Re: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-11 Thread Stefan Cars

I agree to this! If we should change the behavior I think we should add
new fields to not break compatibility!

/ Stefan


On Wed, 10 Apr 2002, Steve Rapaport wrote:

> 
> >Or should I have new fields and deprecate these ones ? (like flash)
> 
> That sounds like the best idea.  The new field name (whatever you choose)
> could be compatible with the DCS spec, the old one gets deprecated...
> 
> -steve
> 





Re: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Stipe Tolj

Bruno David Simões Rodrigues wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 11:53, Stipe Tolj wrote:
> > Bruno Rodrigues wrote:
> > >
> > > What do you think ?
> >
> > +0 from me.
> 
> I guess I should RTFM ;)
> 
> Clarify to us(me) what means the +0. (and other values)

basically I have taken this from the Apache developer's mailing list.
Where votes go like this:

+1 = yeah, I like that, please go on
+0 = hmmm, sound's reasonable, but I'm not into deep with that
0 = no opinion
-0 = don't know exactly, but something is not the way it should be
here
-1 = I definitly dis-agree, because of foo bar.


This way we can vote on certain issues more effectively on the list
and all participating parties don't have to real long prologs about
pros and cons of certain proposals.

Stipe

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Re: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Steve Rapaport


>Or should I have new fields and deprecate these ones ? (like flash)

That sounds like the best idea.  The new field name (whatever you choose)
could be compatible with the DCS spec, the old one gets deprecated...

-steve




RE: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Bruno David Simões Rodrigues

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 12:49, Andreas Fink wrote:
> >On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 09:16, Oded Arbel wrote:
> >>  Me like :-)
> >>
> >>  what this about coding ? I thought this is how it works now ? to send
> >>  unicode, I send coding=3.
> >
> >I meant coding=0 7bits, coding=1 8bits coding=2 ucs2 to match the dcs
> >specs
> 
> I would prefer
> 
> coding=0 or missing means autodetect
> coding=1  7 bit
> coding=2  8 bit
> coding=3  UCS2
> 
> that makes the interfaces consistent with olther releases.
> otherwhise lots of people have to change their applications and in 
> kannel-kannel interworking you end up with a version incompatibility.

Because unfortunatly the patches I've done doesn't make any sense now.

"If you want a message class 0, set &mclass=1" :

And we need to be able to set '0' values on cgi fields, like pid=0.

The interface have to be broken someday to fix this, and I was only
asking when should it be. between 1.1.6 and 1.2 ? or from 1.3 to 
2.0 ?

Or should I have new fields and deprecate these ones ? (like flash)


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RE: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Andreas Fink

>On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 09:16, Oded Arbel wrote:
>>  Me like :-)
>>
>>  what this about coding ? I thought this is how it works now ? to send
>>  unicode, I send coding=3.
>
>I meant coding=0 7bits, coding=1 8bits coding=2 ucs2 to match the dcs
>specs

I would prefer

coding=0 or missing means autodetect
coding=1  7 bit
coding=2  8 bit
coding=3  UCS2

that makes the interfaces consistent with olther releases.
otherwhise lots of people have to change their applications and in 
kannel-kannel interworking you end up with a version incompatibility.



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Re: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Bruno David Simões Rodrigues

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 11:53, Stipe Tolj wrote:
> Bruno Rodrigues wrote:
> > 
> > What do you think ?
> 
> +0 from me.

I guess I should RTFM ;)

Clarify to us(me) what means the +0. (and other values)


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RE: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Bruno David Simões Rodrigues

On Wed, 2002-04-10 at 09:16, Oded Arbel wrote:
> Me like :-)
> 
> what this about coding ? I thought this is how it works now ? to send
> unicode, I send coding=3.

