. The one in cactus home works except for cactus 1.3 (because 
session=false) --
+property name=cactus.jspRedirector 
value=${cactus.home}/web/jspRedirector.jsp /

 path id=downloaded.lib.classpath
   fileset dir=${libdir}
@@ -108,6 +127,23 @@
   /fileset
 /path
 
+path id=cactus.ant.classpath
+  fileset dir=${cactus.lib}
+include name=cactus-ant*.jar/
+  /fileset
+/path
+
+
+path id=cactus.lib.classpath
+  fileset dir=${cactus.lib}
+include name=cactus*.jar/
+exclude name=cactus-ant*.jar/
+include name=aspectjrt*.jar/
+include name=httpunit*.jar/
+include name=commons-httpclient*.jar/
+  /fileset
+/path
+
 !-- Compilation Classpath --
 path id=compile.classpath
   pathelement location=${build.home}/library/${app.name}.jar/
@@ -115,17 +151,16 @@
   pathelement location=${commons-beanutils.jar}/
   pathelement location=${commons-digester.jar}/
   pathelement location=${commons-fileupload.jar}/
-  pathelement location=${commons-httpclient.jar}/
   pathelement location=${commons-logging.jar}/
   pathelement location=${commons-validator.jar}/
-  pathelement location=${httpunit.jar}/
-  pathelement location=${aspectjrt.jar}/
   pathelement location=${jakarta-oro.jar}/
-  pathelement location=${cactus.jar}/
   pathelement location=${junit.jar}/
   pathelement location=${servlet.jar}/
   pathelement location=${struts.jar}/
   pathelement location=${antlr.jar}/
+
+  !-- cactus lib jars --
+  path refid=cactus.lib.classpath/
   
!-- this is harmless if not used --
path refid=downloaded.lib.classpath/
@@ -144,7 +179,7 @@
 classname=${cactus.servertest.class}
 
 classpath
-pathelement location=${cactus.ant.jar}/
+path refid=cactus.ant.classpath/
 pathelement path=${java.class.path}/
 /classpath
 /taskdef
@@ -208,12 +243,8 @@
 !-- Copy needed libs in /lib --
 copy file=${build.home}/library/${app.name}.jar
 todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
-copy file=${aspectjrt.jar} todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
-copy file=${httpunit.jar}  todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
 copy file=${junit.jar} todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
 copy file=${jakarta-oro.jar} todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
-copy file=${log4j.jar} todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
-copy file=${cactus.jar}todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
 copy file=${commons-beanutils.jar}
   todir=${out.test.dir}/lib/
 copy file=${commons-digester.jar}
@@ -222,11 

svn commit: r168504 - /struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download

2005-05-05 Thread niallp
Author: niallp
Date: Thu May  5 19:50:13 2005
New Revision: 168504

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=168504view=rev
Log:
Forgot to include new sample properties file when using the automatic jar 
download feature.

Added:
struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download   
(with props)

Added: struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download?rev=168504view=auto
==
--- struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download 
(added)
+++ struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download Thu 
May  5 19:50:13 2005
@@ -0,0 +1,101 @@
+# -
+# build.properties.sample.download
+#
+# This is an example build.properties file, used to customize building Struts
+# for your local environment.  Make any changes you need, and rename this file
+# to build.properties in the same directory that contains the Struts
+# build.xml file.
+#
+# This version automatically downloads all the required jars - EXCEPT for 
cactus
+# and the JDBC jar.
+# Chose your cactus by un-commenting ONE set of cactus properties.
+#
+#
+# Using this version of the sample build.properties file, you need to run the 
+# download-dependencies target as well as the actual target.
+#
+# For example to test:  $ant download-dependencies test.junit
+#   $ant download-dependencies test.tomcat.41
+#   $ant download-dependencies test.tomcat.50
+# For example to build: $ant download-dependencies dist
+#
+# $Id$
+# -
+
+# apache.home - Where precompiled jar files from Apache live.
+apache.home=D:/Java/Programs/Apache
+
+# -
+# JDBC 2.0 jar
+# -
+# The JAR file containing the JDBC 2.0 Optional Package extensions API
+# (javax.sql).  This file will automatically be added to your class path
+# when you compile Struts
+#
+# This file can be obtained from:
+# http://java.sun.com/products/jdbc/download.html
+jdbc20ext.jar=../../../Java/Programs/sun/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar
+
+# ==
+# Choose your Cactus!
+# (un-comment only one set of cacuts properties)
+# ==
+
+# -
+# J2EE 1.2 (Servlet 2.2)
+# -
+# --- Cactus 12-1.3 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-12-1.3
+# cactus.jspRedirector=web/test/jspRedirector.jsp
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 12-1.4 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-12-1.4
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 12-1.4.1 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-12-1.4.1
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 12-1.6.1 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-12-1.6.1
+
+# --- Cactus 12-1.7 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-12-1.7
+
+# -
+# J2EE 1.3 (Servlet 2.3)
+# -
+# --- Cactus 13-1.3 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-13-1.3
+# cactus.jspRedirector=web/test/jspRedirector.jsp
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 13-1.4 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-13-1.4
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 13-1.4.1 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-13-1.4.1
+# cactus.servertest.class=org.apache.cactus.ant.RunServerTestsTask
+
+# --- Cactus 13-1.6.1 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-13-1.6.1
+
+# --- Cactus 13-1.7 ---
+# cactus.home=${apache.home}/jakarta-cactus-13-1.7
+
+# -
+# Servlet engine locations for the tests
+# -
+
+# Note: If you don't want to run the test on a given servlet engine, just
+#   comment it's home property. For example, if you don't want to run the
+#   tests on Tomcat 4.0, comment the tomcat.home.40 property.
+
+#tomcat.home.33 = ${apache.home}/jakarta-tomcat-3.3.1
+#tomcat.home.40 = ${apache.home}/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.6
+tomcat.home.41 = ${apache.home}/jakarta-tomcat-4.1.29
+tomcat.home.50 = ${apache.home}/Tomcat 5.0
+# use value of tomcat.home.41 to set equivalent property for Maven-Cactus 
plug-in
+cactus.home.tomcat4x=${tomcat.home.41}

