W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendation (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): http://www.w3.org/TR/cors/ Cross-Origin Resource Sharing (CORS) There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until January 14. If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition to the specification, please say so in this thread. (I'd note, however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues for the first time at this stage.) -David -- 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
I’ve been aware of these proposals. Honestly, there’s not a lot of meat in the performance timeline proposal and one of the editors doesn’t appear to be actively involved anymore. IMO, this is implementation detail for describing the data structures used by a timeline “entry”. I’m not sure how important a cross platform specification is, but would entertain the idea if there were good uses for it. ~ rob On Nov 26, 2013, at 05:56 , Till Schneidereit t...@tillschneidereit.net wrote: I don't know how well (or if at all) the current push for performance devtools is coordinated with these proposals, but it would certainly be worth looking into that. CCing Axel Kratel. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 11/25/13 7:07 PM, L. David Baron wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/performance-timeline/ Performance Timeline http://www.w3.org/TR/user-timing/ User Timing Have we had anyone at all review these specs? My past experience with that working group and set of editors doesn't make me sanguine about them producing specs that can actually be implemented without reverse-engineering IE or Chrome If we _haven't_ had someone look at these before, we should do that now. And we probably need someone whose job description includes sanity-checking the stuff this working group produces. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
I'll take a closer look at it. Will be interesting to see how this fits in with what we're planning, but so far, we didn't plan on taking it into account. - Original Message - From: Rob Campbell rcampb...@mozilla.com To: Till Schneidereit t...@tillschneidereit.net Cc: Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu, Axel Kratel akra...@mozilla.com, dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 8:51:32 AM Subject: Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD I’ve been aware of these proposals. Honestly, there’s not a lot of meat in the performance timeline proposal and one of the editors doesn’t appear to be actively involved anymore. IMO, this is implementation detail for describing the data structures used by a timeline “entry”. I’m not sure how important a cross platform specification is, but would entertain the idea if there were good uses for it. ~ rob On Nov 26, 2013, at 05:56 , Till Schneidereit t...@tillschneidereit.net wrote: I don't know how well (or if at all) the current push for performance devtools is coordinated with these proposals, but it would certainly be worth looking into that. CCing Axel Kratel. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 11/25/13 7:07 PM, L. David Baron wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/performance-timeline/ Performance Timeline http://www.w3.org/TR/user-timing/ User Timing Have we had anyone at all review these specs? My past experience with that working group and set of editors doesn't make me sanguine about them producing specs that can actually be implemented without reverse-engineering IE or Chrome If we _haven't_ had someone look at these before, we should do that now. And we probably need someone whose job description includes sanity-checking the stuff this working group produces. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
On 11/27/13 11:51 AM, Rob Campbell wrote: IMO, this is implementation detail for describing the data structures used by a timeline “entry” There are specs that expose these entries too, so this is not implementation detail but something we'll need to end up implementing when Facebook and company start using it for telemetry. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
I don't know how well (or if at all) the current push for performance devtools is coordinated with these proposals, but it would certainly be worth looking into that. CCing Axel Kratel. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 12:31 AM, Boris Zbarsky bzbar...@mit.edu wrote: On 11/25/13 7:07 PM, L. David Baron wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/performance-timeline/ Performance Timeline http://www.w3.org/TR/user-timing/ User Timing Have we had anyone at all review these specs? My past experience with that working group and set of editors doesn't make me sanguine about them producing specs that can actually be implemented without reverse-engineering IE or Chrome If we _haven't_ had someone look at these before, we should do that now. And we probably need someone whose job description includes sanity-checking the stuff this working group produces. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
W3C recently published the following proposed recommendations (the stage before W3C's final stage, Recommendation): http://www.w3.org/TR/performance-timeline/ Performance Timeline http://www.w3.org/TR/user-timing/ User Timing http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld/ JSON-LD 1.0: A JSON-based Serialization for Linked Data http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-api/ JSON-LD 1.0 Processing Algorithms and API There's a call for review to W3C member companies (of which Mozilla is one) open until November 28 (for the first two) and December 5 (for the later two). If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the review, or if you think Mozilla should voice support or opposition to the specification, please say so in this thread. (I'd note, however, that there have been many previous opportunities to make comments, so it's somewhat bad form to bring up fundamental issues for the first time at this stage.) -David -- 턞 L. David Baron http://dbaron.org/ 턂 턢 Mozilla https://www.mozilla.org/ 턂 Before I built a wall I'd ask to know What I was walling in or walling out, And to whom I was like to give offense. - Robert Frost, Mending Wall (1914) signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
Re: W3C Proposed Recommendations: Performance Timeline, User Timing, JSON-LD
On 11/25/13 7:07 PM, L. David Baron wrote: http://www.w3.org/TR/performance-timeline/ Performance Timeline http://www.w3.org/TR/user-timing/ User Timing Have we had anyone at all review these specs? My past experience with that working group and set of editors doesn't make me sanguine about them producing specs that can actually be implemented without reverse-engineering IE or Chrome If we _haven't_ had someone look at these before, we should do that now. And we probably need someone whose job description includes sanity-checking the stuff this working group produces. -Boris ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform
