Re: [dev] organizing programs

[Hiltjo Posthuma]

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 11:26:15PM +0200, Viktor Grigorov wrote:

> Pen and paper work best for me when it comes to tasks.

I like it, when you attach it to a balloon you can even sync it to the clouds!

> 
> May 13, 2023, 23:01 by s.je...@gmail.com:
> 
> > Heyhey!
> >
> > Страхиња Радић  wrote:
> >
> >> On 23/05/12 02:11PM, LM wrote:
> >> > I'd be curious to know what tools other people use on the list to
> >> > handle organizational jobs such as time and task scheduling, todo
> >> > lists, habit tracking, displaying/printing calendars, etc.  Any
> >> > recommendations?  If you use more than one application, which programs
> >> > work together or chain well?  Thanks.
> >>
> >> http://codemadness.org/todo-application.html
> >>
> >
> > Just chiming in with that years ago I was trying out taskwarrior as
> > well but after neglecting this system for years I have simply used a
> > ~/TODO.txt file at work.
> >
> > I always order the items in there according to priority and delete the
> > items I have finished using vim. This system has worked very well for
> > me and I haven't seen a need to change it yet. Your mileage may vary!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Silvan
> >
> 
> 

-- 
Kind regards,
Hiltjo

Re: [dev] organizing programs

[Viktor Grigorov]

I use a a a timer zsh script that has a timer/countdown and alarm options, the 
former of which can easily serve as a pomodo technique utility.
There was a todo dash script using dmenu, if you input a new item it gets 
added, otherwise an existed is removed from the file.
Can share if interested.
Pen and paper work best for me when it comes to tasks.

May 13, 2023, 23:01 by s.je...@gmail.com:

> Heyhey!
>
> Страхиња Радић  wrote:
>
>> On 23/05/12 02:11PM, LM wrote:
>> > I'd be curious to know what tools other people use on the list to
>> > handle organizational jobs such as time and task scheduling, todo
>> > lists, habit tracking, displaying/printing calendars, etc.  Any
>> > recommendations?  If you use more than one application, which programs
>> > work together or chain well?  Thanks.
>>
>> http://codemadness.org/todo-application.html
>>
>
> Just chiming in with that years ago I was trying out taskwarrior as
> well but after neglecting this system for years I have simply used a
> ~/TODO.txt file at work.
>
> I always order the items in there according to priority and delete the
> items I have finished using vim. This system has worked very well for
> me and I haven't seen a need to change it yet. Your mileage may vary!
>
> Cheers,
> Silvan
>

Re: [dev] organizing programs

[Silvan Jegen]

Heyhey!

Страхиња Радић  wrote:
> On 23/05/12 02:11PM, LM wrote:
> > I'd be curious to know what tools other people use on the list to
> > handle organizational jobs such as time and task scheduling, todo
> > lists, habit tracking, displaying/printing calendars, etc.  Any
> > recommendations?  If you use more than one application, which programs
> > work together or chain well?  Thanks.
> 
> http://codemadness.org/todo-application.html

Just chiming in with that years ago I was trying out taskwarrior as
well but after neglecting this system for years I have simply used a
~/TODO.txt file at work.

I always order the items in there according to priority and delete the
items I have finished using vim. This system has worked very well for
me and I haven't seen a need to change it yet. Your mileage may vary!

Cheers,
Silvan

Re: [dev] organizing programs

[Страхиња Радић]

On 23/05/12 02:11PM, LM wrote:
> I'd be curious to know what tools other people use on the list to
> handle organizational jobs such as time and task scheduling, todo
> lists, habit tracking, displaying/printing calendars, etc.  Any
> recommendations?  If you use more than one application, which programs
> work together or chain well?  Thanks.

http://codemadness.org/todo-application.html


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Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives

[Sagar Acharya]

Yep. That is true. I didn't think of that at all! But then, why do current 
WiFi, etc. work at 2.4GHz, if device speeds aren't at those levels?

I'll try wireless transmissions of files at 10MHz then in the lower frequency 
regions. Then by replacing hardware, maybe I'll just have to change a single 
number!