Propchange: 
struts/core/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.properties.sample.download
--
svn:eol-style = native

Propchange: 

[Struts Wiki] Update of StrutsRelease127 by NiallPemberton

2005-05-05 Thread Apache Wiki
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--
  
  || '''#''' || '''Description''' || '''Completed''' ||
  || 1. || Run Unit Test targets  || (./) ||
- || 2. || Run Cactus Tests (see below) || No ||
+ || 2. || Run Cactus Tests (see below) || (./) ||
  || 3. || Play test bundled applications (TC 5.0.x) || No ||
  
  TODO: A Canoo !WebTest for the applications would be great!
@@ -78, +78 @@

  === Cactus Tests ===
  
  || '''#''' || '''J2SE Version''' || '''Tomcat Version''' ||  '''Status''' ||
- || 1. || J2SE 1.3.1_13 || Tomcat 4.1.30 || Not Done ||
+ || 1. || J2SE 1.3.1_04 || Tomcat 4.1.30 || (./) ||
- || 2. || J2SE 1.4.2_04 || Tomcat 4.1.30 || Not Done ||
+ || 2. || J2SE 1.4.2_07 || Tomcat 4.1.30 || (./) ||
- || 3. || J2SE 1.3.1_13 || Tomcat 5.0.28 || Not Done ||
+ || 3. || J2SE 1.3.1_04 || Tomcat 5.0.28 || (./) *see notes ||
- || 4. || J2SE 1.4.2_04 || Tomcat 5.0.28 || Not Done ||
+ || 4. || J2SE 1.4.2_07 || Tomcat 5.0.28 || (./) *see notes ||
+ 
+ Notes:
+  * (1) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a warning message saying Internal 
error flusing the buffer in release() - 
org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl - however all tests passed 
sucessfully.
+  * (2) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a NotSeriliaizableException saying 
Cannot serialise session attribute testSessionScopePropertyIterateEnumeration 
when Tomcat was closing down - however the tests still passed sucessfully.
  
  == Test Build Checklist (A) ==
  

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[Struts Wiki] Trivial Update of StrutsRelease127 by MartinCooper

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The comment on the change is:
Un-wiki-word class names and fix a typo.

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  || 4. || J2SE 1.4.2_07 || Tomcat 5.0.28 || (./) *see notes ||
  
  Notes:
-  * (1) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a warning message saying Internal 
error flusing the buffer in release() - 
org.apache.jasper.runtime.PageContextImpl - however all tests passed 
sucessfully.
+  * (1) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a warning message saying Internal 
error flushing the buffer in release() - 
org.apache.jasper.runtime.!PageContextImpl - however all tests passed 
sucessfully.
-  * (2) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a NotSeriliaizableException saying 
Cannot serialise session attribute testSessionScopePropertyIterateEnumeration 
when Tomcat was closing down - however the tests still passed sucessfully.
+  * (2) Both Tests for Tomcat 5.0.28 issued a !NotSeriliaizableException 
saying Cannot serialise session attribute 
testSessionScopePropertyIterateEnumeration when Tomcat was closing down - 
however the tests still passed sucessfully.
  