I meant coding=0 7bits, coding=1 8bits coding=2 ucs2 to match the dcs
specs


> 
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> invariably exhibits
> personal rudeness. Bad manners. Loss of consideration for others in
> minor matters. A loss
> of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot." 
>   -- Friday's boss 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bruno Rodrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour
> > 
> > 
> > To enable smsbox to accept '0' values in cgi fields, the 
> > interface should
> > change
> > and the behaviour will be broken, but I think this should be 
> > done before we
> > launch
> > the new stable version (1.2).
> > 
> > May I change the code and documentation now ?
> > 
> > What will be changed is :
> > 
> > mclass: instead of 0-4, will be 0-3 and -1 or not present for default
> > 
> > pid: 0 really means 0 and -1 or not present means not present in pdu
> > 
> > coding: 0-3 means 7bit, 8bit or ucs2 and -1 or not present 
> > means default
> > behaviour of kannel defining it with udh presence
> > 
> > compress: 0,1 forces no-compression (or decompression) or compression,
> > and -1 means whatever (I haven't yet done the code to compression)
> > 
> > validity: 0 means error (kannel can't send a message that 
> > already expired)
> > and
> > -1/not defined means smsc defaults
> > 
> > deferred: 0 means now, -1 or not defined means now too ;) (or 
> > when kannel
> > wants to send it?)
> > 
> > alt-dcs: 0 means 0x0*, 1 means 0xF*, -1 means let kannel do 
> > what it wants
> > 
> > So, it's only cgi fields introduced in 1.1.5++ versions.
> > 
> > What do you think ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 






Re: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-10 Thread Stipe Tolj

Bruno Rodrigues wrote:
> 
> What do you think ?

+0 from me.

Stipe

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RE: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-09 Thread Oded Arbel

Me like :-)

what this about coding ? I thought this is how it works now ? to send
unicode, I send coding=3.

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m-Wise Inc.
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invariably exhibits
personal rudeness. Bad manners. Loss of consideration for others in
minor matters. A loss
of politeness, of gentle manners, is more significant than is a riot." 
-- Friday's boss 


> -Original Message-
> From: Bruno Rodrigues [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 11:19 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour
> 
> 
> To enable smsbox to accept '0' values in cgi fields, the 
> interface should
> change
> and the behaviour will be broken, but I think this should be 
> done before we
> launch
> the new stable version (1.2).
> 
> May I change the code and documentation now ?
> 
> What will be changed is :
> 
> mclass: instead of 0-4, will be 0-3 and -1 or not present for default
> 
> pid: 0 really means 0 and -1 or not present means not present in pdu
> 
> coding: 0-3 means 7bit, 8bit or ucs2 and -1 or not present 
> means default
> behaviour of kannel defining it with udh presence
> 
> compress: 0,1 forces no-compression (or decompression) or compression,
> and -1 means whatever (I haven't yet done the code to compression)
> 
> validity: 0 means error (kannel can't send a message that 
> already expired)
> and
> -1/not defined means smsc defaults
> 
> deferred: 0 means now, -1 or not defined means now too ;) (or 
> when kannel
> wants to send it?)
> 
> alt-dcs: 0 means 0x0*, 1 means 0xF*, -1 means let kannel do 
> what it wants
> 
> So, it's only cgi fields introduced in 1.1.5++ versions.
> 
> What do you think ?
> 
> 
> 




[RFC] cgi value = 0 behaviour

2002-04-09 Thread Bruno Rodrigues

To enable smsbox to accept '0' values in cgi fields, the interface should
change
and the behaviour will be broken, but I think this should be done before we
launch
the new stable version (1.2).

May I change the code and documentation now ?

What will be changed is :

mclass: instead of 0-4, will be 0-3 and -1 or not present for default

pid: 0 really means 0 and -1 or not present means not present in pdu

coding: 0-3 means 7bit, 8bit or ucs2 and -1 or not present means default
behaviour of kannel defining it with udh presence

compress: 0,1 forces no-compression (or decompression) or compression,
and -1 means whatever (I haven't yet done the code to compression)

validity: 0 means error (kannel can't send a message that already expired)
and
-1/not defined means smsc defaults

deferred: 0 means now, -1 or not defined means now too ;) (or when kannel
wants to send it?)

alt-dcs: 0 means 0x0*, 1 means 0xF*, -1 means let kannel do what it wants

So, it's only cgi fields introduced in 1.1.5++ versions.

What do you think ?