Re: What is the destiny of the Apache Tomcat project in view of java is getting more and more proprietary with Oracle?

2012-11-27 Thread Alex Yursha
Mark and Henry,
Thank you very much. Your responses were of great help.


On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM, Henri Gomez henri.go...@gmail.com wrote:

 Java is not more proprietary with Oracle as it was with Sun.

 OpenJDK is a proof you could get, build and use your own Java 7, 8 and more
 at home.

 I built OpenJDK for OSX for almost 2 years and I was happy to be able to
 have home made JVMs, for the first time.

 If you take a look at OBuildFactory
 (https://github.com/hgomez/obuildfactory), you'll
 see its not so hard to build and package OpenJDK (stock from source repos)
 for OSX and Linux

 So if you're unconfortable with proprietary APIs, OpenJDK is your best
 chance to get a 100% free and open JVM  :-)




 2012/11/23 Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org

  On 22/11/2012 15:20, Alex Yursha wrote:
   Dear All,
   Could anybody please provide me with some info on the status of Apache
   Tomcat development? I can't clear up, what is the attitude of ASF to
   java-based projects after all this mess with leaving the JCP EC. Is it
   going to continue java language-based projects forever or is there any
   formal decision by ASF in this regard? My question arises from the fact
   that Apache Tomcat is java-based and therefore have to rely on Oracle
  java
   proprietary APIs. Please say, what I'm missing here?
   Thank you very much in advance.
 
  Short version: no change. The Tomcat community continues to implement
  the Servlet, JSP and EL specifications and is working on the
  implementation of the next version of all of those specifications as
  well as the addition of the new WebSocket implementation.
 
  Mark
 
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Regards,
Alex Yursha


Re: What is the destiny of the Apache Tomcat project in view of java is getting more and more proprietary with Oracle?

2012-11-23 Thread Mark Thomas
On 22/11/2012 15:20, Alex Yursha wrote:
 Dear All,
 Could anybody please provide me with some info on the status of Apache
 Tomcat development? I can't clear up, what is the attitude of ASF to
 java-based projects after all this mess with leaving the JCP EC. Is it
 going to continue java language-based projects forever or is there any
 formal decision by ASF in this regard? My question arises from the fact
 that Apache Tomcat is java-based and therefore have to rely on Oracle java
 proprietary APIs. Please say, what I'm missing here?
 Thank you very much in advance.

Short version: no change. The Tomcat community continues to implement
the Servlet, JSP and EL specifications and is working on the
implementation of the next version of all of those specifications as
well as the addition of the new WebSocket implementation.

Mark

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Re: What is the destiny of the Apache Tomcat project in view of java is getting more and more proprietary with Oracle?

2012-11-23 Thread Henri Gomez
Java is not more proprietary with Oracle as it was with Sun.

OpenJDK is a proof you could get, build and use your own Java 7, 8 and more
at home.

I built OpenJDK for OSX for almost 2 years and I was happy to be able to
have home made JVMs, for the first time.

If you take a look at OBuildFactory
(https://github.com/hgomez/obuildfactory), you'll
see its not so hard to build and package OpenJDK (stock from source repos)
for OSX and Linux

So if you're unconfortable with proprietary APIs, OpenJDK is your best
chance to get a 100% free and open JVM  :-)




2012/11/23 Mark Thomas ma...@apache.org

 On 22/11/2012 15:20, Alex Yursha wrote:
  Dear All,
  Could anybody please provide me with some info on the status of Apache
  Tomcat development? I can't clear up, what is the attitude of ASF to
  java-based projects after all this mess with leaving the JCP EC. Is it
  going to continue java language-based projects forever or is there any
  formal decision by ASF in this regard? My question arises from the fact
  that Apache Tomcat is java-based and therefore have to rely on Oracle
 java
  proprietary APIs. Please say, what I'm missing here?
  Thank you very much in advance.

 Short version: no change. The Tomcat community continues to implement
 the Servlet, JSP and EL specifications and is working on the
 implementation of the next version of all of those specifications as
 well as the addition of the new WebSocket implementation.

 Mark

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What is the destiny of the Apache Tomcat project in view of java is getting more and more proprietary with Oracle?

2012-11-22 Thread Alex Yursha
Dear All,
Could anybody please provide me with some info on the status of Apache
Tomcat development? I can't clear up, what is the attitude of ASF to
java-based projects after all this mess with leaving the JCP EC. Is it
going to continue java language-based projects forever or is there any
formal decision by ASF in this regard? My question arises from the fact
that Apache Tomcat is java-based and therefore have to rely on Oracle java
proprietary APIs. Please say, what I'm missing here?
Thank you very much in advance.
-- 
Regards,
Alex Yursha