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Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of DefinePita by James Mitchell

2005-05-05 Thread Frank W. Zammetti
You know, I've seen a couple of Wiki updates today and in recent days 
past with regard to defining PITA, and some related things, and it has 
frankly reached a point where someone has to speak up, and I guess it's 
going to be me.

We probably all know the people involved in these posts and know at 
least some of the history behind it all, on both sides.

Am I the only one that thinks this is a pretty immature way for people 
who purport to be professionals to be dealing with one another?  Forget 
for a moment who may or may not have valid points, regardless of that, 
is this the proper use for the Struts Wiki?  It's essentially 
name-calling in the guise of a FAQ entry and comes across, to me at 
least, as petty and childish.

Is this really the image anyone wants to project to the rest of the 
world?  Do we really want to see the Wiki devolve into a convenient 
place for people to banter and bicker back and forth at each other in 
cleverly disguised ways?

I could certainly go remove the pages myself, but I'm not going to do 
that.  It isn't my place.  I would hope that the authors would agree it 
serves no useful purpose and potentially does more harm than good.

Can I get an Amen?!? :)
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Re: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that supports CVS/SVN for users?

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
Oh, right, that zone :)

Sure, we could. Atlassians has already given me a license key for the
ASF to use for something like that.

But, from my conversations with infra@, I'm sure the preference would
be that Confluence were setup as a shared resources for all the
projects, like JIRA. I imagine we would want it in a zone of its own.
:)

-Ted.

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  Subject: Re: FW: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that
  supports CVS/SVN for users?
 
  Yes, if people what to give Confluence a try for a Struts wiki, we can
  set up a space here:
 
  * http://opensource.atlassian.com/confluence/oss/homepage.action
 
  I still have one-too-many irons in the fire myself right now, and so I
  can't volunteer to lead the charge. But if you have the itch,  I'll
  create the Space.
 
  Infrastructure is aware we are doing this. (Not thrilled, but not
  opposed.) If enough teams were interested, I'd work to get it moved to
  ASF hardware, so that it could be an official ASF resource.
 
  -Ted.
 
  On 5/5/05, James Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Could we setup/try Confluence in the zone?
  
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From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 4:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Wikis for Geeks: anyone have a wiki that
supports CVS/SVN for users?
   
Yes, Confluence uses Textile.
   
I've been using Confluence/Textile at work for several months now,
and, IMHO, it's the fastest, best way for geeks-like-me to write
documents, especially technical documents.
   
When you hook up Confluence with JIRA and Subversion,
  things start to
get very, very tasty.
   
If anyone wants to take a Confluence space for spin, and see for
yourself,  just let me know.
   
-Ted.
   
On 5/5/05, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On the Velocity lists, we had a bit of discussion about
this early in the
 year.  Tim Colson made a strong case for Confluence (which
has a free
 license for open source projects).  I've not used it but
rumor has it that
 the markup language is much more understandable than Moin
Moin, letting you
 use basic HTML syntax instead of those crazy '''
  punctuation marks.

 http://confluence.atlassian.com/display/DISC/Comparison+Matrix

 Best,

 WILL
   
   
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Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of DefinePita by DakotaJack

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/5/05, Apache Wiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +  * Focusing on persons rather than on principles.
 +  * Using ad hominem remarks or labels rather than reasoned discussion
 +  * Responding to a thread without reading it first.
 +  * Collecting allies rather than information.

Hmmm, not so much. :)

The ASF is a meritocracy. People earn merit by doing things that
matter to other people. We're a people-place. We're driven by
warm-and-squishy ideas like consensus and agreement.

It's cool to have neat code, but what's really important to us is the
community that creates the code. The code itself, and all the reasoned
logic behind it, is a byproduct.

Great communities create great code, but, paradoxically, great code,
by itself, doesn't build great communities. If we have to choose
between code and community, we'll take community every time.

What these definitions say is that it's not about Being Right, it's
about finding the right path.

The right path, for us, is  dictated by consensus. Each one of us
might feel some other path is better, but the right path is the one
we can all walk together.

So, are we 

* Focusing on persons rather than on principles?

Our primary principle is meritocracy: Or, them that do the work make
the decisions. So, yes, we do focus on people. Without volunteers,
there is no project. People are our only working capital.

Are we in the habit of

* Using ad hominem remarks or labels rather than reasoned discussion?

Yes, Apaches often say zen-like things like Merit never expires and
Thanks for volunteering. Often, these remarks represents discussions
we've already had many, many times.

Might we be 

* Responding to a thread without reading it first?

Not often, but when a thread is going sour, people may sometimes try
to change the subject. Not to hijack the thread, but to rescue it.

Are we

* Collecting allies rather than information?

In a meritocracy, allies matter. Information doesn't do the work. Allies do. 

