Re: No JIRA changes sent to a mailing list?

2015-05-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
Definitely dev@

Thanks, Sergiu!

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Mike Kienenberger mkien...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I'd say dev.   If you want to move discussion from an issue to the
 mailing list, having them sent to dev makes replying easy.

 Plus, people who are subscribed to commits likely only want to see
 actual changes, not potential problems.


 On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
 sergiu.dumit...@gmail.com wrote:
  I was just about to send a similar mail. The issue is that it's
  configured to send emails to velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org, which I
  believe is not valid anymore. I don't know who can change this, since as
  a project administrator I can't change that. Probably something infra
  must handle (cc-ing).
 
  Infra: for the VELOCITY jira project, the notification scheme must be
  changed to send emails to dev@velocity.apache.org instead of the defunct
  velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org
 
  (or should that be comm...@velocity.apache.org?)
 
  On 05/30/2015 06:54 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
  I signed up for the commits mailing list, but as I was looking through
  the archives, I noticed that there's no JIRA change notifications sent
  to commit@, nor are they sent to dev@.  Shouldn't these be going to a
  mailing list?  How do you subscribe to JIRA changes?
 
  --
  Sergiu Dumitriu
  http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
 
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Re: general@velocity mailing list

2015-05-30 Thread Nathan Bubna
+1

On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Frederick N. Brier fnbr...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Sounds good to me :).


 On 05/30/2015 04:11 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

 And while we're at it, why have a general@apache mailing list?
 Something inherited from Jakarta?   It's not archived or publicly
 visible on nabble or mail-archive.com.   Users have a difficult enough
 time determining whether a posting should go to user@ and dev@.   I
 see nothing that differentiates between general@ and user@.

 I propose we remove the mailing list from our mailing lists page, and
 post a last message to general@ that we're shutting down general@ and
 switching existing subscribers to user@, and include instructions on
 how to unsubscribe from user@.  That's if we want to go opt-out.   Or
 go with opt-in, and post a last message to general@ that we're
 shutting down general@ and include instructions on how to subscribe to
 user@.   Opt-in is probably the better approach.  Then we ask infra to
 shut down the mailing list and optionally set up a redirect from
 general@ to user@.

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Recent JIRA issues (with patches) by me

2015-05-30 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Since I'm not certain who, if anyone, is notified of JIRA changes,
here's a list of the items I've been working on.

VELOCITY-864 Download and install Apache Rat task in preparation
target for ant rat
VELOCITY-863 Regression: #settableft-paren no longer valid grammar
VELOCITY-862 Rebuilding parser using javacc 4.2 loses Node import
VELOCITY-861 Improve parser modification and build documentation
VELOCITY-860 Fix Velocity 1.7.x, 1.6.x, 1.5 ant download dependency build script

Things I would like to see happen before a 1.8 release:

-- insure rat passes with an appropriate exclude list
-- fix tests [merging in Frederick's changes and/or Sergiu's changes]
-- compile natively under Java 1.7 [merging in Frederick's changes
and/or Sergiu's changes]
-- update dependencies [merging in Frederick's changes and/or Sergiu's changes]

I will slowly plod toward these goals but any additional help will be
appreciated.

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No JIRA changes sent to a mailing list?

2015-05-30 Thread Mike Kienenberger
I signed up for the commits mailing list, but as I was looking through
the archives, I noticed that there's no JIRA change notifications sent
to commit@, nor are they sent to dev@.  Shouldn't these be going to a
mailing list?  How do you subscribe to JIRA changes?

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general@velocity mailing list

2015-05-30 Thread Mike Kienenberger
And while we're at it, why have a general@apache mailing list?
Something inherited from Jakarta?   It's not archived or publicly
visible on nabble or mail-archive.com.   Users have a difficult enough
time determining whether a posting should go to user@ and dev@.   I
see nothing that differentiates between general@ and user@.

I propose we remove the mailing list from our mailing lists page, and
post a last message to general@ that we're shutting down general@ and
switching existing subscribers to user@, and include instructions on
how to unsubscribe from user@.  That's if we want to go opt-out.   Or
go with opt-in, and post a last message to general@ that we're
shutting down general@ and include instructions on how to subscribe to
user@.   Opt-in is probably the better approach.  Then we ask infra to
shut down the mailing list and optionally set up a redirect from
general@ to user@.

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Re: No JIRA changes sent to a mailing list?

2015-05-30 Thread Mike Kienenberger
I'd say dev.   If you want to move discussion from an issue to the
mailing list, having them sent to dev makes replying easy.

Plus, people who are subscribed to commits likely only want to see
actual changes, not potential problems.


On Sat, May 30, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
sergiu.dumit...@gmail.com wrote:
 I was just about to send a similar mail. The issue is that it's
 configured to send emails to velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org, which I
 believe is not valid anymore. I don't know who can change this, since as
 a project administrator I can't change that. Probably something infra
 must handle (cc-ing).

 Infra: for the VELOCITY jira project, the notification scheme must be
 changed to send emails to dev@velocity.apache.org instead of the defunct
 velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org

 (or should that be comm...@velocity.apache.org?)

 On 05/30/2015 06:54 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
 I signed up for the commits mailing list, but as I was looking through
 the archives, I noticed that there's no JIRA change notifications sent
 to commit@, nor are they sent to dev@.  Shouldn't these be going to a
 mailing list?  How do you subscribe to JIRA changes?

 --
 Sergiu Dumitriu
 http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

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Re: No JIRA changes sent to a mailing list?

2015-05-30 Thread Sergiu Dumitriu
I was just about to send a similar mail. The issue is that it's
configured to send emails to velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org, which I
believe is not valid anymore. I don't know who can change this, since as
a project administrator I can't change that. Probably something infra
must handle (cc-ing).

Infra: for the VELOCITY jira project, the notification scheme must be
changed to send emails to dev@velocity.apache.org instead of the defunct
velocity-...@jakarta.apache.org

(or should that be comm...@velocity.apache.org?)

On 05/30/2015 06:54 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:
 I signed up for the commits mailing list, but as I was looking through
 the archives, I noticed that there's no JIRA change notifications sent
 to commit@, nor are they sent to dev@.  Shouldn't these be going to a
 mailing list?  How do you subscribe to JIRA changes?

-- 
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

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Re: general@velocity mailing list

2015-05-30 Thread Frederick N. Brier

Sounds good to me :).

On 05/30/2015 04:11 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote:

And while we're at it, why have a general@apache mailing list?
Something inherited from Jakarta?   It's not archived or publicly
visible on nabble or mail-archive.com.   Users have a difficult enough
time determining whether a posting should go to user@ and dev@.   I
see nothing that differentiates between general@ and user@.

I propose we remove the mailing list from our mailing lists page, and
post a last message to general@ that we're shutting down general@ and
switching existing subscribers to user@, and include instructions on
how to unsubscribe from user@.  That's if we want to go opt-out.   Or
go with opt-in, and post a last message to general@ that we're
shutting down general@ and include instructions on how to subscribe to
user@.   Opt-in is probably the better approach.  Then we ask infra to
shut down the mailing list and optionally set up a redirect from
general@ to user@.

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