Re: Anything I could do to help?

[Marko Rodriguez]

Self-cancel? What does that mean. I was going about my business and Apache gave 
some fellow ‘danielfb' access to our private@tinkerpop mailing list. He said he 
was offended by a picture I posted on Twitter where I dressed up one of my 
chickens in WW2 paraphernalia. What that had to do with Apache, I don’t know. 
However Stephen didn’t seem to stand up for his long time collaborator and just 
acted as if everything would go away (Stephen has always had a ‘ostrich head in 
the sand’-type of approach to life for as long as I’ve known him). Continuing, 
it then happened that ‘danielfb’ wasn’t able to get support for getting me 
kicked off from TinkerPop (no one on the PMC cared about some random goofy 
Twitter picture), so Apache decided to say “well if Marko’s colleagues aren’t 
going to say he is a Nazi racist, then we are!” and they decided to step over 
TinkerPop and have me removed from the project. Next, notice that the TinkerPop 
PMC has gone completely quiet. Where is Kuppitz? Where is The Baptist? … It’s 
just become Stephen idling about on the codebase that hasn’t seen any major 
innovation in years… Where is any of his help?

So, not self-cancel, but Apache-cancel.
And ‘crazy’ is how you want to call it, cause arguably you are the craziest one 
of us all with the life choices you’ve made that constantly leave you high and 
dry (Aspergers in a son-of-a-gun especially in this highly social world), but I 
digress — the danielfb situation seems crazy.

Since you are now on the TinkerPop PMC, could you inquire as to who this 
‘danielfb’ fellow is and why he was given access to our private mailing list? 
Moreover, can you inquire as to why a picture I posted on Twitter had anything 
to do with Apache? I asked these questions but I was ignored by the Apache 
Board. They were quick to remove my email address from all the internal mailing 
lists.

Getting to the bottom of these problems would be beneficial as there are some 
dangling issues that should be resolved to determine whether Apache is a 
legitimate OSS organization or a “committee by whim” pushing ideologies and 
making sure people behave according to some unwritten agendas. There was a 
fellow on gremlin-users@ that hinted at such failings of Apache.

I appreciate your time. Hope you will get around to accomplishing good work for 
TinkerPop,
Marko.

http://markorodriguez.com 






> On Sep 7, 2021, at 7:23 PM, Joshua Shinavier  wrote:
> 
> Marko, I doubt anyone thinks you're actually a Nazi racist. Why you chose
> to self-cancel like that, the world may never know, but you might have
> shown more consideration toward those who wanted to support you in spite of
> all the craziness. I don't see us working together so soon after these
> weird rants on the dev list, but I won't speak for anyone else. You're
> still a TinkerPop contributor. Go ahead and do something.
> 
> Josh
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:34 PM Marko Rodriguez  > wrote:
> 
>> Hi guys/gals,
>> 
>> Looks like it’s just been Stephen nick-nacking away again as it’s been the
>> last few years. Given the recent big turnover in management, I was hoping
>> to eat my own words and see some performance out of Josh, but unfortunately
>> as given the last 15+ years, 'talk and walk’ (which is even worse than
>> ‘commit and split’). Given that Amazon Neptune is including openCypher in
>> their distribution and with Neo4j just took in a whomping $300+ million in
>> a Series , seems Apache TinkerPop will be falling to the
>> wayside unless some real innovation happens.
>> 
>> As such, perhaps I could offer a helping hand given my intimate knowledge
>> of the codebase and my master of the theory and history of graph computing
>> that I helped formulate over the last 15 years. With that said, I
>> completely understand if y’all need to hold to the narrative that I’m a
>> “Nazi racist” and thus, unworthy of contributing (after all, the "Nazi
>> code" I wrote over a decade has proven how detrimental ‘racism’ has been to
>> the integrity of the software). However, on the other hand, if y’all have
>> moved past such trivial concepts of ‘good and evil’, perhaps we can get
>> TinkerPop movin' again.
>> 
>> Take care mein comrades,
>> Marko.
>> 
>> http://markorodriguez.com  
>> >

Re: Anything I could do to help?

[Joshua Shinavier]

Marko, I doubt anyone thinks you're actually a Nazi racist. Why you chose
to self-cancel like that, the world may never know, but you might have
shown more consideration toward those who wanted to support you in spite of
all the craziness. I don't see us working together so soon after these
weird rants on the dev list, but I won't speak for anyone else. You're
still a TinkerPop contributor. Go ahead and do something.

Josh





On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 3:34 PM Marko Rodriguez  wrote:

> Hi guys/gals,
>
> Looks like it’s just been Stephen nick-nacking away again as it’s been the
> last few years. Given the recent big turnover in management, I was hoping
> to eat my own words and see some performance out of Josh, but unfortunately
> as given the last 15+ years, 'talk and walk’ (which is even worse than
> ‘commit and split’). Given that Amazon Neptune is including openCypher in
> their distribution and with Neo4j just took in a whomping $300+ million in
> a Series , seems Apache TinkerPop will be falling to the
> wayside unless some real innovation happens.
>
> As such, perhaps I could offer a helping hand given my intimate knowledge
> of the codebase and my master of the theory and history of graph computing
> that I helped formulate over the last 15 years. With that said, I
> completely understand if y’all need to hold to the narrative that I’m a
> “Nazi racist” and thus, unworthy of contributing (after all, the "Nazi
> code" I wrote over a decade has proven how detrimental ‘racism’ has been to
> the integrity of the software). However, on the other hand, if y’all have
> moved past such trivial concepts of ‘good and evil’, perhaps we can get
> TinkerPop movin' again.
>
> Take care mein comrades,
> Marko.
>
> http://markorodriguez.com 
>
>
>