Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
On 5/29/13 9:05 PM, Brad Lassey wrote: On 5/29/13 11:42 PM, Anthony Jones wrote: What is the attendance like from the Asia-Pacific region? I can't recall anyone from Asia-Pacific who is a regular attendee. It is extremely difficult to (expect anyone to, or otherwise) regularly attend a meeting that is held at 3am local time. That's why the notes are great for catching up on what was discussed, which is what I do whenever I'm in that region. Just my 2 cents, -Gary ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
On 5/31/2013 3:25 AM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: 2. Work on summarizing discussions or vague items in the agenda so that the notes can be understood by people who don't attend the meeting Please let me know how the notes shape up. As someone who can't attend most meetings due to inconvenient time zones, I greatly appreciate good meeting notes, and I regularly try to read them. Thanks for taking charge of this! Cheers, Chris Pearce. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
On 5/29/13 11:42 PM, Anthony Jones wrote: What is the attendance like from the Asia-Pacific region? I can't recall anyone from Asia-Pacific who is a regular attendee. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
- Original Message - On 30/05/13 04:55, Mike Hommey wrote: As someone that will soon be in UTC+9, and taking on the occasion to represent all the people in that timezone and surroundings, a couple hours before 3am is not very a great time to decide whether I'd attend or not. That being said, I haven't attended much so far. OTOH, if the meeting value is increasing which it looks like it will, i might want to. I don't know if 3am is attractive enough, though. What is the attendance like from the Asia-Pacific region? I think the answer is low to none. This is specifically why I will do #2 below. 2. Work on summarizing discussions or vague items in the agenda so that the notes can be understood by people who don't attend the meeting Please let me know how the notes shape up. Lawrence ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 09:29:46PM -0700, Lawrence Mandel wrote: I would also prefer an agenda that is set before the meeting and need to discuss this with those who will be contributing to the agenda. I think a day in advance might be pushing it given when I see most Mozilla meeting agendas take shape. I would be happy with a fairly solid agenda a couple of hours in advance of the meeting. Would that be enough time to let you decide if you want to attend? As someone that will soon be in UTC+9, and taking on the occasion to represent all the people in that timezone and surroundings, a couple hours before 3am is not very a great time to decide whether I'd attend or not. That being said, I haven't attended much so far. OTOH, if the meeting value is increasing which it looks like it will, i might want to. I don't know if 3am is attractive enough, though. Mike ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
tl;dr The platform meeting will revert to focus on engineering teams as of next week. We discussed the platform meeting's use during today's platform meeting. The consensus of the people who attended the meeting is that the platform meeting is useful and should be continued. Here is my summary of the key points from the discussion. - releng and relman both find this a useful venue to disseminate information - People like the team status updates - suggestion to hear from more of the technical teams - Useful venue for flagging topics on mailing lists - summaries of any discussion should be posted back to the list - Good opportunity to discuss issues with the technical teams - Useful for raising awareness and finding owners for stability, orange factor bugs - This meeting is a forcing function for the activities listed above Specific suggestions: - a concise summary of this meeting or decisions should be posted to dev-planning or a blog post - revert the meeting agenda back to focus on technical teams (the meeting changed in Oct 2012) not products - we have the product meeting for product discussions - provide a section in the agenda for others to ask questions of individual teams Based on this feedback... I will take a stab at defining the purpose of the meeting as: A weekly time for engineering teams to share information with and ask questions of one another. I will make the following changes, effective next week: 1. Modify the agenda to focus on engineering teams and activities. 2. Work on summarizing discussions or vague items in the agenda so that the notes can be understood by people who don't attend the meeting In support of these changes, I will speak with as many engineering team managers as possible before next week in an attempt to bring the content inline with what is desired. Of course, this is a work in progress. This being your meeting, do these changes make sense to you? Please share your suggestions either by replying to the list or to me individually. Thanks for reading. Lawrence ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Platform meeting changes effective June 2013
- Original Message - I'd really like to see the agenda for this meeting to be finalized a day or so in advance so that I can decide whether what's going to be discussed in the meeting interests me or not. Do you think doing that would make sense? I would also prefer an agenda that is set before the meeting and need to discuss this with those who will be contributing to the agenda. I think a day in advance might be pushing it given when I see most Mozilla meeting agendas take shape. I would be happy with a fairly solid agenda a couple of hours in advance of the meeting. Would that be enough time to let you decide if you want to attend? Lawrence Cheers, Ehsan On 2013-05-28 5:10 PM, Lawrence Mandel wrote: tl;dr The platform meeting will revert to focus on engineering teams as of next week. We discussed the platform meeting's use during today's platform meeting. The consensus of the people who attended the meeting is that the platform meeting is useful and should be continued. Here is my summary of the key points from the discussion. - releng and relman both find this a useful venue to disseminate information - People like the team status updates - suggestion to hear from more of the technical teams - Useful venue for flagging topics on mailing lists - summaries of any discussion should be posted back to the list - Good opportunity to discuss issues with the technical teams - Useful for raising awareness and finding owners for stability, orange factor bugs - This meeting is a forcing function for the activities listed above Specific suggestions: - a concise summary of this meeting or decisions should be posted to dev-planning or a blog post - revert the meeting agenda back to focus on technical teams (the meeting changed in Oct 2012) not products - we have the product meeting for product discussions - provide a section in the agenda for others to ask questions of individual teams Based on this feedback... I will take a stab at defining the purpose of the meeting as: A weekly time for engineering teams to share information with and ask questions of one another. I will make the following changes, effective next week: 1. Modify the agenda to focus on engineering teams and activities. 2. Work on summarizing discussions or vague items in the agenda so that the notes can be understood by people who don't attend the meeting In support of these changes, I will speak with as many engineering team managers as possible before next week in an attempt to bring the content inline with what is desired. Of course, this is a work in progress. This being your meeting, do these changes make sense to you? Please share your suggestions either by replying to the list or to me individually. Thanks for reading. Lawrence ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
