Re: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-27 Thread Roland Turner (Apache)
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 20:37 +, Mark Thomas wrote:

> I doubt there has been see-sawing. 4.1.x and 5.x have been developed
> in parallel so it is more likely that the change was made on the 4.1.x
> and the 5.0.x branch at roughly the same time although I haven't been
> back through the SVN logs to confirm this.

I hadn't considered this (in retrospect, obvious) possibility. Thanks.

> As to the why, searching the archives for "serialize principal" turned
> up this thread:
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=107841409104907&w=2

Interesting. I had been searching Google which, bizarely, was not (and
is not) turning that thread up. The next poster in that thread is
jfarcand himself, so you've given me someone to ask. Many thanks.

- Raz


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Re: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-26 Thread Marc de Klerk
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Thanks


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Subject: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

Hi all.

Last week I posted the question below. It appears from the (near)
complete silence that followed that no-one knows. So, my new question is
about tomcat's change process. I've not submitted code to tomcat before,
so don't really where to start. Is simply posting a patch to this list
an appropriate place to start?

- Raz

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 17:41 +, Roland Turner (Apache) wrote:
> I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
> indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
> object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
> impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
> present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
> 5.0.20 changelog:
> 
> Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
> (jfarcand)
> 
> Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
> I've missed)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Raz


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Re: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-26 Thread Mark Thomas
Roland Turner (Apache) wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> Last week I posted the question below. It appears from the (near)
> complete silence that followed that no-one knows. So, my new question is
> about tomcat's change process. I've not submitted code to tomcat before,
> so don't really where to start. Is simply posting a patch to this list
> an appropriate place to start?
> 
> - Raz
> 
> On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 17:41 +, Roland Turner (Apache) wrote:
> 
>>I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
>>indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
>>object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
>>impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
>>present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
>>5.0.20 changelog:
>>
>>Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
>>(jfarcand)

I doubt there has been see-sawing. 4.1.x and 5.x have been developed
in parallel so it is more likely that the change was made on the 4.1.x
and the 5.0.x branch at roughly the same time although I haven't been
back through the SVN logs to confirm this.

As to the why, searching the archives for "serialize principal" turned
up this thread:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=tomcat-dev&m=107841409104907&w=2

Not a complete explanation, but a start. Maybe some further digging in
the archives would turn up the answer you are looking for.


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Re: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-26 Thread Roland Turner (Apache)
On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 15:47 +0100, Leon Rosenberg wrote:

> Opening a bugzilla ticket (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/) and
> attaching a patch there is surely the first step to take :-)

Ah, good idea. Thanks.

Now, to work up that patch...

- Raz


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Re: Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-26 Thread Leon Rosenberg
Opening a bugzilla ticket (http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/) and
attaching a patch there is surely the first step to take :-)

regards
Leon

On 2/26/06, Roland Turner (Apache) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> Last week I posted the question below. It appears from the (near)
> complete silence that followed that no-one knows. So, my new question is
> about tomcat's change process. I've not submitted code to tomcat before,
> so don't really where to start. Is simply posting a patch to this list
> an appropriate place to start?
>
> - Raz
>
> On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 17:41 +, Roland Turner (Apache) wrote:
> > I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
> > indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
> > object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
> > impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
> > present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
> > 5.0.20 changelog:
> >
> > Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
> > (jfarcand)
> >
> > Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
> > I've missed)?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > - Raz
>
>
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Change process (Was: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?)

2006-02-26 Thread Roland Turner (Apache)
Hi all.

Last week I posted the question below. It appears from the (near)
complete silence that followed that no-one knows. So, my new question is
about tomcat's change process. I've not submitted code to tomcat before,
so don't really where to start. Is simply posting a patch to this list
an appropriate place to start?

- Raz

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 17:41 +, Roland Turner (Apache) wrote:
> I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
> indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
> object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
> impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
> present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
> 5.0.20 changelog:
> 
> Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
> (jfarcand)
> 
> Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
> I've missed)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Raz


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Re: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?

2006-02-20 Thread Roland Turner (Apache)
On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 23:33 -0800, Marc de Klerk wrote:

> I must be subscribed there by mistake... It would be great if I was 
> unsubscribed.

Fair enough. Instructions for doing so appear, as with most mailing list
email nowadays, at the bottom of each article. From your own reply:

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(N.B. It is unlikely that the list administrator is actually subscribed
to the list, so there is little point posting requests for
unsubscription to the list itself.)

- Raz


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Re: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?

2006-02-19 Thread Marc de Klerk
Thanks for your reply,

I must be subscribed there by mistake... It would be great if I was 
unsubscribed.
Thanks,
Marc

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To: Marc de Klerk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 9:25:15 PM
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Hi Marc,

On Sun, 2006-02-19 at 10:05 -0800, Marc de Klerk wrote:
> is this spam or can you guys take me out of the mailing list?

I'm puzzled by your reply.

- Are you unaware that you're subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(Given that it averages ~20 messages a day, I assume that you cannot
possibly be unaware of your subscription to it.)

or

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Something else?

- Raz


> - Original Message 
> From: Roland Turner (Apache) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: dev@tomcat.apache.org
> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:41:56 PM
> Subject: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?
> 
> I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
> indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
> object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
> impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
> present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
> 5.0.20 changelog:
> 
> Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
> (jfarcand)
> 
> Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
> I've missed)?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> - Raz
> 
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Re: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?

2006-02-19 Thread Marc de Klerk
is this spam or can you guys take me out of the mailing list?

- Original Message 
From: Roland Turner (Apache) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: dev@tomcat.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 6:41:56 PM
Subject: Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?

I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
5.0.20 changelog:

Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
(jfarcand)

Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
I've missed)?

Thanks.

- Raz


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Persistent storage of sessions, why no Principal?

2006-02-19 Thread Roland Turner (Apache)
I note that StandardSession has notes on the authType and principal
indicating that they are not included in the serialised form of the
object, but no explanation of this choice is obvious. I also have the
impression that there's some see-sawing on this; the limitation is
present in 4.1.31 and 5.0.30, but some Googling shows this up in the
5.0.20 changelog:

Avoid serializing Subject/Principal when persisting the session
(jfarcand)

Can someone explain why (or point me at an existing explanation that
I've missed)?

Thanks.

- Raz


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