Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Jiri Jetmar
Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index with a
name that is already existing.

Possible solutions are :

- check if the index is already created
- delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit tests)
- Use each time a new name

What is the context of this myapp ?

Cheers,
jj

2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

 Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),

 I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded, even
 if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems that
 ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)

 Any ideas? Is it expected?


 Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
 [qi4j_index] already exists
 at

 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
 at

 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
 at

 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
 at

 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
 at

 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
 at

 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
 at

 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
 at

 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
 ... 1 more

 Cheers
 --
 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
 http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java



Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Jiri Jetmar
hmm, first time run ? Thats indeed strange..

ok, if you want I can take a look on the ES issue since I spend sometime on
this indexer..

cheers,
jj

2015-06-09 13:55 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

 Well, how can there be an existing Index the first time it is run?
 Remember, I am not using ES directly, only that the ES extension attaches
 itself to the EntityStateListener notification...

 Just now, I go another problem, so I suspect that I am missing some crucial
 setup/assembly part. Perhaps I just change to the RDF indexer instead...


 Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
 at

 org.qi4j.index.elasticsearch.ElasticSearchIndexer$Mixin.notifyChanges(ElasticSearchIndexer.java:105)
 at

 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.StateChangeNotificationConcern$1.commit(StateChangeNotificationConcern.java:44)
 at

 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern$ConcurrentCheckingEntityStoreUnitOfWork$1.commit(ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern.java:117)
 at

 org.qi4j.api.configuration.Configuration$ConfigurationMixin.initializeConfigurationInstance(Configuration.java:281)


 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index with a
  name that is already existing.
 
  Possible solutions are :
 
  - check if the index is already created
  - delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit tests)
  - Use each time a new name
 
  What is the context of this myapp ?
 
  Cheers,
  jj
 
  2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:
 
   Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),
  
   I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded,
  even
   if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems
 that
   ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)
  
   Any ideas? Is it expected?
  
  
   Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
   [qi4j_index] already exists
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
   at
  
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
   at
  
  
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
   at
  
  
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
   ... 1 more
  
   Cheers
   --
   Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
   http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
  
 



 --
 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
 http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java



Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
That second one is probably a consequence of the first problem, as the
client=null at passivation...

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:


 Well, how can there be an existing Index the first time it is run?
 Remember, I am not using ES directly, only that the ES extension attaches
 itself to the EntityStateListener notification...

 Just now, I go another problem, so I suspect that I am missing some
 crucial setup/assembly part. Perhaps I just change to the RDF indexer
 instead...


 Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
 at
 org.qi4j.index.elasticsearch.ElasticSearchIndexer$Mixin.notifyChanges(ElasticSearchIndexer.java:105)
 at
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.StateChangeNotificationConcern$1.commit(StateChangeNotificationConcern.java:44)
 at
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern$ConcurrentCheckingEntityStoreUnitOfWork$1.commit(ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern.java:117)
 at
 org.qi4j.api.configuration.Configuration$ConfigurationMixin.initializeConfigurationInstance(Configuration.java:281)


 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index with a
 name that is already existing.

 Possible solutions are :

 - check if the index is already created
 - delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit tests)
 - Use each time a new name

 What is the context of this myapp ?

 Cheers,
 jj

 2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

  Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),
 
  I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded,
 even
  if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems
 that
  ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)
 
  Any ideas? Is it expected?
 
 
  Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
  [qi4j_index] already exists
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
  ... 1 more
 
  Cheers
  --
  Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
  http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
 




 --
 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
 http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java




-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java


Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Well, how can there be an existing Index the first time it is run?
Remember, I am not using ES directly, only that the ES extension attaches
itself to the EntityStateListener notification...

Just now, I go another problem, so I suspect that I am missing some crucial
setup/assembly part. Perhaps I just change to the RDF indexer instead...


Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
at
org.qi4j.index.elasticsearch.ElasticSearchIndexer$Mixin.notifyChanges(ElasticSearchIndexer.java:105)
at
org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.StateChangeNotificationConcern$1.commit(StateChangeNotificationConcern.java:44)
at
org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern$ConcurrentCheckingEntityStoreUnitOfWork$1.commit(ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern.java:117)
at
org.qi4j.api.configuration.Configuration$ConfigurationMixin.initializeConfigurationInstance(Configuration.java:281)


On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index with a
 name that is already existing.

 Possible solutions are :

 - check if the index is already created
 - delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit tests)
 - Use each time a new name

 What is the context of this myapp ?