-Ted.

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Re: Want to donate (not blood)

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
What's your sourceforge id, Michael?

-Ted.

On 5/5/05, Michael Jouravlev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I am a long time Struts user. While there are still may be some
 unclear areas (ones that I not use), I think that I have a pretty good
 understanding of action/form workins and of request/response cycle.
 
 I would like to donate some stuff, namely modified
 LookupDispatchAction (aka ParameterDispatchAction), DialogAction and
 WizardAction. I also want to create several easy-to-plug-in
 components, kind of ASP.NET provide for a long time. Struts is pretty
 flexible, but is too basic. It should be more feature-rich. How about
 creating struts.components package? I also want to create a simple
 starter app (no database, web layer only), which exploits some of my
 ideas. I want to provide better Model/View connection.
 
 I understand that my goals are quite arrogant, so maybe I can join
 Struts Application project and develop my stuff there (in hope that it
 sometime would be accepted in the main Struts trunk ;) )
 
 I wanted to establish my own project on java.net, but it seems easier
 (and more humble ;) ) to join already established project.
 
 So, will Struts Application project members let me become a member? I
 promise to behave ;)
 
 Thanks,
Michael.
 
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Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of DefinePita by James Mitchell

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, these entries would fit better under the Incubator wiki, along
with a few other terms and phrase like Thanks for Volunteering,
Them that does the work make the decisions, Merit never expires,
and Don't be evil.

I'll get on it. 

-Ted.

On 5/6/05, Frank W. Zammetti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You know, I've seen a couple of Wiki updates today and in recent days
 past with regard to defining PITA, and some related things, and it has
 frankly reached a point where someone has to speak up, and I guess it's
 going to be me.
 
 We probably all know the people involved in these posts and know at
 least some of the history behind it all, on both sides.
 
 Am I the only one that thinks this is a pretty immature way for people
 who purport to be professionals to be dealing with one another?  Forget
 for a moment who may or may not have valid points, regardless of that,
 is this the proper use for the Struts Wiki?  It's essentially
 name-calling in the guise of a FAQ entry and comes across, to me at
 least, as petty and childish.
 
 Is this really the image anyone wants to project to the rest of the
 world?  Do we really want to see the Wiki devolve into a convenient
 place for people to banter and bicker back and forth at each other in
 cleverly disguised ways?
 
 I could certainly go remove the pages myself, but I'm not going to do
 that.  It isn't my place.  I would hope that the authors would agree it
 serves no useful purpose and potentially does more harm than good.
 
 Can I get an Amen?!? :)
 
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svn commit: r168525 - /struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml

2005-05-05 Thread niallp
Author: niallp
Date: Thu May  5 22:42:30 2005
New Revision: 168525

URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=168525view=rev
Log:
Include the JSTL tlds in the struts-el distro.

Modified:
struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml

Modified: struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml
URL: 
http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs/struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml?rev=168525r1=168524r2=168525view=diff
==
--- struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml (original)
+++ struts/el/branches/STRUTS_1_2_BRANCH/build.xml Thu May  5 22:42:30 2005
@@ -158,7 +158,6 @@
 
  property name=jstl.jar   value=${libdir}/jstl-1.0.6.jar/
  property name=jstl-standard.jar  value=${libdir}/standard-1.0.6.jar/
- property name=jstl.tld.dir   value=${libdir}/tld/
  property name=servlet.jarvalue=${libdir}/servlet.jar/
 
 
@@ -217,10 +216,25 @@
   copy file=${jdbc20ext.jar}
 tofile=${build.home}/library/jdbc2_0-stdext.jar/
 --
+
+  !-- Extract JSTL tlds --
+  unjar src=${jstl-standard.jar} dest=${build.home}/library
+  patternset
+  include name=**/c*.tld/
+  include name=**/f*.tld/
+  include name=**/sql*.tld/
+  include name=**/x*.tld/
+  /patternset
+  /unjar
+
+  !-- Copy all tlds --
   copy todir=${build.home}/library
-   fileset dir=${jstl.tld.dir} includes=*.tld/
+   fileset dir=${build.home}/library/META-INF includes=*.tld/
fileset dir=${struts.core.home}/dist/lib includes=*.tld/
   /copy
+
+  !-- Remove JSLT META-INF directory --
+  delete dir=${build.home}/library/META-INF/
  /target
 
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Re: [Struts Wiki] Update of DefinePita by James Mitchell

2005-05-05 Thread Ted Husted
On 5/5/05, Apache Wiki [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 +  * Trying to fool others by using multiple alias email accounts.

This one might fall under the heading Don't be evil. :)

* http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.01/google_pr.html

-T.

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