Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and here is a test build for Tools 2.0-beta3: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ this should be the last Tools 2.0 beta release, barring any major bugs appearing. with another push on the documentation front, we should be able to get 2.0 to final by Christmas. anyway, give the tires a kicking on this one too. hopefully, we can release this the same day as Engine 1.6. then i'll only have to ask Henning to update the public site once. that would be nice. :) thanks, nathan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional
[RESULT] [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's the result for the record: -1 Nathan Bubna Will Glass-Husain On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and here is a test build for Tools 2.0-beta3: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ this should be the last Tools 2.0 beta release, barring any major bugs appearing. with another push on the documentation front, we should be able to get 2.0 to final by Christmas. anyway, give the tires a kicking on this one too. hopefully, we can release this the same day as Engine 1.6. then i'll only have to ask Henning to update the public site once. that would be nice. :) thanks, nathan - To unsubscribe,
Re: VelocityTools 2.0-beta3 test build available
Ok, given Will's feedback during the vote, i've updated the download.xml file to hopefully fix these problems. An update test build is available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ If you already tried it out, please re-try building from the packaged source. And please do so before Wednesday morning, as i currently plan to call for a new vote then. Thanks! On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and here is a test build for Tools 2.0-beta3: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ this should be the last Tools 2.0 beta release, barring any major bugs appearing. with another push on the documentation front, we should be able to get 2.0 to final by Christmas. anyway, give the tires a kicking on this one too. hopefully, we can release this the same day as Engine 1.6. then i'll only have to ask Henning to update the public site once. that would be nice. :) thanks, nathan - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3. Though if i get 3 +1s before then, i'll end it early. It's just a beta, after all. :) My vote is, again, +1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's the result for the record: -1 Nathan Bubna Will Glass-Husain On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: and here is a
Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
+1 ran ant test and mvn on JDK 1.5 WILL Forio Business Simulations Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.forio.com On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3. Though if i get 3 +1s before then, i'll end it early. It's just a beta, after all. :) My vote is, again, +1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's the result for the record: -1 Nathan Bubna Will Glass-Husain On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ]
[jira] Created: (VELTOOLS-110) An OGNL Tool, perhaps
An OGNL Tool, perhaps - Key: VELTOOLS-110 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110 Project: Velocity Tools Issue Type: Improvement Components: GenericTools Affects Versions: 2.0 Reporter: Ezra Epstein Priority: Minor Fix For: 2.0 I've been using a combination of the Velocity Tools and it occurred to me that much of the functionality is available via OGNL and so I was thinking about writing an OGNL tool. Then it occurred to me that, perhaps, the V-Tools team hadn't yet checked out OGNL, so I'm dropping this note to mention it. Do check it out. OGNL with the V Context as the root this node, would be a very powerful tool. While on the subject of integrating with other things, I always wondered why the VelocityContext doesn't implement the java.util.Map interface. I know that's part of the Velocity project not tools, but it's a curiosity for me. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Release Velocity Engine 1.6
RAT looks good, builds for me with JDK 1.6.0_10 on i386 Linux (Fedora). +1 Ciao Henning On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 07:08 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build that were worth generating a new test build and delaying this (IMO), so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build candidate for release is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as Velocity Engine 1.6: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok folks, i think the time has come; here's a build for Engine 1.6: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ please kick the tires and report any and all nitpicks soon. PLEASE try it out and look for problems. (yes, i am begging!) assuming no one sees any problems, i'll call for a release vote next friday. thanks, nathan p.s. this release should rock; here's a rough list of new things in this release: Major memory and speed performance improvements varargs support for object method calls #evaluate( $stringthatcontainsvtl ) #define( $body ) for VTL blocks as references #end #break for ending #foreach loops prematurely Static utility methods via context.put(Math, Math.class) fixes for many annoying little syntax/parsing bugs #parse( mymacros.vm ) CommonsLogLogChute, ServletLogChute Fixed and much improved StringResourceLoader velocimacro.max.depth programmatic inclusion of macro libraries can now call fixed-length list methods on arrays $velocityHasNext for #foreach loops configurable connection timeout for URLResourceLoader Uberspect chainability and link-ability consistent, correct line numbers and macro/template stacks in logs and exceptions - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Java, J2EE, Linux Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Consultant, Architect, Developer Web: http://henning.schmiedehausen.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