 Cheers,
 jj

 2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

  Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),
 
  I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded,
 even
  if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems that
  ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)
 
  Any ideas? Is it expected?
 
 
  Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
  [qi4j_index] already exists
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
  ... 1 more
 
  Cheers
  --
  Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
  http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
 




-- 
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http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java


[Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),

I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded, even
if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems that
ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)

Any ideas? Is it expected?


Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
[qi4j_index] already exists
at
org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
at
org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
at
org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
at
org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
at
org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
at
org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
at
java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
... 1 more

Cheers
-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java


Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Ok, the reason is found... The most typical of problems...

The Configuration object of the ES extension triggers the
StateChangeNotification back to the ElasticSearch extension, which isn't
ready to process it yet.

Was this the reason why we always need a Configuration Layer, and a Config
Module in Infra can't be made work?

Cheers

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:

 That second one is probably a consequence of the first problem, as the
 client=null at passivation...

 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org wrote:


 Well, how can there be an existing Index the first time it is run?
 Remember, I am not using ES directly, only that the ES extension attaches
 itself to the EntityStateListener notification...

 Just now, I go another problem, so I suspect that I am missing some
 crucial setup/assembly part. Perhaps I just change to the RDF indexer
 instead...


 Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
 at
 org.qi4j.index.elasticsearch.ElasticSearchIndexer$Mixin.notifyChanges(ElasticSearchIndexer.java:105)
 at
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.StateChangeNotificationConcern$1.commit(StateChangeNotificationConcern.java:44)
 at
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern$ConcurrentCheckingEntityStoreUnitOfWork$1.commit(ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern.java:117)
 at
 org.qi4j.api.configuration.Configuration$ConfigurationMixin.initializeConfigurationInstance(Configuration.java:281)


 On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index with a
 name that is already existing.

 Possible solutions are :

 - check if the index is already created
 - delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit tests)
 - Use each time a new name

 What is the context of this myapp ?

 Cheers,
 jj

 2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

  Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),
 
  I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is loaded,
 even
  if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it seems
 that
  ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)
 
  Any ideas? Is it expected?
 
 
  Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
  [qi4j_index] already exists
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
  at
 
 
 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
  at
 
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
  ... 1 more
 
  Cheers
  --
  Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
  http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
 




 --
 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
 http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java




 --
 Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
 http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java




-- 
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java


Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
Yeah, and that is why I was putting it in a Config MODULE inside Infra
Layer... But Wait!! There is MORE !!!

  a. ES Config is in the Config Module

  b. On manipulation of that Configuration Entity Composite, the
StateNotificationConcern will locate all visible StateChangeListeners and
call them.

  c. The ElasticSearchIndexer implements this and must either reside inside
the Storage Module, with Visibility.module, or if it has its own Indexing
Module (my case), the StateNotication will see it... BAM.

So!! Either Indexer need to be Visibility.module and inside the Storage
Module, OR the Configuration needs to be in its own Layer below.



On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
wrote:

 hmm.. I think it was because of the In-Memory EntityStore required for the
 configuration.. Thats the reason for the dedicated config module.. This
 chicken-egg issue..  at least when I remember correctly..



 2015-06-09 14:13 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:

  Ok, the reason is found... The most typical of problems...
 
  The Configuration object of the ES extension triggers the
  StateChangeNotification back to the ElasticSearch extension, which isn't
  ready to process it yet.
 
  Was this the reason why we always need a Configuration Layer, and a
 Config
  Module in Infra can't be made work?
 
  Cheers
 
  On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 8:01 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org
 wrote:
 
   That second one is probably a consequence of the first problem, as the
   client=null at passivation...
  
   On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:55 PM, Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org
  wrote:
  
  
   Well, how can there be an existing Index the first time it is run?
   Remember, I am not using ES directly, only that the ES extension
  attaches
   itself to the EntityStateListener notification...
  
   Just now, I go another problem, so I suspect that I am missing some
   crucial setup/assembly part. Perhaps I just change to the RDF indexer
   instead...
  
