Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On 16 March 2015 at 05:58, Ivan Tham ivanthamjun...@gmail.com wrote: I want to learn C, so now I am waiting for c.learncodethehardway.org to release as other book may seem a bit too long for me. You should rather learn C from its inventors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language BR, Anselm
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Thanks. I will. On 3/16/15, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 March 2015 at 05:58, Ivan Tham ivanthamjun...@gmail.com wrote: I want to learn C, so now I am waiting for c.learncodethehardway.org to release as other book may seem a bit too long for me. You should rather learn C from its inventors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_C_Programming_Language BR, Anselm
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Ivan Tham wrote: I haven't tried dwm as it seems a bit hard to configure compared to i3 but i3 seems to be easier to use (I don't think it it much faster) as it only uses split as horizontal or vertical. Heyho Ivan, just try the default config first. You can easily setup a Xephyr or Xnest to test out both WMs (dwm of course is far superiour ;P) and quickly change dwm's config.h, recompile and relaunch without having to restart your whole X session where you probably want to have some webbrowser or manpages open with documentation. Configuring your software through changing the config.h headerfile and recompiling may seem strange in the beginning, but you will quickly get used to it. This also has a few benefits: The software does not need a config-file parser and also the config is automatically syntax-checked while recompiling. --Markus
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
I haven't tried dwm as it seems a bit hard to configure compared to i3 but i3 seems to be easier to use (I don't think it it much faster) as it only uses split as horizontal or vertical. On 3/15/15, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: On 15 March 2015 at 15:05, Ivan Tham ivanthamjun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I hope someone can add some comparison between dwm and other window manager such as i3 to dwm.suckless.org. Thanks. Why? Feel free to contribute this comparison. BR, Anselm
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Thanks, but I can't read french. On 3/15/15, Sébastien Poher sb...@volted.net wrote: Le dimanche 15 mars 2015 à 10:55:11, Ivan Tham a écrit : I does not like to compile as when I run `make`: ``` dwm build options: CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -DVERSION=6.1 -DXINERAMA LDFLAGS = -s -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXinerama CC = cc creating config.h from config.def.h CC drw.c CC dwm.c dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. Makefile:18: recipe for target 'dwm.o' failed make: *** [dwm.o] Error 1 ``` And what does the Xlib header files means in the README? Hi, It means that you have to install the dev library (for example libx11-dev as named in debian). As for the difference between i3 and dwm, beside the compilation point, here are some that I have noticed (I have used both but prefered dwm): - dwm is faster and simpler to use (less functionnalities if you want to call it like that); - they use different paradigm : i3 creates workspace and associated tags when a client appears or is sent to the considered workspace // dwm has defined tags that you apply to clients; - both uses different layout: in i3 windows can be tiled, stacked or tabbed (or floating); in dwm you have tiling, floating and maximising layout For the rest, its more or less a question of taste. Try both and make you're choice. dwm is not difficult and there is documentation. Take a look at the i3 config file, the first time, you may find it hard as well. I've written tutorials for both (french): http://www.volted.net/tutos/dwm.html http://www.volted.net/tutos/i3.html Regards, -- Sébastien Poher www.volted.net Aidez-nous à défendre la liberté du logiciel: http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=11902
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On 15 March 2015 at 15:05, Ivan Tham ivanthamjun...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I hope someone can add some comparison between dwm and other window manager such as i3 to dwm.suckless.org. Thanks. Why? Feel free to contribute this comparison. BR, Anselm
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Ivan Tham wrote: dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory Heyho Ivan, you need the Xlib header files. On Debian based systems just install xlib-dev and libxinerama-dev (the `-dev` packages contain the header files, if you stumble upon this error anytime in the future again). --Markus
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 10:35:50PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: I haven't tried dwm as it seems a bit hard to configure compared to i3 but i3 seems to be easier to use (I don't think it it much faster) as it only uses split as horizontal or vertical. dwm is not difficult, it is just different. Start with a default configuration and you are good to go. there is a tutorial: http://dwm.suckless.org/tutorial -- Regards Henrique Lengler
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
I does not like to compile as when I run `make`: ``` dwm build options: CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -DVERSION=6.1 -DXINERAMA LDFLAGS = -s -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXinerama CC = cc creating config.h from config.def.h CC drw.c CC dwm.c dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. Makefile:18: recipe for target 'dwm.o' failed make: *** [dwm.o] Error 1 ``` And what does the Xlib header files means in the README?
