Re: Intent to implement: Visual Viewport API
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 4:22 AM, Michael de Boer wrote: > About the desktop perspective: is pinch-to-zoom a completely separate thing > from full-page-zoom as can be controlled right now with Ctrl+ and Ctrl- using > the > keyboard? Yes. The two have different behaviours (as Boris mentioned, one reflows the page, one does not). > If that’s the case, I can see synchronization issues between the two features > when they’re both in use. Could you elaborate? As far as I'm aware, other browsers like Chrome and Safari support both at the same time on desktop. > My perception is that pinch-to-zoom is really full-page-zoom, but using the > pointer coordinates as focal point instead of [0,0] and step-less zooming > behaviour, instead of clamping to predefined steps. Currently, pinch gestures on a trackpad are hooked up to perform full-page zooming on desktop. This is a temporary measure until pinch zooming is implemented on desktop. Once pinch zooming is implemented on desktop, pinch gestures will be hooked up to perform that. Thanks, Botond ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to implement and ship: CSS prefers-reduced-motion media feature for Windows and MacOSX
As far as I can tell the specification does not indicate any privacy concerns; even though this exposes a system preference. I'd request that if Resist Fingerprinting is enabled; the browser behaves as if the user has not set any preference. -tom On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 2:34 AM, Hiroyuki Ikezoe wrote: > Summary: By using CSS prefers-reduced-motion media feature, web developers > can provide contents depending on a system setting that users want > *motion-less* content. A WebKit blog post [1] might be useful to know > this feature in more detail. > > Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1365045 for Windows > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475462 for Mac OSX > > Link to standard: > https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-5/#prefers-reduced-motion > > Platform coverage: Windows and MacOSX > Though I don't have a plan for Android at this moment , I maybe do it > soonish. > > Estimated release: For Windows in Firefox 63, for MacOSX it might be > delayed in Firefox 64 > > Preference behind which this will be implemented: None > > Is this feature enabled by default in sandboxed iframes? Yes > > If allowed, does it preserve the current invariants in terms of what > sandboxed iframes can do? I believe so > > DevTools bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1477920 > > Do other browser engines implement this? > > WebKit already shipped this feature on the last year. > > Neither Chrome and Edge hasn't progressed yet. > https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=722548 > https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/ > platform/issues/17506002/ > > web-platform-tests: None > This feature is tied to a system setting, so, as far as I can tell, we > can't write wpt. > WebKit has test cases on their tree controlled by something like our > SpecialPowers. We will have reftests controlled by a UI pref. > > Secure contexts: Yes > > [1] https://webkit.org/blog/7551/responsive-design-for-motion/ > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to implement: Visual Viewport API
On 7/24/18 4:22 AM, Michael de Boer wrote: About the desktop perspective: is pinch-to-zoom a completely separate thing from full-page-zoom as can be controlled right now with Ctrl+ and Ctrl- using the keyboard? Yes. As a simple example, full-page-zoom does relayout (e.g. can change where linebreaks happen). pinch-to-zoom does not do relayout, as far as I know. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to implement and ship: CSS prefers-reduced-motion media feature for Windows and MacOSX
On 7/24/18 3:34 AM, Hiroyuki Ikezoe wrote: Secure contexts: Yes Why? -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to implement: Visual Viewport API
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018, at 12:22 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 7/23/18 7:36 PM, Tanushree Podder wrote: > > Secure contexts: Yes > > I'm not sure what this line means here. I updated the intent to implement template at https://wiki.mozilla.org/ExposureGuidelines#Intent_to_implement to make it clearer what this is asking. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to implement: Visual Viewport API
> On 24 Jul 2018, at 01:36, Tanushree Podder wrote: > > Summary: Mobile web pages contain two viewports, the layout viewport and > the visual viewport. The layout viewport consists of all the page contents > and is specified by the meta-viewport tag. The visual viewport is the > actual visible portion of the page on the screen excluding on-screen > keyboards, areas outside of a pinch-zoom area or any other on-screen > artifact that does not scale with the dimensions of the page. The purpose > of the Visual Viewport API is to allow web developers to explicitly query > the properties of the visual viewport. > > Web developers can use this API in situations where they need to position > web page elements to remain visible on the screen regardless of the visible > portion of the web page. For example, if an image needs to be visible > regardless of the pinch-zoom level of the device, it can be positioned > relative to what’s shown on the screen using methods of the Visual Viewport > API. About the desktop perspective: is pinch-to-zoom a completely separate thing from full-page-zoom as can be controlled right now with Ctrl+ and Ctrl- using the keyboard? If that’s the case, I can see synchronization issues between the two features when they’re both in use. My perception is that pinch-to-zoom is really full-page-zoom, but using the pointer coordinates as focal point instead of [0,0] and step-less zooming behaviour, instead of clamping to predefined steps. If that’s not the case, I’d say the new API seems usable on desktop already once the page has been zoomed in. Thanks, Mike. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Intent to implement and ship: CSS prefers-reduced-motion media feature for Windows and MacOSX
Summary: By using CSS prefers-reduced-motion media feature, web developers can provide contents depending on a system setting that users want *motion-less* content. A WebKit blog post [1] might be useful to know this feature in more detail. Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1365045 for Windows https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1475462 for Mac OSX Link to standard: https://drafts.csswg.org/mediaqueries-5/#prefers-reduced-motion Platform coverage: Windows and MacOSX Though I don't have a plan for Android at this moment , I maybe do it soonish. Estimated release: For Windows in Firefox 63, for MacOSX it might be delayed in Firefox 64 Preference behind which this will be implemented: None Is this feature enabled by default in sandboxed iframes? Yes If allowed, does it preserve the current invariants in terms of what sandboxed iframes can do? I believe so DevTools bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1477920 Do other browser engines implement this? WebKit already shipped this feature on the last year. Neither Chrome and Edge hasn't progressed yet. https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=722548 https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/platform/issues/17506002/ web-platform-tests: None This feature is tied to a system setting, so, as far as I can tell, we can't write wpt. WebKit has test cases on their tree controlled by something like our SpecialPowers. We will have reftests controlled by a UI pref. Secure contexts: Yes [1] https://webkit.org/blog/7551/responsive-design-for-motion/ ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
