Re: Permanently store this exception selected by default

2010-06-06 Thread aerowolf

File a bug.  (If we're going to annoy the users every time they first encounter 
a security exception, we might as well go whole-hog and do it every time they 
encounter a security exception.)

-Kyle H, the embittered

On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 7:21 PM, TEO Tse Chin teotsec...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

I encountered an expired cert for an IMAP (STARTTLS) server from an
ISP.  While I've followed up with the ISP about the expired cert,
there was something about Thunderbird's behavior that caught my
attention.

In the Add Security Exception dialog box, the checkbox for
Permanently store this exception was checked by default.  Given
users' tendency to click-through security warnings, would it not
perhaps be better for that box to be UNchecked by default?

That way they'll get a warning each time, and more likely to go bug
their service provider to keep their certs up to date.

Tse Chin
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How does Firefox do kerberos single sign on

2010-06-06 Thread Christian Schneider
I am trying to do single sign on using kerberos like Firefox does with
spnego. I am using the Java GSS API and run into the problem with the
allowtgtsessionkey regsitry on Windows 2003 (Like described on
http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/docs/guide/security/jgss/tutorials/Troubleshooting.html).

Our security does not like changing the registry key and allowing
access to the session key. So I wonder how Firefox solved this
problem. On our Systems Firefox works without changing the registry
key.

Could you explaing what steps are done in Firefox to acquire a service
ticket?

Best regards

Christian
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Re: Permanently store this exception selected by default

2010-06-06 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010-06-04 19:21 PDT, TEO Tse Chin wrote:

 I encountered an expired cert for an IMAP (STARTTLS) server from an
 ISP.  While I've followed up with the ISP about the expired cert,
 there was something about Thunderbird's behavior that caught my
 attention.
 
 In the Add Security Exception dialog box, the checkbox for
 Permanently store this exception was checked by default.  Given
 users' tendency to click-through security warnings, would it not
 perhaps be better for that box to be UNchecked by default?

No.  This was deliberate.  Users' tendency to click through without reading
the warning/error first is a direct function of the frequency with which the
user experiences the error.  It's that frequency that is the enemy.
The idea is that the way to get users to pay attention to errors is to make
them infrequent.  Showing the user the SAME error over and over is the worst
thing to do in terms of conditioning him to ignore all similar errors.

So, we did what we could to minimize the frequency.

 That way they'll get a warning each time, and more likely to go bug
 their service provider to keep their certs up to date.

Actually, they're more likely to ignore it.

 Tse Chin
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Re: Permanently store this exception selected by default

2010-06-06 Thread Nelson B Bolyard
On 2010-06-06 11:22 PDT, aerow...@gmail.com wrote:
 File a bug.  

No, don't.  It would be a duplicate.  Find the bug already on file.
It's probably already resolved WONTFIX.

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Re: Permanently store this exception selected by default

2010-06-06 Thread Kurt Seifried
Sorry to reply out of order

 That way they'll get a warning each time, and more likely to go bug
 their service provider to keep their certs up to date.

 Tse Chin

Even as a technical user I have a hard time finding out whom to
contact at a site and how to convince them to get a properly signed
certificate (webmaster@ is usually clueless). If they can't be
bothered to google free ssl or keep them up to date chances are they
won't fix a self signed certificate or an expired certificate anytime
soon. As much as I dislike this interface change I agree with it.

-Kurt
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Re: Generation of key pair and CSR

2010-06-06 Thread james07

Hi,

I would like to create a plug-in for Firefox that, when invoked, generates a
new key in the Firefox key/certificate store. Is it possible to generate a
new keypair in using NSS from the plug-in, or do I need to somehow call
crypto.generateCRMF() via javascript from the plug-in?

Thanks in advance,
James



Subrata Mazumdar-2 wrote:
 
 
 
 Michael Ströder wrote:
 Subrata Mazumdar wrote:

 There is a new version of KeyManager  available  that supports 
 SeaMonkey.

 I'll give it a try.

 What I'm really missing are some simple functions like exporting a 
 cert received in an e-mail S/MIME signature. Things that are really 
 easy with Outlook but with Mozilla-based MUAs I had to use openssl 
 smime to extract the certs.

 Ciao, Michael.
 Yes, KeyManager supports exporting of any certificate in your Cert-DB 
 and importing of temporary certs as permanent cert.
 If the cert is in your CertDB (either temporarily or permanently) and 
 you can view it using Certificate Viewer of PSM, then you can either 
 export the cert or import it permanently. Use the preference window to 
 enable the exporting of certificate option - by default it is disabled.
 
 BTW, I have noticed that Mozilla PSM in FF3 (Beta) added support for  
 exporting any  certificates in your CertDB.
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