Drawing the [VOTE] thread to Henning's attention... :) On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3. Though if i get 3 +1s before then, i'll end it early. It's just a beta, after all. :) My vote is, again, +1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's the result for the record: -1 Nathan Bubna Will Glass-Husain On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to
[jira] Updated: (VELTOOLS-110) An OGNL Tool, perhaps
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Nathan Bubna updated VELTOOLS-110: -- Fix Version/s: (was: 2.0) I know a bit about OGNL, but what i know leads me to see it as more similar to Velocity itself than to the Tools used within Velocity. Do you have examples of how you would use it within Velocity? Or how an OGNLTool would be used? As to why VelocityContext doesn't implement Map, it just doesn't appear to be an itch that anyone has yet found necessary to scratch. If it itches you, feel free to post a patch to Velocity Engine's JIRA or open a thread on the dev list or something. An OGNL Tool, perhaps - Key: VELTOOLS-110 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110 Project: Velocity Tools Issue Type: Improvement Components: GenericTools Affects Versions: 2.0 Reporter: Ezra Epstein Priority: Minor I've been using a combination of the Velocity Tools and it occurred to me that much of the functionality is available via OGNL and so I was thinking about writing an OGNL tool. Then it occurred to me that, perhaps, the V-Tools team hadn't yet checked out OGNL, so I'm dropping this note to mention it. Do check it out. OGNL with the V Context as the root this node, would be a very powerful tool. While on the subject of integrating with other things, I always wondered why the VelocityContext doesn't implement the java.util.Map interface. I know that's part of the Velocity project not tools, but it's a curiosity for me. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[RESULT] [VOTE] Release Velocity Engine 1.6
Ok, here's the tally: +1 Nathan Bubna matthijs lambooy Ilkha Priha Erron Austin Will Glass-Husain Henning Schmiedehausen On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT looks good, builds for me with JDK 1.6.0_10 on i386 Linux (Fedora). +1 Ciao Henning On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 07:08 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build that were worth generating a new test build and delaying this (IMO), so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build candidate for release is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as Velocity Engine 1.6: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok folks, i think the time has come; here's a build for Engine 1.6: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ please kick the tires and report any and all nitpicks soon. PLEASE try it out and look for problems. (yes, i am begging!) assuming no one sees any problems, i'll call for a release vote next friday. thanks, nathan p.s. this release should rock; here's a rough list of new things in this release: Major memory and speed performance improvements varargs support for object method calls #evaluate( $stringthatcontainsvtl ) #define( $body ) for VTL blocks as references #end #break for ending #foreach loops prematurely Static utility methods via context.put(Math, Math.class) fixes for many annoying little syntax/parsing bugs #parse( mymacros.vm ) CommonsLogLogChute, ServletLogChute Fixed and much improved StringResourceLoader velocimacro.max.depth programmatic inclusion of macro libraries can now call fixed-length list methods on arrays $velocityHasNext for #foreach loops configurable connection timeout for URLResourceLoader Uberspect chainability and link-ability consistent, correct line numbers and macro/template stacks in logs and exceptions - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Java, J2EE, Linux Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Consultant, Architect, Developer Web: http://henning.schmiedehausen.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Velocity Engine 1.6
Shoot. Meant to save that as a draft and send it first thing tomorrow. Just consider this to have been sent about 12 hours from now. :) Thanks. On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, here's the tally: +1 Nathan Bubna matthijs lambooy Ilkha Priha Erron Austin Will Glass-Husain Henning Schmiedehausen On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:52 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RAT looks good, builds for me with JDK 1.6.0_10 on i386 Linux (Fedora). +1 Ciao Henning On Fri, 2008-11-28 at 07:08 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build that were worth generating a new test build and delaying this (IMO), so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build candidate for release is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as Velocity Engine 1.6: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 7am PST on Monday, Dec 1st. If the vote passes, I'll push this to the mirrors and change the web site and get Henning to deploy it. With luck i'll be able to announce it by Wed. On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 11:38 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok folks, i think the time has come; here's a build for Engine 1.6: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/engine/1.6/ please kick the tires and