Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)
So tables and flexbox will be fixed in 41 too? Congratulations on nearing the end of such a long and difficult project! Rob -- oIo otoeololo oyooouo otohoaoto oaonoyooonoeo owohooo oioso oaonogoroyo owoiotoho oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro owoiololo oboeo osouobojoeocoto otooo ojouodogomoeonoto.o oAogoaoiono,o oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso otooo oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro,o o‘oRoaocoao,o’o oioso oaonosowoeoroaoboloeo otooo otohoeo ocooouoroto.o oAonodo oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso,o o‘oYooouo ofolo!o’o owoiololo oboeo oiono odoaonogoeoro ooofo otohoeo ofoioroeo ooofo ohoeololo. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)
On 1/7/15 11:21, Robert O'Callahan wrote: So tables and flexbox will be fixed in 41 too? Both of them are largely working in 41 at this point; I believe they're usable for most common use-cases. For tables, the main limitation is that caption is not yet placed correctly; that should follow in 42 (or possibly 41 if we decide it's upliftable). dholbert knows the status of flexbox better than I do. JK Congratulations on nearing the end of such a long and difficult project! Rob -- oIo otoeololo oyooouo otohoaoto oaonoyooonoeo owohooo oioso oaonogoroyo owoiotoho oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro owoiololo oboeo osouobojoeocoto otooo ojouodogomoeonoto.o oAogoaoiono,o oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso otooo oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro,o o‘oRoaocoao,o’o oioso oaonosowoeoroaoboloeo otooo otohoeo ocooouoroto.o oAonodo oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso,o o‘oYooouo ofolo!o’o owoiololo oboeo oiono odoaonogoeoro ooofo otohoeo ofoioroeo ooofo ohoeololo. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)
On 1/7/15 13:06, Sebastian Zartner wrote: CSS Logical Properties Level 1 doesn't even in WD status yet. Therefore I assume everything in there can still change fundamentally. So are you sure logical properties should be shipped already? Could the writing mode features perhaps be shipped independently from the logical properties? The writing-mode features are much less useful/usable without the support of logical properties. E.g. the default HTML and UA stylesheets require the use of logical properties to get reasonable rendering behavior in vertical writing modes for many elements. Author stylesheets and libraries that want to be usable with both horizontal and vertical modes will similarly need to use the logical properties. (Note that Blink, for example, has been shipping prefixed logical properties along with its prefixed writing-mode implementation for some time. I don't think shipping one without the other is really workable; and given that prefixing is now out of fashion, and that the WG seems to be happy with the properties in the current ED, I think it's appropriate for us to move forward. I'd expect the browsers that are currently shipping prefixed versions based on older naming ideas will migrate to the currently-specified names when they unprefix their implementations.) JK This is not valuing the status of the implementation, just a note about the status of the logical properties spec. Sebastian ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)
CSS Logical Properties Level 1 doesn't even in WD status yet. Therefore I assume everything in there can still change fundamentally. So are you sure logical properties should be shipped already? Could the writing mode features perhaps be shipped independently from the logical properties? This is not valuing the status of the implementation, just a note about the status of the logical properties spec. Sebastian On 1 July 2015 at 12:30, Jonathan Kew jfkth...@gmail.com wrote: On 1/7/15 11:21, Robert O'Callahan wrote: So tables and flexbox will be fixed in 41 too? Both of them are largely working in 41 at this point; I believe they're usable for most common use-cases. For tables, the main limitation is that caption is not yet placed correctly; that should follow in 42 (or possibly 41 if we decide it's upliftable). dholbert knows the status of flexbox better than I do. JK Congratulations on nearing the end of such a long and difficult project! Rob -- oIo otoeololo oyooouo otohoaoto oaonoyooonoeo owohooo oioso oaonogoroyo owoiotoho oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro owoiololo oboeo osouobojoeocoto otooo ojouodogomoeonoto.o oAogoaoiono,o oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso otooo oao oboroootohoeoro oooro osoiosotoeoro,o o‘oRoaocoao,o’o oioso oaonosowoeoroaoboloeo otooo otohoeo ocooouoroto.o oAonodo oaonoyooonoeo owohooo osoaoyoso,o o‘oYooouo ofolo!o’o owoiololo oboeo oiono odoaonogoeoro ooofo otohoeo ofoioroeo ooofo ohoeololo. ___ firefox-dev mailing list firefox-...@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/firefox-dev ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Intent to ship: vertical text support (CSS writing-mode and related properties)
Following up on the message quoted below (Intent to ship on pre-release channels), we are now planning to ship support for CSS writing-mode, text-orientation, and related logical-direction properties (things like block-size and inline-size, margin-block-start, etc) enabled by default on all channels. The RELEASE_BUILD condition that has been keeping these features disabled for release builds was removed in bug 1138384, which landed for Gecko 41. So unless we have reason to revert this during the Aurora/Beta period, we expect these features to ship in Firefox 41. Relevant specifications: http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-writing-modes-3/ http://dev.w3.org/csswg/css-logical-props/ JK On 2/3/15 12:59, Jonathan Kew wrote: See [1] for additional background on this feature. We are aiming to enable support for CSS writing-mode and related features (i.e. vertical text support) in Gecko 39.[2] This will be enabled behind an #ifndef RELEASE_BUILD condition, so that for the time being, these features will be available by default in developer builds, but not in the release version. Once more key parts of CSS layout have been adapted to support vertical mode, we'll remove the condition and enable writing-mode by default on release as well as dev channels.[3] cc'ing firefox-dev and dev-gaia lists, particularly to make people aware that while we encourage experimentation with the new properties (please test and file bugs!), you should not attempt to use them in front-end code that will ship to release channels where writing-mode remains disabled-by-default for now. JK [1] https://www.mail-archive.com/dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org/msg12343.html [2] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1099032 [3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138384 ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
