Re: Removal of generateCRMFRequest

2013-04-01 Thread Anders Rundgren
On 2013-04-01 23:46, Brian Smith wrote:
> See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524664 (bug 524664) and
> See 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto/generateCRMFRequest
> 
> My understanding is that  is supposed to replace 
> window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest.
> 
> I have no idea how common window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest is. Is it 
> obsolete?

The entire certificate system (including soft token storage) is obsolete. All 
big consumer-PKIs
are deploying their own counterparts since ages ago.

Now with mobile devices with embedded security hardware like in most high-end
Android phones, there's a ocean-wide gap between the browser and platform.

> Should it be removed? Does anybody have a link to a site that is using it for 
> its intended purpose?

You cannot remove until there is an established replacement that matches the
legitimate requirements people have on on-line certificate enrollment.

Anders

> If it is obsolete, I would like to remove it ASAP.
> 
> More generally, I would like to remove all the Mozilla-proprietary methods 
> and properties from window.crypto; i.e. all the ones 
> athttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto. Some of them 
> are actually pretty problematic. Are there any worth keeping?
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
> 

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Re: Removal of generateCRMFRequest

2013-04-01 Thread Robert Relyea

On 04/01/2013 02:46 PM, Brian Smith wrote:

See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524664 (bug 524664) and
See 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto/generateCRMFRequest

My understanding is that  is supposed to replace 
window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest.
So keygen was first, window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest() was made to fix 
some issues (and get some features like key-recovery). The new effort in 
 I think was meant to address those issues.


I have no idea how common window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest is. Is it obsolete? 
Should it be removed? Does anybody have a link to a site that is using it for 
its intended purpose?

If it is obsolete, I would like to remove it ASAP.
I'm pretty sure it's still used by produces like this one: 
http://pki.fedoraproject.org/wiki/PKI_Main_Page


I don't think you can remove it for a while. Server deployments lag 
client features by quite a few years. Servers don't implement new 
features supplied in clients until they are release. This type of 
feature isn't quite like a normal html feature, where you can update a 
.hmtl file or a content manager macro. These tags are usually tied more 
closely to the servers that use them.


More generally, I would like to remove all the Mozilla-proprietary methods and 
properties from window.crypto; i.e. all the ones 
athttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto. Some of them are 
actually pretty problematic. Are there any worth keeping?


I'd say you probably can't do that wholesale, but you probably can 
review and cull this list, particularly if there are good replacements.


Thanks,
Brian



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Re: Removal of generateCRMFRequest

2013-04-01 Thread Jonas Sicking
I know nothing about these APIs. Other than that some minimal version
of  is in the HTML5 spec.

/ Jonas

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Brian Smith  wrote:
> See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524664 (bug 524664) and
> See 
> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto/generateCRMFRequest
>
> My understanding is that  is supposed to replace 
> window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest.
>
> I have no idea how common window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest is. Is it 
> obsolete? Should it be removed? Does anybody have a link to a site that is 
> using it for its intended purpose?
>
> If it is obsolete, I would like to remove it ASAP.
>
> More generally, I would like to remove all the Mozilla-proprietary methods 
> and properties from window.crypto; i.e. all the ones 
> athttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto. Some of them 
> are actually pretty problematic. Are there any worth keeping?
>
> Thanks,
> Brian
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Removal of generateCRMFRequest

2013-04-01 Thread Brian Smith
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=524664 (bug 524664) and
See 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto/generateCRMFRequest

My understanding is that  is supposed to replace 
window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest.

I have no idea how common window.crypto.generateCRMFRequest is. Is it obsolete? 
Should it be removed? Does anybody have a link to a site that is using it for 
its intended purpose?

If it is obsolete, I would like to remove it ASAP.

More generally, I would like to remove all the Mozilla-proprietary methods and 
properties from window.crypto; i.e. all the ones 
athttps://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript_crypto. Some of them are 
actually pretty problematic. Are there any worth keeping?

Thanks,
Brian
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