  
   Caused by: java.lang.NullPointerException
   at
  
 
 org.qi4j.index.elasticsearch.ElasticSearchIndexer$Mixin.notifyChanges(ElasticSearchIndexer.java:105)
   at
  
 
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.StateChangeNotificationConcern$1.commit(StateChangeNotificationConcern.java:44)
   at
  
 
 org.qi4j.spi.entitystore.ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern$ConcurrentCheckingEntityStoreUnitOfWork$1.commit(ConcurrentModificationCheckConcern.java:117)
   at
  
 
 org.qi4j.api.configuration.Configuration$ConfigurationMixin.initializeConfigurationInstance(Configuration.java:281)
  
  
   On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 7:42 PM, Jiri Jetmar juergen.jet...@gmail.com
 
   wrote:
  
   Just a guess - it looks like that you are trying to create a index
  with a
   name that is already existing.
  
   Possible solutions are :
  
   - check if the index is already created
   - delete the file-based storage (this approach is used in the unit
  tests)
   - Use each time a new name
  
   What is the context of this myapp ?
  
   Cheers,
   jj
  
   2015-06-09 13:23 GMT+02:00 Niclas Hedhman nic...@hedhman.org:
  
Paul (since you wrote this once upon a time),
   
I get an exception every time the Elastic Search Extension is
 loaded,
   even
if I wipe the $HOME/Library/Application Support/myapp where it
 seems
   that
ES extension is using (oh, yeah I am using the file system store)
   
Any ideas? Is it expected?
   
   
Caused by: org.elasticsearch.indices.IndexAlreadyExistsException:
[qi4j_index] already exists
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validateIndexName(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:164)
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.validate(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:539)
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService.access$100(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:89)
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.metadata.MetaDataCreateIndexService$2.execute(MetaDataCreateIndexService.java:229)
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.cluster.service.InternalClusterService$UpdateTask.run(InternalClusterService.java:328)
at
   
   
  
 
 org.elasticsearch.common.util.concurrent.PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor$TieBreakingPrioritizedRunnable.run(PrioritizedEsThreadPoolExecutor.java:153)
at
   
   
  
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor.runWorker(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:1142)
at
   
   
  
 
 java.util.concurrent.ThreadPoolExecutor$Worker.run(ThreadPoolExecutor.java:617)
... 1 more
   
Cheers
--
Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
   
  
  
  
  
   --
   Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
   http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
  
  
  
  
   --
   Niclas Hedhman, Software Developer
   http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java
  
 
 
 
  --
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Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Stanislav Muhametsin

On 9.6.2015 15:44, Niclas Hedhman wrote:

Yeah, and that is why I was putting it in a Config MODULE inside Infra
Layer... But Wait!! There is MORE !!!

   a. ES Config is in the Config Module

   b. On manipulation of that Configuration Entity Composite, the
StateNotificationConcern will locate all visible StateChangeListeners and
call them.

   c. The ElasticSearchIndexer implements this and must either reside inside
the Storage Module, with Visibility.module, or if it has its own Indexing
Module (my case), the StateNotication will see it... BAM.

So!! Either Indexer need to be Visibility.module and inside the Storage
Module, OR the Configuration needs to be in its own Layer below.



Slightly off-topic and not helpful to the actual problem solving:

I remember stumbling upon this issue some years ago when I was still 
actively using Java (and Qi4j).
I think the underlying problem is that Qi4j is coupling too tightly the 
concepts of 'entity' and 'configuration composite'.
Thus basically forcing a pattern of having separate configuration layer 
for any serious and big application.
This is not necessarily a bad idea in itself, a good application design 
usually tends to put configuration stuff into its own, usually lowermost 
layer.


Problem is, as your application becomes more complex to assemble (e.g. 
the test case you are running), issues like this start to arise and are 
very problematic to debug.
IMO for Qi4j/Zest 3.0, the whole configuration aspect should be 
revisited and re-thought properly.
Especially new users are guaranteed to stumble on problems like this, 
thus making adaptation of Qi4j/Zest really slow and troublesome.


Re: [Elastic Search] exception on startup

2015-06-09 Thread Niclas Hedhman
The concept of having Configuration as Entities was a great thing, IMHO,
and we shouldn't toss that out because of this issue at the configuration
of the stuff that handles the configuration-part.

But, maybe a separate mechanism should be used specifically for
EntityStores and Indexing subsystems, since they are very very unlikely to
be modified in the same manner.

Let's keep this open...

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Paul Merlin p...@nosphere.org wrote:

 Hey gang,

 Yes that's an assembly issue.

 Every now an then I myself fight with this.
 This is very hard for newcomers, and very frustrating for every others ;)
 Maybe Stan is right and we should do something about it in 3.

 Cheers

 /Paul





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http://zest.apache.org - New Energy for Java