report any and all nitpicks soon. PLEASE try it out and look for problems. (yes, i am begging!) assuming no one sees any problems, i'll call for a release vote next friday. thanks, nathan p.s. this release should rock; here's a rough list of new things in this release: Major memory and speed performance improvements varargs support for object method calls #evaluate( $stringthatcontainsvtl ) #define( $body ) for VTL blocks as references #end #break for ending #foreach loops prematurely Static utility methods via context.put(Math, Math.class) fixes for many annoying little syntax/parsing bugs #parse( mymacros.vm ) CommonsLogLogChute, ServletLogChute Fixed and much improved StringResourceLoader velocimacro.max.depth programmatic inclusion of macro libraries can now call fixed-length list methods on arrays $velocityHasNext for #foreach loops configurable connection timeout for URLResourceLoader Uberspect chainability and link-ability consistent, correct line numbers and macro/template stacks in logs and exceptions - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Dipl.-Inf. (Univ.) Henning P. Schmiedehausen -- Java, J2EE, Linux Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]-- Consultant, Architect, Developer Web: http://henning.schmiedehausen.org/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [VOTE] Release VelocityTools 2.0-beta3
+1 :-) On Sun, 2008-11-30 at 20:22 -0800, Nathan Bubna wrote: Drawing the [VOTE] thread to Henning's attention... :) On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 2:21 PM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, Will said the new test build works for him; it is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because __ The voting period is typically 72 hours, putting its close time as roughly 2pm PST on Wednesday, Dec 3. Though if i get 3 +1s before then, i'll end it early. It's just a beta, after all. :) My vote is, again, +1 On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 9:01 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i've accepted Will's veto and am changing my vote to -1, so here's the result for the record: -1 Nathan Bubna Will Glass-Husain On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Will. I actually feel like Adrian (or someone) reported this too, but i forgot about it, since it's been working fine for me. Well, i'll scrap this one and try to fix that. I guess this won't be going out in the same site update as Velocity Engine 1.6. On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Will Glass-Husain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1. Doesn't build. see error report below. WILL C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-srcant Buildfile: build.xml clean: [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [delete] Deleting directory C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist clean-examples: simple-example: example-clean: showcase-example: example-clean: struts-example: example-clean: test.clean: prepare.compile: [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build\classes [mkdir] Created dir: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\dist base-download: commons-collections-download: http-m1-download: do-http-m1-download: [get] Getting: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] To: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Error opening connection java.io.FileNotFoundException: http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collecti ons/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar [get] Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jarto C:\Doc uments and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar BUILD FAILED C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\build.xml:104: The following error occurred while executing this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:40: The following error occurred while executin g this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:209: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:121: The following error occurred while executi ng this line: C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0-beta3-src\download.xml:132: Can't get http://mirrors.ibiblio.org/pub/m irrors/maven2/commons-collections/jars/commons-collections-3.2.jar to C:\Documents and Settings\wglass\Desktop\velocity-tools-2.0- beta3-src\lib\commons-collections-3.2.jar Total time: 1 second On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Nathan Bubna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, there were no complaints about the current test build, so i'm moving on to a vote. The test build is still available here: http://people.apache.org/~nbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/http://people.apache.org/%7Enbubna/velocity/tools/2.0-beta3/ Please vote regarding your support for releasing this new test build as VelocityTools 2.0-beta3: [ ] +1 Let's do it [ ] +0 Have fun; i don't care. [ ] -0 Not sure about this, but i won't stop you. [ ] -1 No, because
[jira] Commented: (VELTOOLS-110) An OGNL Tool, perhaps