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Thanks, but how do I know about the -dev, but how do I know libxinerama-dev? Thanks, I had successfully compiled it, trying now. On 3/15/15, Markus Teich markus.te...@stusta.mhn.de wrote: Ivan Tham wrote: dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory Heyho Ivan, you need the Xlib header files. On Debian based systems just install xlib-dev and libxinerama-dev (the `-dev` packages contain the header files, if you stumble upon this error anytime in the future again). --Markus
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Le dimanche 15 mars 2015 à 10:55:11, Ivan Tham a écrit : I does not like to compile as when I run `make`: ``` dwm build options: CFLAGS = -std=c99 -pedantic -Wall -Wno-deprecated-declarations -Os -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_BSD_SOURCE -D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=2 -DVERSION=6.1 -DXINERAMA LDFLAGS = -s -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lX11 -lXinerama CC = cc creating config.h from config.def.h CC drw.c CC dwm.c dwm.c:40:37: fatal error: X11/extensions/Xinerama.h: No such file or directory compilation terminated. Makefile:18: recipe for target 'dwm.o' failed make: *** [dwm.o] Error 1 ``` And what does the Xlib header files means in the README? Hi, It means that you have to install the dev library (for example libx11-dev as named in debian). As for the difference between i3 and dwm, beside the compilation point, here are some that I have noticed (I have used both but prefered dwm): - dwm is faster and simpler to use (less functionnalities if you want to call it like that); - they use different paradigm : i3 creates workspace and associated tags when a client appears or is sent to the considered workspace // dwm has defined tags that you apply to clients; - both uses different layout: in i3 windows can be tiled, stacked or tabbed (or floating); in dwm you have tiling, floating and maximising layout For the rest, its more or less a question of taste. Try both and make you're choice. dwm is not difficult and there is documentation. Take a look at the i3 config file, the first time, you may find it hard as well. I've written tutorials for both (french): http://www.volted.net/tutos/dwm.html http://www.volted.net/tutos/i3.html Regards, -- Sébastien Poher www.volted.net Aidez-nous à défendre la liberté du logiciel: http://www.fsf.org/register_form?referrer=11902 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:07:26PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, but how do I know about the -dev, but how do I know libxinerama-dev? Experience and / or guess-work. Compiler complaining about $HEADER.h? Try installing lib$HEADER-dev (Debian) or $HEADER-devel (RHEL). Failing that, just Google it. If you search debian xinerama.h, the first result is Debian -- File list of package libxinerama-dev/wheezy/s* Even better, the 5th result is [SOLVED] Cannot compile dwm window manager - Ubu... (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1843661). There are also things like apt-file or yum whatprovides which can aid in offline searching. * This is assuming Google isn't doing personalized search result munging. Eric
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
I want to learn C, so now I am waiting for c.learncodethehardway.org to release as other book may seem a bit too long for me. On 3/16/15, Eric Pruitt eric.pru...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:32:44PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, I think I get the concept of what an -dev is. But what is a header file? Short, very simplified answer: header files generally contain information needed to use an API, in this case X11 and Xinerama. For the long answer, you should probably learn C or C++. Eric
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 12:32:44PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, I think I get the concept of what an -dev is. But what is a header file? Short, very simplified answer: header files generally contain information needed to use an API, in this case X11 and Xinerama. For the long answer, you should probably learn C or C++. Eric
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
Thanks, I think I get the concept of what an -dev is. But what is a header file? On 3/16/15, Eric Pruitt eric.pru...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:07:26PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, but how do I know about the -dev, but how do I know libxinerama-dev? Experience and / or guess-work. Compiler complaining about $HEADER.h? Try installing lib$HEADER-dev (Debian) or $HEADER-devel (RHEL). Failing that, just Google it. If you search debian xinerama.h, the first result is Debian -- File list of package libxinerama-dev/wheezy/s* Even better, the 5th result is [SOLVED] Cannot compile dwm window manager - Ubu... (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1843661). There are also things like apt-file or yum whatprovides which can aid in offline searching. * This is assuming Google isn't doing personalized search result munging. Eric
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:07:26PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, but how do I know about the -dev, but how do I know libxinerama-dev? Experience and / or guess-work. Compiler complaining about $HEADER.h? Try installing lib$HEADER-dev (Debian) or $HEADER-devel (RHEL). Failing If you are using debian based distro you can install apt-file: apt-file update (first time to build the database) apt-file search file (it will say you which package has the file). Regards,
Re: [dev] [dwm] Add i3 to differences in http://dwm.suckless.org/
How useful is that apt-file? I had installed it, but I don't know what are the uses for it. On 3/16/15, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero k...@shike2.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 11:07:26PM +0800, Ivan Tham wrote: Thanks, but how do I know about the -dev, but how do I know libxinerama-dev? Experience and / or guess-work. Compiler complaining about $HEADER.h? Try installing lib$HEADER-dev (Debian) or $HEADER-devel (RHEL). Failing If you are using debian based distro you can install apt-file: apt-file update (first time to build the database) apt-file search file (it will say you which package has the file). Regards,