I already use just wired connections but today's extreme use of mobile phones 
has made securing wireless networks a compulsion!
Thanking you
Sagar Acharya
http://humaaraartha.in 



13 May 2023, 15:20 by d...@dbrooke.me.uk:

> A simpler alternative to WiFi is to use wires 8-)
>
> Seriously, the radio frequency techniques necessary to provide
> sufficient throughput for today's applications are inevitably complex.
>
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 05:43:04PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote:
>
>> What I'm trying to find is a simple C program which can be run on Arduino 
>> and analog pins connected to an antenna.
>>
>
> The lowest frequency at which WiFi operates is the 2.4GHz band, an
> Arduino (there are many variants, of which some will be faster) is
> likely to be clocked at 10s of MHz so will be unable to generate
> suitable radio frequency signals at its analogue pins.
>
> Back in the '90s I was running TCP/IP over amateur radio at low data
> rates (9600 bps) using KA9Q NOS [1] which was a single C program for
> DOS. It's probably close to the minimum needed for a router, although it
> does typically include some application level features.
>
> These days even embedded systems will likely use an RTOS which may
> include an existing protocol stack, e.g. RTEMS [2] uses a port of the
> FreeBSD stack.
>
> David
>
> [1] http://www.ka9q.net/code/ka9qnos/
> [2] https://www.rtems.org/
>

Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives

[David Brooke]

A simpler alternative to WiFi is to use wires 8-)

Seriously, the radio frequency techniques necessary to provide
sufficient throughput for today's applications are inevitably complex.

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 05:43:04PM +0200, Sagar Acharya wrote:
> What I'm trying to find is a simple C program which can be run on Arduino and 
> analog pins connected to an antenna.

The lowest frequency at which WiFi operates is the 2.4GHz band, an
Arduino (there are many variants, of which some will be faster) is
likely to be clocked at 10s of MHz so will be unable to generate
suitable radio frequency signals at its analogue pins.

Back in the '90s I was running TCP/IP over amateur radio at low data
rates (9600 bps) using KA9Q NOS [1] which was a single C program for
DOS. It's probably close to the minimum needed for a router, although it
does typically include some application level features.

These days even embedded systems will likely use an RTOS which may
include an existing protocol stack, e.g. RTEMS [2] uses a port of the
FreeBSD stack.

David

[1] http://www.ka9q.net/code/ka9qnos/
[2] https://www.rtems.org/

Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives

[ssd]

Hi,

* Laslo Hunhold 2023-05-13 09:51

Even though I absolutely am for free speech and against censorship,
especially self-censorship due to "political correctness" (slippery
slope), what good is free speech when nobody listens? This happens both
when there's little signal over noise and the thread becomes hostile,
because people just check out.


Can't agree more. 


Suckless has always strived to be apolitical in terms of current
societal debates, and it's the only hacker community of that kind that
I know of in Germany. There are enough places to discuss the
current heated politial topics on the web, this is not it.


Everything is political, so is suckless, too, but I agree that it has
been a place where the "hot" politics have been avoided. This is good,
IMO, not because it's good to be apolitical, but because the
polarisation in hot societal debates, doesn't really enable an useful
discourse that contributes to developing better ideas or advance
understanding. The knowledge gain is close to zero.


Freedom isn't free, and in regard to free speech, I think the
responsibility of each individual is to make use of it only as much as
necessary.


Not sure I understand this correctly, but I think it's similar to what I
wanted to add to the thread; let me phrase it differently: abusing the
free speech argument to justify tone and style is just as harmful as
(self-)censorship. Freedom of speach is about ideas and messages.

cheers
--s

Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives

[Hiltjo Posthuma]