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12651906#action_12651906 ] Ezra Epstein commented on VELTOOLS-110: --- OGNL wouldn't do any of the template combination, and parsing. But it does do object-graph navigation, which, of course, Velocity does to some extent. But OGNL opens up a world of goodies. You can access ANY class loaded in the JVM and its static methods and fields, no need to configure a ClassTool per class. OGNL can do projection across collections, it supports the ternary operator, built-in, also supports math and other operators - no need to use the #set directive, nor the MathTool. So you can combine everything in one very naturally: that is, the syntax reads like Java syntax, including access to array elements by index. In short it combines the features of quite a few tools with a few of the features of Velocity. http://www.ognl.org/2.6.9/Documentation/html/LanguageGuide/index.html to your point about the overlap, I think the two are mutually supportive frameworks. Yes, one could, I suppose, write a version of Velocity that directly leverages OGNL internally, but that would still mean all the template parsing, etc. would be needed on top of OGNL. The only caveat I've heard about OGNL is that some other approaches run faster. But then if it's a tool, it's the template author's choice to use it or not. One project that uses OGNL extensively is Tapestry. See the 4.x version. An OGNL Tool, perhaps - Key: VELTOOLS-110 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110 Project: Velocity Tools Issue Type: Improvement Components: GenericTools Affects Versions: 2.0 Reporter: Ezra Epstein Priority: Minor I've been using a combination of the Velocity Tools and it occurred to me that much of the functionality is available via OGNL and so I was thinking about writing an OGNL tool. Then it occurred to me that, perhaps, the V-Tools team hadn't yet checked out OGNL, so I'm dropping this note to mention it. Do check it out. OGNL with the V Context as the root this node, would be a very powerful tool. While on the subject of integrating with other things, I always wondered why the VelocityContext doesn't implement the java.util.Map interface. I know that's part of the Velocity project not tools, but it's a curiosity for me. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Resolved: (VELTOOLS-110) An OGNL Tool, perhaps
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Nathan Bubna resolved VELTOOLS-110. --- Resolution: Won't Fix Yeah, that fits with what i've heard. I don't we're likely to ever include such a thing in the core engine. And i don't think it would actually be a better thing to have an omnibus tool that does a bunch of different things. Most people don't need to use all the functions of a bunch of different tools. Better to keep it piecemeal for performance and flexibility. Still, if you make such a tool, it'd be great if you were willing to share it. Our wiki is always available for such things! I'm still curious, at least. An OGNL Tool, perhaps - Key: VELTOOLS-110 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110 Project: Velocity Tools Issue Type: Improvement Components: GenericTools Affects Versions: 2.0 Reporter: Ezra Epstein Priority: Minor I've been using a combination of the Velocity Tools and it occurred to me that much of the functionality is available via OGNL and so I was thinking about writing an OGNL tool. Then it occurred to me that, perhaps, the V-Tools team hadn't yet checked out OGNL, so I'm dropping this note to mention it. Do check it out. OGNL with the V Context as the root this node, would be a very powerful tool. While on the subject of integrating with other things, I always wondered why the VelocityContext doesn't implement the java.util.Map interface. I know that's part of the Velocity project not tools, but it's a curiosity for me. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[jira] Commented: (VELTOOLS-110) An OGNL Tool, perhaps
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanelfocusedCommentId=12651911#action_12651911 ] Adrian Tarau commented on VELTOOLS-110: --- There is another project which is similar with OGNL, but it seems it performs better : http://mvel.codehaus.org/Home However, the main purpose of those libraries is to provide an expression language library and not a template library. Most of the time it is used to evaluate dynamically expressions and return a value(object) and not to generate content. Even if they will provide in the end a template functionality on top of their expression language evaluator, it is not a project dedicated to provide a template engine and only that. Sooner or later these projects may take a turn and drop/change/deprecate their support for the template engine. I agree, Velocity could borrow some of their functionality, but I don't think it makes sense to merge a tool like Velocity(a template engine) with a tool like OGNL or MVL(expression language). MVEL is a powerful expression language for Java-based applications. It provides a plethora of features and is suited for everything from the smallest property binding and extraction, to full blown scripts OGNL stands for Object-Graph Navigation Language; it is an expression language for getting and setting properties of Java objects. You use the same expression for both getting and setting the value of a property. An OGNL Tool, perhaps - Key: VELTOOLS-110 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/VELTOOLS-110 Project: Velocity Tools Issue Type: Improvement Components: GenericTools Affects Versions: 2.0 Reporter: Ezra Epstein Priority: Minor I've been using a combination of the Velocity Tools and it occurred to me that much of the functionality is available via OGNL and so I was thinking about writing an OGNL tool. Then it occurred to me that, perhaps, the V-Tools team hadn't yet checked out OGNL, so I'm dropping this note to mention it. Do check it out. OGNL with the V Context as the root this node, would be a very powerful tool. While on the subject of integrating with other things, I always wondered why the VelocityContext doesn't implement the java.util.Map interface. I know that's part of the Velocity project not tools, but it's a curiosity for me. -- This message is automatically generated by JIRA. - You can reply to this email to add a comment to the issue online. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
