Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group
I think the reason not to formally object is that it leads to expenditure of both effort and political capital in a way that seems unlikely to change the result. It's an expenditure of effort because the goal is that the AC operate by consensus, so the initial result of formal objections is always discussions about what sort of compromise would allow objectors to withdraw their objections. And given the number of current supporters of the work, I think any director's decision that happens if there isn't consensus would likely be in favor of chartering the work. -David On Thursday 2019-08-29 13:09 -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I tend to agree with you. Is there a reason not to formally object? > > On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:30 PM L. David Baron wrote: > > > The W3C is proposing a new charter for: > > > > Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group > > https://www.w3.org/2019/08/did-wg-charter.html > > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/.html > > > > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through > > this Saturday, August 31. > > > > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should > > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should > > support or oppose it. > > > > > > I'm pretty concerned that this group isn't a good use of W3C's > > resources, and that the promoters of this work and related areas of > > work have convinced various parties (e.g., government agencies like > > [1]) that this work is valuable, partly through the use of the W3C's > > reputation to promote this work. > > > > (I also feel like, while it's called decentralized, in practice it > > seems to require more centralization than the Web, which allows > > anyone to register a domain and then mint URLs. I'm also skeptical > > of the privacy claims made in the groups charter.) > > > > That said, I think it's probably going to happen anyway no matter > > what we say, so I'm not sure what, if anything, to say in the > > review. I'd probably be inclined to explicitly abstain from the > > review and add brief comments to that abstention. > > > > -David > > > > [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/0013.html > > > > -- > > 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 > > 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 > > Before I built a wall I'd ask to know > > What I was walling in or walling out, > > And to whom I was like to give offense. > >- Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) > > ___ > > dev-platform mailing list > > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > > > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform -- 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group
I tend to agree with you. Is there a reason not to formally object? On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 3:30 PM L. David Baron wrote: > The W3C is proposing a new charter for: > > Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group > https://www.w3.org/2019/08/did-wg-charter.html > https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/.html > > Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through > this Saturday, August 31. > > Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should > say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should > support or oppose it. > > > I'm pretty concerned that this group isn't a good use of W3C's > resources, and that the promoters of this work and related areas of > work have convinced various parties (e.g., government agencies like > [1]) that this work is valuable, partly through the use of the W3C's > reputation to promote this work. > > (I also feel like, while it's called decentralized, in practice it > seems to require more centralization than the Web, which allows > anyone to register a domain and then mint URLs. I'm also skeptical > of the privacy claims made in the groups charter.) > > That said, I think it's probably going to happen anyway no matter > what we say, so I'm not sure what, if anything, to say in the > review. I'd probably be inclined to explicitly abstain from the > review and add brief comments to that abstention. > > -David > > [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/0013.html > > -- > 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 > 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 > Before I built a wall I'd ask to know > What I was walling in or walling out, > And to whom I was like to give offense. >- Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) > ___ > dev-platform mailing list > dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org > https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform > ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Proposed W3C Charter: Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group
The W3C is proposing a new charter for: Decentralized Identifier (DID) Working Group https://www.w3.org/2019/08/did-wg-charter.html https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/.html Mozilla has the opportunity to send comments or objections through this Saturday, August 31. Please reply to this thread if you think there's something we should say as part of this charter review, or if you think we should support or oppose it. I'm pretty concerned that this group isn't a good use of W3C's resources, and that the promoters of this work and related areas of work have convinced various parties (e.g., government agencies like [1]) that this work is valuable, partly through the use of the W3C's reputation to promote this work. (I also feel like, while it's called decentralized, in practice it seems to require more centralization than the Web, which allows anyone to register a domain and then mint URLs. I'm also skeptical of the privacy claims made in the groups charter.) That said, I think it's probably going to happen anyway no matter what we say, so I'm not sure what, if anything, to say in the review. I'd probably be inclined to explicitly abstain from the review and add brief comments to that abstention. -David [1] https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-new-work/2019Aug/0013.html -- 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