On Sat, May 13, 2023 at 12:05:24AM -0700, Jeremy wrote:
> On 05/13/23 10:55AM, NRK wrote:
> > On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:10:31PM +0200, Yan Doroshenko wrote:
> > > Hello everyone,
> > > 
> > > I'd like to take a moment and thank everyone for an extremely polite,
> > > respectful and to the point discussion regarding the topic at hand. I was
> > > immensely pleased to have witnessed such a splendid display of a real
> > > community spirit as well as an immense level of professionalism. No doubt
> > > everyone involved is absolutely content with himself as well as his 
> > > actions
> > > and would have no doubt conducted the same way were it a face to face
> > > discussion.
> > 
> > It is true that this thread has been a massive cesspool. But
> > passive-aggressive replies like this does not help the situation - it
> > only contributes more to the cesspool.
> > 
> > - NRK
> > 
> 
> Have a look at the comment which Mr. Doroshenko was replying to. 
> 
> Personally, I couldn't agree more with Yan. It may seem passive-agressive
> but I believe English is not Mr. Doroshenko's first language, so I
> wouldn't be surprised by the "over-the-top" language.
> (your English is very good, by the way, Mr. Doroshenko)
> 
> Anselm & Hiltjo, suckless veterens(or at least the ones I see most often
> in the suckless threads), kept a cool head & have always refused to engage
> divisive rhetoric(name calling, all-caps, appeals to 1940s facism, etc).
> 

Speaking for myself.  I haven't always keep a cool head.  We're not robots and
only a human bean after all.

> The name-calling does make me a little sad("troll", "loser", "Nazi"),
> along with the characterizations of people's contributions to this
> thread("troll post", "garbage").
> 
> I'd like to think that there are feds(the "glow-in-the-dark" variety) or
> "competitors" sent to this mailing-list to try to trigger our insecurities
> & cause suckless to fragment, but that suckless is already inoculated &
> preoccupied with its own inner-self-criticism to be affected by outside
> forces.
> 
> Moderation in this mailing list is highly disciplined & I'm unironically
> impressed. Thank you.
> 

I don't remember the last time suckless ever banned someone on the mailinglist,
but it's not impossible.

> Jeremy
> 

-- 
Kind regards,
Hiltjo

Re: [dev] organizing programs

[NRK]

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 02:11:33PM -0400, LM wrote:
> I'd be curious to know what tools other people use on the list to
> handle organizational jobs such as time and task scheduling, todo
> lists, habit tracking, displaying/printing calendars, etc.  Any
> recommendations?  If you use more than one application, which programs
> work together or chain well?  Thanks.

In the past I've used taskwarrior [0] for managing todos. It's a cli
application with pretty much most features you might expect out of a
todo app (and as a result of it, the source isn't as small/lean as
typical suckless style software). Not sure if this is the type of thing
you're after or not, but I figured I'd mention it.

However, I no longer use it (or any other todo application) because I
realized these "organizational" application cause more distraction than
productivity (for me at least).

[0]: https://taskwarrior.org/

- NRK

Re: [dev] Simpler WiFi alternatives

[Jeremy]

On 05/13/23 10:55AM, NRK wrote:
> On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 10:10:31PM +0200, Yan Doroshenko wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> > 
> > I'd like to take a moment and thank everyone for an extremely polite,
> > respectful and to the point discussion regarding the topic at hand. I was
> > immensely pleased to have witnessed such a splendid display of a real
> > community spirit as well as an immense level of professionalism. No doubt
> > everyone involved is absolutely content with himself as well as his actions
> > and would have no doubt conducted the same way were it a face to face
> > discussion.
> 
> It is true that this thread has been a massive cesspool. But
> passive-aggressive replies like this does not help the situation - it
> only contributes more to the cesspool.
> 
> - NRK
> 

Have a look at the comment which Mr. Doroshenko was replying to. 

Personally, I couldn't agree more with Yan. It may seem passive-agressive
but I believe English is not Mr. Doroshenko's first language, so I
wouldn't be surprised by the "over-the-top" language.
(your English is very good, by the way, Mr. Doroshenko)

Anselm & Hiltjo, suckless veterens(or at least the ones I see most often
in the suckless threads), kept a cool head & have always refused to engage
divisive rhetoric(name calling, all-caps, appeals to 1940s facism, etc).

The name-calling does make me a little sad("troll", "loser", "Nazi"),
along with the characterizations of people's contributions to this
thread("troll post", "garbage").

I'd like to think that there are feds(the "glow-in-the-dark" variety) or
"competitors" sent to this mailing-list to try to trigger our insecurities
& cause suckless to fragment, but that suckless is already inoculated &
preoccupied with its own inner-self-criticism to be affected by outside
forces.

Moderation in this mailing list is highly disciplined & I'm unironically
impressed. Thank you.

Jeremy