Re: [dev] Re: Suckless sh [Was: Re: New utility]
On 9/26/11, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: Okay. I'm a bit brain-dead this week but if I remember right: This puts stdout and stderr in the same place: $ foo 21 | bar This puts them in different places: $ foo 21 file Didn't rc fix this by executing file and file descriptor redirection ltr?
Re: [dev] Re: Suckless sh [Was: Re: New utility]
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm wrote: On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:17:23 +0200 Christian Neukirchen chneukirc...@gmail.com wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm writes: Shell language in general, as a tool to use. It's not just cp mv, there are other things. cp -r and mv -r should be split into separate commands, agreed. And named arguments should be passed in environ instead of argv (which, as an array, should be reserved for positional arguments). But you can't blame the shell. Try bashing terminal emulators, I think we can all agree on their obsoleteness :) rc's redirection syntax is remarkably clean and powerful, but it shouldn't be very hard to hack 21 support in there if you don't want to use [2=1]. Actually I find rc's way less annoying than bash's but there's a sort of inconsistancy between and | which might be there for a good reason but which keeps surprising me. Care to elaborate?
Re: [dev] Re: Suckless sh [Was: Re: New utility]
On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 13:47:58 + Bjartur Thorlacius svartma...@gmail.com wrote: rc's redirection syntax is remarkably clean and powerful, but it shouldn't be very hard to hack 21 support in there if you don't want to use [2=1]. Actually I find rc's way less annoying than bash's but there's a sort of inconsistancy between and | which might be there for a good reason but which keeps surprising me. Care to elaborate? Okay. I'm a bit brain-dead this week but if I remember right: This puts stdout and stderr in the same place: $ foo 21 | bar This puts them in different places: $ foo 21 file Similar for rc.
Re: [dev] Re: Suckless sh [Was: Re: New utility]
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:17:23 +0200 Christian Neukirchen chneukirc...@gmail.com wrote: Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fm writes: It's redirection and the behaviour of cp mv when the last arg is a dir that bother me, in rc. What has the behavior of cp and mv to do with the shell used? Shell language in general, as a tool to use. It's not just cp mv, there are other things. rc's redirection syntax is remarkably clean and powerful, but it shouldn't be very hard to hack 21 support in there if you don't want to use [2=1]. Actually I find rc's way less annoying than bash's but there's a sort of inconsistancy between and | which might be there for a good reason but which keeps surprising me.
